Balanced Choices

Balanced Choices

Plants have so much to teach us. Companion plants set example of what a good company can be. Companion plants assist in the growth of others by attracting beneficial insects, repelling pests, or providing nutrients, shade, or support (Wikipedia). Companion plants tell us what a good company should be doing. Companies should extend support to their customers, employees and the community. I intended to focus this buzz on this issue, but then the recent buzz of Sara Jacobovici titled "The choice to be "in" balance" changed my course to another topic. Sara drove me to the extreme of excitement reading her buzz. In one of my comments on the buzz I wrote "Of special interest to me is also the quote of Roger Cole "Being stuck means there is no movement; we have stopped making choices. They only "way" to get us moving out of the stuck place is to choose to move".
Now, you bring a new issue dear Sara and I think this is the theme of my next buzz. The issue of plants for they don't move. Do they have choices? Are there choices in stillness? Do we move if we lose our senses? If so, are plants also senseless? If not, when can we have choices in stillness?
You provoke my mind again. I see the Ideas Natural Polymeric Chain forming up".

Answering these questions is a formidable task. However; luck knocks on the door twice sometimes. My search led me to a great article in The New Yorker titled "THE INTELLIGENT PLANT" by Michael Pollan, which helped me in my search to find answers to my questions. This is an illuminating article. I extract the following paragraph because it captured my attention.

"While talking with Mancuso, I kept thinking about words like β€œwill,” β€œchoice,” and β€œintention,” which he seemed to attribute to plants rather casually, almost as if they were acting consciously. At one point, he told me about the dodder vine, Cuscuta europaea, a parasitic white vine that winds itself around the stalk of another plant and sucks nourishment from it. A dodder vine will β€œchoose” among several potential hosts, assessing, by scent, which offers the best potential nourishment. Having selected a target, the vine then performs a kind of cost-benefit calculation before deciding exactly how many coils it should investβ€”the more nutrients in the victim, the more coils it deploys".

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In the above quote we have an example on how to choose your next movement wisely and profitably. This is an amazing observation. What added to my amusement is what I read in the same article "The bean plant is β€œlooking” for something to climb. Each spring, I witness the same process in my garden, in real time. I always assumed that the bean plants simply grow this way or that, until they eventually bump into something suitable to climb. But Mancuso’s video seems to show that this bean plant β€œknows” exactly where the metal pole is long before it makes contact with it. Mancuso speculates that the plant could be employing a form of echolocation. There is some evidence that plants make low clicking sounds as their cells elongate; it’s possible that they can sense the reflection of those sound waves bouncing off the metal pole". I asked in my previous buzzΒ "Going to the Extreme Effect",Β "Why then go to the extreme when we could create possibilities while staying in balance?" Sara Jacobovici responded to the question in her mentioned-buzz by writing "What came to mind in reading Dr. Ali’s buzz and question is the connection between movement and choice. When we β€œgo” to an extreme it is a reactive movement; our choices are restricted and where we place ourselves reflects that reaction".

Plants move while in balance only after they have "searched for" the optimal place to move to. I find myself asking if the "choice is to be in balance"? Or, is it a balanced choice to make a move? We decide on the choice before moving. We are restricted by our choices. Is this what keeps plants in balance?

I would love to hear your voice.


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I agree with you in this elaboration Tausif Mundrawala. Yes, we have the choice to select among the many choices that life opens for us only if we could see those opportunities as such. For me, every challenge and obstacle is a hidden opportunity.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Then you have a busy time ahead dear Sara Jacobovici. I know you shall retire soon for a day, but this is god for your busy mind.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #10

#6
You inspire me again Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I am interested in looking at this triad; β€œwill,” β€œchoice,” and β€œintention”.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#12
I a, extremely moved by your comment dear Harvey Lloyd, "No imperfection or perfection just a purity of existence"- this is a stunning part of your comment. I wish you read my mini-buzz on Defining our Definitions in view of your comment here. Did I answer your comment without realizing you were in the process of writing this comment as I was writing my buzz. SOmetimes I believe in souls speaking to each other. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/defining-our-definitions

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #8

I read this engagement with fascination as the posts have attempted to paint a picture of the two very large ecosystems of man and nature. Nature is a great teacher as it does not have the encumbering aspect of self awareness. This is my love of nature, the purity of existence while responding to physical changes or elements within itself. No imperfection or perfection just a purity of existence. Humans search for this purity but we live in a world where many search at the same time. Our self awareness/concept is the constant adjustment to everyone else's search. Plants do not see this adjustment in their existence as anything other than a part of life. They form no judgement. Human joy is in how we judge the adjustment within our search for objectivity. When we look at extremes is it really an attempt to find balance or an intent of judgement as we search for objectivity. If we could use the playground see-saw as our visual. I am standing in the middle and found my balance. But we cross paths with others within the play ground and they climb onto our see saw. There is now a period of balancing or instead of balance i am looking to throw the other off to regain my already established balance. Nature doesn't have a see-saw. When one path is blocked or challenged they go around without judgement, merely pursuing their coded objective. Yes Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee so much to learn from the natural order of nature. But difficult to execute with such perfection.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#10
It is amazing to read your comment siraj shaik just following the publishing of my new buzz "Defining our Definitions". You must be mind-reader my friend.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#8
I shall read your buzz again Savvy Raj with a new perspective this time. Thank you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
Thank you again Tausif Mundrawala. Do we make choices and then move or the other way round? For example, bees find candidate places for new hives. Then they select through waggle dancing one place and they move to it. If making choices comes first, then n a way we are also restricting our movement. Is there such a thing called free choice?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#2
Sara Jacobovici- your point of intent still occupies my mind. The link I mentioned in my previous comment is so rich and challenging that I recommend it for you strongly. May be then we get a new perspective. I am still pondering on same issue.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
Thank you dear@debasish for your support, good words and sharing.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#2
Sara Jacobovici- this is a quick response for now aas I have to leave for a meeting. In the quote of Michael Pollan in the buzz ""While talking with Mancuso, I kept thinking about words like β€œwill,” β€œchoice,” and β€œintention,” which he seemed to attribute to plants rather casually, almost as if they were acting consciously..." you may notice he used the word intention. I knew you would comment on intent and I shall be back. That is all for now.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #1

Great expansion to the discussion Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. The more questions come up, the greater the discussion. I have to say though that I continue to differentiate between choices made by plants, trees, and insects, which provide unlimited insight into how we work, and those choices made by humans. There are many validated studies which prove that plants can "sense" danger and avoid perceived threats. Still, intention is a human quality; and the difference is in the why. When we act solely in the who, what, where, when. and how, we limit our choices. We react or respond but we do not put any thought, any self-reflective thought, into the why. This is where I bring our sense of time into the discussion and speak of being able to pause, be in stillness (something you brought up in your questions Dr. Ali). We are still moving, we are not stuck, and we are able to practise intent, reflect on the why, and look at all our options. When we think we "can't afford" the time to do this, we actually end up losing more time as a result of reacting, to fear perhaps, rather than engaging in a thoughtful process and having more control of the potential outcome.

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