A Random Walk of Thoughts

A Random Walk of Thoughts

It amazes me how ideas generate new ideas in our minds randomly. I am sharing the walk of ideas as they happened in my mind. It amazes me the way one idea invites for another idea unexpectedly, without prior planning or intention. Is this chaotic birth of ideas worthy? I leave the answer for the readers.

The seed idea started from a comment by Bill King on my previous buzz β€œThe Iceberg Leader”. In his comment Bill wrote β€œWhen mentioning waves with information I can't help to wonder about refraction, much like the image of a pencil in a glass of water or sound when it interacts at an interface. When information is transmitted thru the glass on our screens is it refracted and maybe changed to a different wave form causing a change in how the information vibrates?” Somehow, he reminded me how rainbow form. They form by reflection, refraction and dispersion when a ray of light interacts with a water droplet suspended in the atmosphere. First the ray of light enters the droplet being refracted;
Secondly, once inside the droplet, the ray interacts with the interface water/air at the back of the droplet and is reflected. This leads to the separation of the white light to its individual colors. We see the magical rainbow as a result.

So, the separation of the white light results in seeing a rainbow. Immediately, the question that popped in my mind: can separation be good? Separation isn’t evil always; in contrary, it could lead us to see the rainbow of separation that isn’t possible in the white light of union? One real example is the separation of a wife and husband. This separation is meant as a self- review so that the couple may inspect their behaviors in calm and without the daily conflicts. Mostly, separation ends in divorce. Is it because separation resulted in partners seeing β€œthe rainbow of separation”? Do rainbows, which we consider examples of beauty, have a dirty face?

Unfortunately, the answer to the question is yes. I thought of rainbows forming in some peoples’ eyes. On the surface they look great. Beneath, they reveal eye problems. Seeing rainbows or halos around light indicates a problem with how light is filtering into the eye. Light is made up of differentΒ colors, but the rays are normally focused on a single point, so you can't distinguish them. I call this observation β€œThe situational beauty”, in emulation of β€œthe situational leadership”.

Not all separations are equal and not all separations should be done similarly. The separation of wife and husband is unlike the separation of part of a country to form a new country. However; the question that overwhelmed me is whether we should rethink the separation strategies. We separate mixtures using different methods such as filtration, evaporation, distillation, reverse osmotic pressure and a host of other techniques. The selected separation depends on the type of the mixture components that we have. owe must reconsider how to separate wife and husband so that this separation as a β€œcooling time” for both parties. Maybe we need to think and come up with new and more effective separation methodologies so that separation results in reunion rather than divorce. I am sure some of the readers will have their thoughts to share on this issue.

It deserves deep thinking on how to turn marriage separations into a purifying separation so that couples may reunite
Ali Anani

The separation of mixtures led me to think of oil and milk that don’t mix. More, it made me ponder on not mixing work and fun. Are still work and fun immiscible? Whey are then calls for mixing business and leisure (bleisure). It is amazing how we reverse our thinking on long-standing beliefs. Why then we opposed this mix for long times?

Mixed marriages are a mix that may work wonderfully, or it could lead to divorce. How to make the mix homogeneous and not volatile to the heat of differences in habit and traditions? Wind carries seed of plants to foreign lands and they pollinate with foreign seeds. The product is a healthy plant. Why then marrying the foreign seeds fail in marriages? Can we learn from the success of the β€œseeds marriages”?

Quite often marrying a cleaning agent with another cleaning agent results is disastrous damages. Each cleaner is safe on its own; together they are mostly not. Likewise; mixing two good people might be hazardous sometimes and may lead to explosions.

I reflected in this buzz honestly how thoughts walked randomly in my head.


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John Rylance

John Rylance

2 years ago #83

#95
Secondly in the UK estate agents are notorious for Photoshopping property. Like editing out a tree that spoils the look of a property. Thirdly do we ever get a true picture of a property real estate or otherwise. Off now to find another walk to embark on.

John Rylance

John Rylance

2 years ago #82

#95
Your comment and Ben's started this walk of thoughts. Firstly is there such a thing as unreal estate, if so is that why you need a photo editing service to turn the look of your estate into a saleable one.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#94
As high-quality photos and awesome as your comment is.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#92
Your comment dear Savvy Raj "emits the strength" of your poetic soul. A wonderful comment that made my day joyful.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

