beBee is to Engage with Passionate Curiosity

beBee is to Engage with Passionate Curiosity

  • I wrote a comment addressed to Javier beBee that beBee is Engagement with Passionate Curiosity instead of Engagement with Passion. I find the reasoning would be of interest to many readers. Moreover, this buzz should serve as real example of the degree of engagement that beBee allows for as I base this buzz in response to comments and buzzes published on this platform.

    The Story First

    My previous buzz attracted about eighty engaging comments. The comments that provoked me to write this buzz are was the two comments of Sara JacoboviciΒ and Franci Eugenia Hoffman. Franci wrote a comment that inspired Sara to formulate the following equation:

    KNOWING + DOING = ACTION/MOVEMENT

    If we lack knowledge or action there shall be no movement. For this reason, I suggested to Sara to change the equation to:

    KNOWING X DOING = ACTION/MOVEMENT

    In this way if either knowledge or doing is zero the result zeros (not the case in summation). I love this equation because it has many merits such as its provision of a new definition for procrastination or its possible causes. This led me to draw a quadrant for the Doing- Knowing relationship.

    beBee is to Engage with Passionate Curiosity

    The Linkage Story

    It is when we have high degree of knowing and doing that we have the "vitality of action". I introduce the word vitality in the quadrant to link with another buzz that Deb Lange wrote and titled "Creating the Conditions for Business and Personal Vitality PART 1". I reproduce her quadrant as a reference.

    beBee is to Engage with Passionate Curiosity

    We have vitality when we have high degrees of trust and autonomy. The metaphor that crossed my mind to link the two quadrants is the vitality of seeds. Seeds vitality is a crucial in increasing agricultural output. Seeds that lack vitality shall not give good yield. Low vitality leads to less action and less movement.
    So, how to ensure that vitality is of high degree to get action going? We need to have the seeds of curiosity and these seeds vitality is crucial to get moving and acting. I quote here "One of the best ways to better appreciate the power of curiosity is to start exercising it more consciously in your daily experiences. By doing so, you can transform routine tasks, enlivening them with new energy. You will also likely begin to notice more situations that have the potential to engage you, giving your curiosity even more opportunities to flourish". We increase the power of curiosity by doing and exchanging knowledge much more than we do by simply reading. We learn more, get more curious and improve the seeds of curiosity to get moving and germinate new curiosity seeds.


  • We need to keep the vitality of beBee by engaging with passionate curiosity. I hope I succeeded to explain why.

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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

@Deb Lange- in response to a comment by Deb Helfrich- I wrote a buzz today on why I failed to drink water. I think this post would be interesting to you https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/conscious-and-subconscious-questions

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#67
Max Carter- I am wholeheartedly with you "The best way to exercise this is to ask questions". I agree because the more we know, the more questions we should ask.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#66
I shall do soon Deb Helfrich. Yes, the problem in life starts when we neglect basic requirement to drop them to the second drawe we pay for it. I shall do

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#63
@Franci Eugenia Hoffman- who could not mention great contributors to the discussions dear Franci Eugenia Hoffman? Acknowledgement is the least to do. Yes, I am developing a new lifestyle.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#63
Franci Eugenia Hoffman? Acknowledgement is the least to do. Yes, I am developing a new lifestyle.

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

Thank you for the mention, Ali. Concerning your comments about water and how the lack of it will affect your health, water will help fuel vitality. So don't neglect yourself by not drinking enough water. BTW, your posts and you including others in the post itself or via the comments is an excellent way to engage with passionate vitality.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#61
Pareto Rule operating again dear Mohammed Sultan. THinking energy is wasted- beautiful term.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #48

#55
I replied to Harvey Lloyd. I see this as a very important representation of a process that Harvey is calling "Cycle of Wisdom". I need a little more time to sit with this one.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #47

#53
Love it Harvey Lloyd. I am looking forward to sitting with this for a while.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Dear Mohammed Sultan thinks as he mentioned energy in his last comment. Harvey wrote "The light is (the outcome or trial and error) where energy is applied". Could we amalgamate the two and say trial and error that leads to more curiosity is the source of energy (like light for trees)? I greatly appreciate your comment Mohammed for we are all trying and learn from our errors and hopefully, increasing or curiosity to learn more.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#54
Dear Deb Lange- let me confess to you. I lived in the Gulf and other places for years and temperature and humidity there are on the extremes. In spite of my knowledge and understanding of the importance of water to our bodies I was very neglectful in drinking enough amounts of water. I would even say I rarely did. All my family tend to have blood pressure towards the low end, except for I. Almost 20 years back I suffered from blood pressure. Nobody expected that because I have inner peace and no genetic problems. One time my blood pressure reached 190/140!!! No medical specialist could figure out the causes. I had to go on medicine to deal with it. Recently, when I suffered from other and compounded health problems, an MD did a quick checkup and told me you don't enough water. I warn you of the consequences". This time I knew, I understood and I acted. Because the MD had regularly to check my blood pressure we was surprised. My blood pressure dropped to 110/70. Many other health problems disappeared. Apparently, accumulation of salts in my body raised my blood pressure. Drinking water in plentiful amounts for a month acted like magic. I say this because I want to give a personal example of the applicability of your great comment

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#53
I just wonder what Sara Jacobovici- You have covered brilliantly 50% of what I intend to discuss in the next buzz. Great wisdom, and I believe we are getting closer to understanding knowledge. I am absolutely marveled by the quality of your comment. It is flowing like water and energizing like light.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #43