2 years ago #79

Between the divine condition which is what we normally associate with love and the human condition which is the soil in which love actually grows we find the paradox of love, that love which becomes tethered and free from its conditioning. What Lisa Vanderburg mentions in her comments is the soil that of course conditions and lays down the identity of love as that which we have personally experienced. In that identity is shaped memories of extreme conditions, but extreme conditions is not a paradox, it is brutal and blunt force accumulation of memories and experiences. Extreme love is breaking free of condition not the condition itself. This is the actual paradox of what is probably beyond the reach of us as a population of people who treat the pain of love no different to the stubbing of our big toe, we jump around in what we perceive as unbearable pain, hopping as the momentary stubbing of our toe eases its physical pain - but that pain is a nonsense compared to the birthing pain involved in the paradox of love - that stripping away the heaviness and brutality of a conditioned existence and the hate, fear and evil that may also be a part of that condition, we may not have realized ourselves just how closer we have got personally to agape love. People may wax philosophically about divine conditions while they cannot even handle the painful reality of a stubbed toe, yet very few of us can reach the depths that Lisa has accepted and in that she has broken through several layers of the human condition, without which she could not love her husband the way she does today. In the Eastern tradition we may talk Nirvana but we also recognize Kaljug in the Western tradition there is this idea of being "born again" - but what is a rebirth if it is not extreme love - the paradox is in this birthing. Recognize the light in the darkness is the light we let in - and light itself can be unbearable.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

2 years ago #78

Between the divine condition which is what we normally associate with love and the human condition which is the soil in which love actually grows we find the paradox of love, that love which becomes tethered and free from its conditioning. What Lisa Vanderburg mentions in her comments is the soil that of course conditions and lays down the identity of love as that which we have personally experienced. In that identity is shaped memories of extreme conditions, but extreme conditions is not a paradox, it is brutal and blunt force accumulation of memories and experiences. Extreme love is breaking free of condition not the condition itself. This is the actual paradox of what is probably beyond the reach of us as a population of people who treat the pain of love no different to the stubbing of our big toe, we jump around in what we perceive as unbearable pain, hopping as the momentary stubbing of our toe eases its physical pain - but that pain is a nonsense compared to the birthing pain involved in the paradox of love - that stripping away the heaviness and brutality of a conditioned existence and the hate, fear and evil that may also be a part of that condition, we may not have realized ourselves just how closer we have got personally to agape love. That isuse while many conditions remain and people wax philosophically about divine conditions while they cannot even handle the painful reality of a stubbed toe, very few of us can reach the depths that Lisa has accepted and in that she has broken through several layers of the human condition, without which she could not love her husband the way she does today. In the Eastern tradition we may talk Nirvana but we also recognize Kaljug in the Western tradition there is this idea of being "born again" - but what is a rebirth if it is not extreme love - the paradox is in this birthing.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#88
Thank you my friend Jerry Fletcher the idea of the post just reshuffled all my plans and I started writing the buzz. It is a random walk, I feel sometimes.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#78
`"Together alone"! You may consider copyrighting this term my friend

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

This buzz has been shared by @Magdalena-Maria GROSU on LinkedIn for discussion under the Social Capital Group. If interested, the link is: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4972340/4972340-6408488366500773891

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#84
Indeed, and mixed marriages must adapt to uncontrollable external factors as you highlighted in your comment Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador. Thank you for commenting and sharing the buzz.

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

Couples must be strong to survive marriage and perhaps, even stronger if it is a mixed marriage. So many outside factors can cause disharmony and stress that it is overwhelming. IMO, marriage is a duo working toward the same cause. Outstanding post, Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, and outstanding comments, as well.

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #72

#82
I have followed her for some time and that of NLV. Now just need to get schedules synchronized with her events to actually participate.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#81
Interesting idea and I saw that Sarah Elkins?

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #70

#78
http://elkinsconsulting.com/no-longer-virtual #nlv for some good insights.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#79
"birthed in randomness"- what a lovely expression dear Savvy Raj! Something to remember for long times. Thank you deeply.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#74
Thank you and I appreciate your sharing the buzz my friend.

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#75
so agree to that, that reminds me of alchemy!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#73
Amazingly as I have just shared and commented on your lovely buzz . The term "bleisure" is a mix of business (b) and leisure. It is known. What is interesting for me that by mixing two different things how nice sometimes the output is.

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

practice 'bleisure': learn and enjoy!

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

I love the term 'bleisure' Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee thank you for opening the door to your mind!

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

3 years ago #63

#71
absolutely...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#70
Now I know your source of wisdom dear David. Your mother

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

3 years ago #61

#69
To your words "...if melting in one soul is that good...", I have asked my mother the very same thing. She said: "Even the sadness I have now, I do not let in oblivion that the best and happiest 47 years of my life happened to be with your father. Should I have renuced to those years because of the future possibilty of being sad afterwards? Are you nuts?"

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#68
You wrote "..., even after our partner has passed away, like in my mother's case. She is still comforted by the memories of her relationship with my father". Same with my mother, who is now almost 90 years old. She spends 50% of her time at least remembering my father. Sometimes I ask myself if melting in one soul is that good. Because when one "soul" passes away, the other soul live a lonely life no matter how hard we try to move them out of a situation. Long gone are the days that we may find parents like yours and mine my friend.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

3 years ago #59

#67
It will take some time to publish in english, as I am writing it in Spanish...but planning to do it in english too. I might share some of its content here... Completely agreed about the self-interest trend. As we say in spain, was it first the chicken or the egg? Did mobiles made us selfish, or we did mobiles because we are selfish? The center of pleasure of our brain is always looking for stimulae sources. Lately, we have chosen having the effortless sources selfishness can provide, despite its effects are short term and milder, rather than struggling ourselves in a long term altruistic relationship, which takes a big effort, with no guarantees of reward in the short term, few possibilities of success, but much powerful and lasting effects, even after our partner has passed away, like in my mother's case. She is still conforted by the memories of her relationship with my father. We are choosing "fake" short term happiness rather than authentic long term one. As I always say: humans, crazy we are

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#66
Dear David, I hope your book is almost finished. I am happy for you and I have no doubt it shall be rocking. I agree with you. The technical disruption is disrupting social life. We visited last week a family with whom we have had good relations for long times. Honestly, we hardly talked. The husband was on his mobile phone watching the news. His wife was busy with he mobile phone reviewing the latest fashions. For brief periods they would interrupt the silence alerting us important news or an attractive new fashion. My wife and I got bored. We understood that the couple hardly talk being on the internet for long times racing their individual interests. It is the break of communication and diverging with different interests. The trend is towards more self-interests. No wonder the attitude of my interests and not our interest is increasing resulting in separation even if two people still share same house. It is no more a home.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

3 years ago #57

#65
Dear Ali, I have missed you too. Work increased responsibilities and my book has kept me away from the always refreshing hives of Bebee. It is curious that our minds seem to be in a permanent and recurrent loop about some issues. Exactly a year ago we have been talking about marriage issues here: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@david-navarro-lopez/my-love-you-re-perfect-as-you-are-i-m-gonna-change-you Stressing conditions around the marriage as you describe have always been there, just in other forms. The generation of my parents lived a post-civil war era, and 40 years dictatorship which led us to stone age socially and economically. Despite all that, they had one thing clear which it seems we have forgotten nowadays. A marriage is an issue of "us". Not "I and you" Selfishness is the poison we need to get rid of when it comes to looking for a successful marriage. More of it can be found in the mentioned post.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#63
Dear David Navarro L\u00f3pez- you explained in part why marriages fail. In an Arab country the number of divorces exceeded the number of marriages. There are other factors in addition to the ones you suggested. Arranged marriages last longer in our part of the world. I believe this is because the parents due their kids better than they did. A second reason is the rapid changes reflecting on us. A wife and husband might be very compatible today, but soon they start to diverge their interests and paths so the extent that they can't bridge their differences anymore. A third reason is that people are stressed and edgy. Their stress make them edgy and impatient. The financial demand in particular are very stressful. A fourth reason is that the cost of marriages has become prohibitive. In our part of the world many marriages fell because of the financial burden on the married couple to celebrate their weddings. The result is starting life with heavy debts. Soon, the couple divorce. Your reasoning is strong and I just added my thoughts my friend.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#62
First, I missed you terribly lately my friend David Navarro L\u00f3pez and so I am delighted to see you back. Your explanation resonates with me and I fully agree with you. Strained mind are far from creativity.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

3 years ago #54

About marriage separations, and the probability of a reunion after "cooling down".... In my opinion, when a separation happens it can well be due to the fact that the marriage happened too soon before both parts had the time to know each other and see if the mixture would fit. Dear Ali, you come from a generation on which couples had a long engagement time prior marriage, and thus, the percentage of long-lasting successful marriages were overwhelmingly superior compared to nowadays. Preventing is better than to cure. To give a longer time to engagement would avoid painful times to the couple. To pretend to make a separation with the objective of possibly, get a later reunion, is a worse solution to it because in the meantime some wounds might have happened which cannot be healed again. But we live in a "hurries world". If our life and our future happiness are what we are talking about, maybe a little less of a hurry, more patience, would be the wise thing to do.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

3 years ago #53

To your questions "Are still work and fun immiscible? ...Why then we opposed this mix for long times?" I would say that leadership is evolving due to the fact that "dictatorial leadership" is been proven to be ineffective in the long term, and many times, in the medium and short term too. A brain can be creative and work a long time with good results only if it is having fun. Otherwise, it gets boring quickly and misses focusing. The permanent thread or fear from your boss is not going to keep you giving the most of you at work. Having fun with it, most probably.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#60
This is a miraculous comment dear Debasish Majumder. Miraculous because of its philosophical depth and because of your writing "like minute creatures can float". Why> because I have just responded to a lovely comment by @Lisa Morganweck on LinkedIn. In her comment Lisa wrote about floating some seeds float too far from their intended habitat and become invasive to an environment elsewhere. The same with thoughts and emotions. We must be conscious of what we allow to take root and tend to the positives with great care. Goodness - I could go on and on now that you have triggered these connections for me!". Now, my mind is sinking in deep waters trying to combine your comment with Lisa's comment. Believe me so many ideas are pouring in and I need some calm period to see their links. You heard about ants that craft making raft so as to float and not sink in the deep waters.This is why I am trying- making a raft of the so many ideas such as yours to keep floating. May be you can help me craft making the raft. Thank you so much for commenting again my friend and express your enjoyable thoughts.

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

3 years ago #51

#17
sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, i am observing how your sublime idea, though claiming to be random, but surely having immense magnitude, soaring high, inducing many to fuel with rich ideas, so that you may grow in lustrous style of your own. being a nerd, utterly incompetent in terms of the gravity of the content, only observing in dark that how delightfully you glow with a long blazing tail! randomly moving molecules in high temperature of a certain volume of water is equally delightful to watch, not knowing which molecule will depart first as water vapor! on contrary, if nature may design differently like that of the sea close to Jordan that out of salt we like minute creatures can float, not exactly knowing the impact of salt beneath us how intriguingly working! Great share truly sir!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#57
I frequently make the same mistakes and especially when I have to use the mobile phone. I understand and your typos are hidden in the pile of your roses. The sweet smell of your words make typos irrelevant Joel Anderson

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
My friend Joel Anderson- just for you to write such a rich comment with its deep philosophy shows that your life has been worthy for you and for people who read you. Your comment is a piece of music and I just enjoy it as it is. Every word in it resonates with me. Believe me that these discussions make me feel as if we have been together for long times. No question I shall quote this comment frequently. You are the order that emerged in the disorder in my life. Sometimes, it is better not to know what the future hides. Like a person ill with deadly disease he doesn't know when he shall pass away; this keeps some hope in his life. you keep a great hope in my life. Thank you

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #48

Ok, so this is one of those days where I should just shut up. I fear my typos induced by bouncing back and forth do not do justice to your article and/or the discussions. To all I apologize for not taking the time to check my typing before responding.. I am navigating the edges of chaos with multiple distractions and meetings. :)

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #47

#51
Thank you for your kind words Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee This whole thread has caused me to ruminate on it since reading it and commenting in between distractions. Through a simple reflection on randomness just look at what you have started. As I was walking back from an impromptu meeting, I thought about your comment on chaos. I am not a scholar on the subject but I do find it an intriguing subject. The inputs and outputs that affect our collective nearing the "edge of chaos." One may opine that we are never totally there. Others may simply view it as a constant journey of "ebb and flow" where we find ourselves just navigating the fringes--sometimes close, sometimes from afar. We try to forecast yet don't know what truly lies in the future. We can only assess and conjecture what the true potentials may be. We would love to say with absolute certainty and assurance that we know what our future holds for us. When in reality we can never be sure of what random "Black Swans" may introduce themselves, and what their consequences may be. The order or disorder of chaos allows me to be an active participate in the world as I know it. And maybe as a butterfly flapping its wings in the Flint Hills of Kansas, I exists in the here and now of my present moment. Despite having my calendar to remind me of things to come in a quasi ordered fashion, I find my simply as a traveler navigating my journey to a "New Now" with what may be a naive belief that "everything's gonna be alright" (good, bad or otherwise). Keep making a difference.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#54
Having read your two books and namely The 90-Seconds Mind Manager I must say I expected this great response from you. I meant it to tease you with my question because I know your juice will pour out with its sweetness. This is exactly what you did my friend. I have just watched and commented on your video. The more I read you and listen to you, the more admiration I have for you. Thank you for taking the time to enrich the discussions here. With only +400 views so far we have reached 55 comments and your comments stand high among them.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#47
I want first to tag Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris. I discussed the idea of mixing in the buzz. SO, mixing Zacharias' idea with mine would open new horizons. I shall ponder on this awesome idea and I hope our friend Zacharias will have a word to say.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
I am thriving at your comment and wisdom Joel Anderson. Reading this overwhelms me I simply choose not to look at the Lines in the Sand of my life through a rigid linear lens". You are so right. The word lens reminds me of the lenses of spectacles. Just by slightly rearranging them by putting one on top of the other rather than besides it led to the invention of the microscope. This is the beauty of chaos because a small and affordable changes may lead to unthinkable creative ideas. I love your comment.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #43

#43
Grace. Awesome thoughts.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #42

#47
You made me consider the two possibilities of our lives are controlled by our own thought or there is something bigger at work that we think within. If the former is true then we have a very long way to go in humanity. If the latter is true then must only understand the world we live in, not recreate it. I don't believe given any amount of time and brains we can ever reach perfection. But we can find perfection in exploring the adversarial nature of our existence.

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #41

And there you go, Trying to type in between distractions and random typos somehow find their way into my responses. Hmmm.

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #40

#40
As Harvey indicates, as a result of hour our brains work and maybe even an overwhelming fixation to stay on a given path, we have an adversarial approach to wisdom where our brains allow us to bin things in very prescribed ways. I simply choose not to look at the Lines in the Sand of my life through a rigid linear lens. Rather, I choose to embrace the order and randomness in my life with a desire to learn and grow from each experience and the things that influence me and not get pigeon holed or hackneyed along the journey. Not sure if this does any of the conversations justice, but oh how your post and the ensuring comments have made me think. Wouldn't it be grand if we could take a hybrid of your post and Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris thoughts on the same subject and create a blended discussion. A discussion that ultimately could contribute to taking the Daring Footsteps to change our perspective, and maybe in doing so make a difference in a world needing difference making. Ultimately, it is not a one way or another proposition, rather it is the combination of it all that makes the journey such an interesting experience Random or structured as that may be.

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #39

#40
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee We all have a propensity to want the comfort of order in a world where change and deviation from the known creates an uneasiness in our desire for and pension to keep things simple and nicely arranged. A challenge with that is evidenced in the world we see unfolding before us, where mindsets, opinions, perspectives become firmly entrenched and unmovable. We glom on to things, and then have this flawed approach to entrenching us to unassailable change and thought that could help us deviate from the status quo. It seems like the fear of the different, the unknown and the random will only create untoward chaos if we dont "box" things up in a straight linear, and maybe mathematical, approach to the world as we know it. We avoid or attack different perspectives, differe orientations in an effort to take us out of our comfort zones and minimize the random perturbations we may experience or that influence our journey. For me, the steps that i take and the contemplation's that I undertake cause me to reflect on my day to day existence and my approach to life in a way that I can only hope helps me to embrace the structured, unstructured, ordinal, linear, non-linear and randomness behind it all.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#43
Dear Edward- first, I want to again borrow a line from your previous comment "By recollecting memories we change and dilute them". Now, in this superb comment you say "In the case of a married couple separating, absence doesn't make the heart grow fonder because they are separating on bad terms and the negative emotions carry over with them". My question here is separation may lead to collecting memories and diluting them. Why such an effect doesn't happen as the bad memories of separated couples mount up? I am just trying to understand. I loved your creativity in dealing with the woman issue by pretending to love him. The purpose is great and the effect is obvious as the one changed her heart. But, how ethical is it to pretend? I am asking because I expect somebody to ask this question. I believe it is ethical because it has a grand purpose- saving a marriage. I am eager to hear your thoughts.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#42
Dear Edward Lewellen will thrive on your comment as I did. "By recollecting memories we change and dilute them"- very interesting.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#39
Joanne Swecker commented on the shared buzz on LI by writing "Thank you @Ali Anani, PhD a gracious response. Consider, we need a fresh perspective, in that we can never be separated from anyone we've met. A vibrational merging has taken place and we're expecting some action to make the impossible happen. The negative emotions being experienced are evidence of our misalignment. In getting back into "alignment" with yourself, automatically thoughts, perspective about being physically together or not, will shift. It is possible to be happy now as its not independent from you, it is. Thank you again. A key point in her response is misalignment. I believe one main reason for this is what you wrote here Harvey Lloyd "Random sometimes is not random it is merely us learning for the next phase". It is about time to change our perspective.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#38
Would love to read the response of Joel Anderson

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #34

#36
The educational mindset is that all things have to be square and understood before we take the path. This tends to set aside our creative right brain instincts that need to be honed. Randomness is the teacher of abstract thought, pitting the right and left brain against one another. This process is what joins our two halves into a very wise perspective. Not only do we live in a a time of adversarial wisdom but our brains are designed for that battlefield. Random sometimes is not random it is merely us learning for the next phase.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #33

#34
For me at least a journey down random paths exposes a different perspective of other paths. There is huge difference from looking at the center of town through binoculars and standing there with a refreshing brew. Moving ones thoughts down a path is not an adventure into itself, it is also a rehabilitative process of viewing our own thoughts from a different perspective. Great thoughts and comments.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
Your comment Harvey Lloyd just moved my attention to a new topic. I hope to share my new randomness in next buzz.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#34
Joel Anderson here. I believe you highlight a great point that pass unnoticed. It is about accepting randomness instead of abhorring it. Accepting randomness opens our senses to see the interconnections, the repeating patterns and enhance our imagination and thinking to creative ideas. Instead of doing work against randomness wouldn't it be better if we worked with it? Our mindset needs to be right to follow the wisdom of your comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
I have just to find a better way to describe the process and value of iteration as you did Harvey Lloyd. You do understand the barnacle set on our social lives. Great comment

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #29

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Now this one got me thinking. As you know from previous interactions I have a propensity to excursion down multiple random paths and thoughts about a myriad of things. Things that on the "surface" often go unnoticed, but if one gives themselves a second to just observe and think about any given thing, oh how the randomness somehow becomes interconnected, and like a rainbow--beautiful indeed. Yes in the coupling of random things there is good, bad or indifferent. But there is something about taking the random paths along our journeys that enhance our collective understanding through the use of our senses (mind, body and soul). A journey where if we truly embrace the structured and randomness of it all, we just might be able to open our eyes to see, open our ears to hear and yes even open our minds to interpret alternative views, perspectives and realities. Just maybe, within the randomness of it all, we can gain a deeper appreciation for both the random and sometimes maybe the not-so-random things that make up the essence of the fractals in our lives. Well done.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #28

#31
"I believe this is an iterative process..." This is the process that we first become self aware. Excellent thought. Like a boat in the water we pick up barnacles on the hull. They start microscopically and grow into our design. Self awareness is the inspection of the barnacles and understanding are they real, needed or assisting us in our daily lives. Barnacles are not bad or good just the iterative process where we take on new information and store it according to the already stored barnacles. The issue, if we don't inspect the hull until each crisis we have a lot of emotional work to do. Often times if we become wise it only means we understand our barnacle set and its impact in our social lives.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#30
I must add that commenters of your quality make this possible. Thank you for the grand sharing of the buzz my friend.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#29
Thank you for responding with such great thoughts Harvey Lloyd. You summed many ideas beautifully in your comment. Yes, we may be alluded by refraction/reflections/dispersion to see things different than what they really are or, in different sizes. Knowing where a person stands is a basic need because only then he/she shall know where to go. I believe this is an iterative process because what we are tomorrow night be a slightly different version of who we are tomorrow. These differences can be small, but not their effect. Self-revision will enrich us, teach us and this this only possible by asking continually why. If not, your example "Marriage is probably a great view of how things, through poor self awareness, can be destructive is indicative of what awaits us then. I am still absorbing your comment. Its richness needs time to swallow and digest.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #25

The discussion around a salient question is often the bedrock of learning. This post takes this concept to new heights. Join the discussion.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #24

#25
Thanks for the tag and my slow response should reflect the deep question in which you ask. An observer can look existentially at a series of actions and outcomes and form a thought. Your question and that of @Bill King demonstrate a much deeper thought. Understanding our own footprint within that existential analyses. When we speak of reflection/refraction and other filters that bend or even change our perspective, we often over look the true contribution we make within the outcome. When we look at troubled marriages or other deeply emotional entanglements, we all contribute in small to large ways. The theory you are 6 people from knowing Kevin Baken works not only in familiarity but also in opinions/emotions that transfer. I have always sensed that it is more important to understand "why" you have your opinion before discussing the outcomes of existential realities. Peripeteia the turning point of understanding can not happen if we consistently launch from our own platform of understanding. Self Awareness makes us uncomfortable but helps us digest our own place within a setting. Marriage is probably a great view of how things, through poor self awareness, can be destructive. Can we truly ask our spouse to make us happy without considering our own footprint? If our spouse did everything we asked with intuition that is perfect would we then be happy? Caution exploring these questions will submit you to turning points you may not be ready:) @Bill King posted these wonderful thoughts around a video that is revealing: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@bill-king/80-imitation-20-innovation-a-pareto-s-green-forrest-strategy

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Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris was inspired by this post to share his own views on uncertainty and randomness. I encourage the readers of this buzz to read his buzz titled "Not-So-Random Walk Around the Topic of Randomness, with a Focus on Its Counterpart: Information" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@zacharias-voulgaris/not-so-random-walk-around-the-topic-of-randomness-with-a-focus-on-its-counterpart-information#c1 It is worthy of your reading time.

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The preceding comments encourage me to request Randall Burns for his valuable thoughts.

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Tausif Mundrawala- you are genuinely invited to share your valuable comments.

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Lisa Vanderburg- I believe your comments will be valuable and enrich the already enriched discussions here.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#10
Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris- you wrote in your comment "After all, a cell that multiplies organically in the human body, is a sign of growth, while a cell that multiplies randomly and uncontrollably is a sign of cancer". That kept me thinking. Quire incidentally, while searching info on dissipating structure I ran across this presentation: https://www.cusys.edu/ColemanInstitute/Boulder-material/posters/FieldsMelamede.ppt From Slide 2 of the presentation I copy and paste "An understanding of the nature of health and disease arises as a natural extension of physical phenomena and includes thermodynamic interpretations of the basic living processes of cell division, differentiation and death. Most disease states are caused by the wrong cells living or dyeing. Since the nervous system functions by connections and information transfer, inappropriate cell death has far reaching effects. The central question that we will exam is, to what extent can cognitive dysfunction be minimized or eliminated by using modern physical principles to control life’s creative processes". SO much to ponder on that I feel my mind is rotating like a chaotic wheel rotating clockwise then randomly anticlockwise and clockwise again

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#22
Very-well said Debesh Choudhury. Randomness might send us in different directions and may feel us losing the equilibrium of thinking and through us on the edge of chaos. It is then we are ready to self-organize by accepting thoughts from others and new ideas emerge. So, I am so happy with what you wrote " random thinking may unite us to more pure knowledge". .This is a form of self-organizing. Great thoughts my friend

Debesh Choudhury

Debesh Choudhury

3 years ago #17

Great thought Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee .. However random you tried to think, the ideas are quite constructive and worthy to think and discuss. In other words, random thinking may unite us to more pure knowledge.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#20
I love comments with a constructive tone of criticism that address the issue and not the author. So, as you stated Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris we learn by "rubbing" our thoughts with the purpose to learn. You are most welcome to write on the randomness topic and I truly look forward to reading it. It is such an interesting field that we need to explore it with enthusiasm and open mindedness. Please tag me when you publish.

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

#15
It's such a great pleasure to see people who take (constructive) criticism so well, instead of merely reacting to it :-) About this randomness buzz you mentioned, is this something you plan to do, or should I write it instead? I have some ideas on the B.E., but they would make up a buzz by themselves, esp. after I've recently created two videos describing it :-)

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#18
Thank you Proma \ud83d\udc1d Nautiyal-. I hope you would find the time to elaborate more on your comments here for they are worthy and provide new insights on a heavily-researched, but still foggy topic.

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

3 years ago #13

#13
True sir, I am in total agreement, and that's a wonderfully-stated insight by CityVP 🐝 Manjit. 

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
Thank you dear Debasish Majumder for your unending support by commenting and sharing my buzzes. You wrote "it is intriguing about the external conditions, whether heat, pressure and other factors, sometimes favorable to make a lovely combination and sometime a disastrous, and even sometimes maintain a unique balance by virtue of separation". This is interesting as I plan to write on this issue in my next buzz. So, I defer my detailed response for now. Whenever have a system far from equilibrium (such as high state of tension) this system becomes exposed to the input (matter and energy) from its environment. So, you are correct.

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

3 years ago #11

thought provoking insight indeed sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! i wonder, cornea of eyes, an organ of human body, without having blood vessels how getting its food? eyes, an important sense organ enable us to see beauty as well ugly sights, happening in and around us, making an indelible impact in our brain and often we visualize a scenario in absence of it like a camera. surprisingly, Kodak, a reputed organization almost went into oblivion owing to the dramatic change in device making technology. i guess, it is intriguing about the external conditions, whether heat, pressure and other factors, sometimes favorable to make a lovely combination and sometime a disastrous, and even sometimes maintain a unique balance by virtue of separation, whether it is in terms of power or authority. however, it is absolutely pertinent that reflections play a major role, whether to generate idea or to separate it. great buzz sir. enjoyed read and shared. thank you for the buzz.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#10
Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris- great and challenging your comment is. I borrowed the title from the random walk theory. It states "A random walk is a mathematical object, known as a stochastic or random process, that describes a path that consists of a succession of random steps on some mathematical space such as the integers (Wikipedia). However; what a random idea that affects ma might affect others and what affects me might affect the world (The butterfly effect). I might get upset by someone, lose my nerves and then drive angrily to cause harm by colliding with another car. A chain of events starts. So, yes, even though things happen randomly, they are the butterflies that lead to a series of effects. You mentioned that "a cell that multiplies organically in the human body, is a sign of growth, while a cell that multiplies randomly and uncontrollably is a sign of cancer". This is true. However; equally true is that if a heart pulsates in a very regular pattern it is a sign of unhealthiness. Healthy hearts have a degree of randomness. This is a topic that needs a buzz on its own. I like comments that stir my hind and your comment did this.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#9
Even though I tend more for using organic metaphors, your metaphor here Bill King is great and wonderful. To keep relationship health, we need to inspect them frequently because something might be eating up the relationship without noticing. Small things pile up and suddenly cause great damage. Not only marriages, but any kind of relations such as friendship, customer attachment to a company and you name it. Exactly as the recent story of ants bringing down a house in a village in India because the ants destroyed the foundation of the building and abruptly it fell. Therefore, I find tour metaphor here of great value and namely in carrying "Relationship maintenance" so that the friendship or marriage may collapse suddenly. Here, the maintenance of trust is hugely important and not assume it is there because the trust barometer fell down slightly. Trust is the foundation of relations and little problems may act like the ants eating the foundation. I greatly appreciate your wonderful mind, Bill

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#5
Proma \ud83d\udc1d Nautiyal #3 in which he wrote "We know that failure is the more dominant experience, so in terms of how things explode or even corrode - all these things are processes of birthing and not everything gets born..." We need separation to help us find new paths by calm thinking to new possibilities and not corrode our minds and freeze them from seeing a better future.

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#4
I am so glad that you highlighted this issue Renoy George. The issue of fear that makes separation fail. Yes, separation in marriages is meant to be a "calming" period, but fear makes it the opposite. You said the couple must have the courage to express their love to reunite, but fear stops them short of doing so. I may add also that fear reduces the grand purpose of reuniting that is larger than the ego of husband and wife to seeing only their pride and egoism. It is like a driver looking at the lanes from a short distance. What the driver shall see that the lines of the driving lane become unclear. If the driver moves the eyes to a longer distance in front of him/her he shall be able to see the lines separated and find the lane boundaries clear. In marriage separation mostly the couple see their own ego, fears and opinions and the lines of separation are mingled and confusing. The way out is to separate more and divorce.

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#3
This is a super comment CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. Yes, you are spot on by mentioning that strategic plans can stifle our minds. In complex world our best bit is to look for patterns as these our torches in the darkness. I find that strategic plans confine us, often within restricted boundaries, while the important issues are outside them. Patterns have their boundaries, but these are dynamic and flexible so our minds are moving with them. They allow for the process of birthing to shape to flow naturally. I am all the way with your comment.

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

If by random you mean unpredictable, then yes, these thoughts are random, just like the way you traverse them :-) However, in my experience there is no such thing as random in one's life. Random event, maybe, but everything that happens in us, has a purpose, even if that purpose is obscure often. The Union-Separation matter is a very interesting topic. Surely separation is not pleasant and it's oftentimes difficult, just like union is not always blissful. However, whether the former or the latter is good depends on the objective behind it. With the risk of appearing too mundane, here is a very down-to-earth example: separation of salt from sea water. If you plan to use the salt somewhere, or if this is one of the stages of cleansing of the water so that it can be used for irrigation, it is good. Otherwise, it's a futile endeavor. Mixing gasoline with certain efficiency booster substances may be good, if the engine of your car can handle it, otherwise, it can be detrimental to its health, not to mention dangerous when driving! So, if there is some intelligence behind union or separation, then it's fine. But if it is done randomly and without an objective in mind, it is bound to be problematic or worse. After all, a cell that multiplies organically in the human body, is a sign of growth, while a cell that multiplies randomly and uncontrollably is a sign of cancer.

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

3 years ago #4

Wonderful buzz, sir. I had never thought of these factors and their consequences in such detail. However, when it comes to separation in marriage, I believe the date of the marriage is decided when the couple (each on their own) decide to either get back together or part ways in search of a new life. If they indeed want to get back together, then they should focus on the reasons why they got married in the first place, or what made them like or rather love their partners. Judgement switched off, they should dwell in pure love for a while to help their heart understand why everything else is meaningless. All the fights and the need to be right. That could help couples get back together after a separation. Just a thought, though. :-)

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

3 years ago #3

Look at the way "initial luck" and "accident" shaped the success of the founder of Buzzfeed - the happenstance that we later celebrate as great leadership is our needs to create patterns from what can be more fortuitous aspects than a planned, controlled and "strategic" decisions. https://medium.com/matter/buzzfeeds-jonah-peretti-goes-long-e98cf13160e7 It is what associates itself with randomness and how those triggers find the virtual oil-well where mythology is the chief instrument society still uses to engage the storytelling of success. This storytelling often eliminates or rubs out what failed and did not work - so what gets presented is its own journey. We know that failure is the more dominant experience, so in terms of how things explode or even corrode - all these things are processes of birthing and not everything gets born - we can count our blessings that we are here to even be conscious of this very discussion.

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I agree, I have learned more here from beBee that my post graduate πŸŽ“ classes!πŸ‘πŸπŸπŸπŸ

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Bill King- you are mentioned in this buzz

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