#47
Seed>Soil>Water>Light Ali Anani. This could be the basis of reviewing the human experience. The seed representing an idea or even a person. The soil is the fertile ground of knowledge and environmental understanding, while the water would be the brain's ability to float this new knowledge into action between others. The light is (the outcome or trial and error) where energy is applied. This is where the process starts over. WIth the reflection of what the light has returned to our system, we can then plant new seeds. This cycle may be labeled the cycle of wisdom. (Curisoisty/need=need for knowledge=skills to apply knowledge=observation of outcome=adjustments/new knowledge=reapplication)=Wisdom

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Sara Jacobovici- what would be your modified equation to include understanding of knowledge?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#48
What is your understanding Deb Lange? Would love to read your thoughts.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
I hope to read your thoughts on whether knowledge is water, light or both Deb Lange. We need your brain.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#45
#45 Sara Jacobovici- with all honesty upon thinking I almost arrived at the same conclusion. like you did. I have just written a quick note to myself understanding knowledge is both water and light. Your use of the word rootedness refers to knowledge as water. If knowledge is light then the tree can do photosynthesis. If both water and light are lacking trees will have difficult times to adapt and so we are. The other issue that crossed my mind id contamination of knowledge. This means contamination of water and light. Yes, both harm trees. We tend to contaminate knowledge rather than understand it. You see the topic is branching out into new directions. Yes, the task isn't easy, but is worthy.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #38

#43
Tremendous questions Ali Anani that only you will be able to organize in a meaningful way. The aspect to understanding that had me link it to the equation is that there needs to be, in the case of arriving at a result that equals action and/or movement, some "rootedness" of the understanding as it would manifest in the real world. Please don't see this as an easy way out, but I see both water and light happening concurrently. I would connect with the water in that the roots of the trees "understand" that it is the water that will enable the process to take place from the ground up while the leaves "understand" that it is the light that has to be absorbed from above to trigger the process of photosynthesis and more. In this way the tree has an understanding of the knowledge of each element; the tree then puts it all into action. What is risky in the human process is that we can take our understanding of knowledge to a place not rooted to our lives and so that understanding and knowledge stays where it is; doesn't get transferred.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#42
Dear debasish majumder below then part of the issue is what you mentioned in your comment. Thank you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#41
Sara Jacobovici- You wrote this while I am developing the Y-tree of our exchange of comments with you and other bees. Drawing this tree has opened my eyes to many possibilities. One important issue is the shape of the tree idea. Now, with this comment you even make the challenge bigger. Is understanding knowledge the limiting factor of the idea tree? We have so much information that we turn into knowledge. So, knowledge in a way is not the limiting factor. However; understanding this knowledge could be the one! If our understanding is incomplete, deficient or shallow then does it sound as a shortage of light or as a shortage of water? Trees adapt differently to each one. I wonder what you would consider this lack of understanding. Is it the light of knowledge or the flow of water? Is the light of knowing or is it the flooding of information? You make me think.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #35

Ali Anani permit me to add another element to the expanding equation of knowing, doing acting. This came from another discussion on another post. It's all cross fertilization! Knowledge is not enough. One needs to understand what that knowledge means in the real world, in the doing, that can enable action or movement.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#37
Thank you Deb Lange- it has been a long journey withm y health issues, but now I am a wiser man. I am working on a new buzz developing new insights of the tree metaphor. I am building The Tree of Ideas. Being interested in metaphors from nature, I think the next buzz shall resonate with you.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #33

#30
Love your comment Harvey Lloyd, you're great! Just want to mention one thing. You write, "In reflection we all do for a reason." I believe strongly in that; everything we do serves a purpose. It is within that stopping to do to reflect the why I am doing this that holds the most potential.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#37
Thank you @DEb Lange- it has been a long journey with y health issues, but now I am a wiser man. I am working on anew buzz developing new insights of the tree metaphor. I am building THe Tree of Ideas. Being interested in metaphors from nature, I think the next buzz shall resonate with you.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
Very interesting comment . So, your curiosity developed into passion to "engage myself, in a virtual world, to interact, enjoy and realize more" Please allow me to ask you a question- don't you find that the more you know, the more curious you want to know more? I find your comment challenging for it offers a new perspective

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

4 years ago #30

Aha...here it's an explicit personification of curiosity, the very restless element of human mind that pricks and provokes one's heart to feel and reciprocate. Yea....out of very curiosity I came across beBee...but more I became aware of it by its atmosphere, workings and thrill, I became passionate to engage myself, in a virtual world, to interact, enjoy and realize more. Farewell to curiosity. ..now, it's more passionate pathways of engagement to create a bold, brilliant and buzzing world of beBee. Thanks Ali Anani for your creative writings!

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

4 years ago #29

Aha...here it's an explicit personification of curiosity, the ver restless element of human mind that pricks and provokes heart to feel and reciprocate. Yea....out of very curiosity I came across beBee...but more I became aware of it by its atmosphere, workings and thrill, I became passionate to engage myself, in a virtual world, to interact, enjoy and realize more. Farewell to curiosity. ..now, it's more passionate pathways of engagement to create a bold, brilliant and buzzing world of beBee. Thanks Ali Anani for your creative writings!

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

4 years ago #28

Aha...here it's an explicit personification of curiosity, the ver restless element of human mind that pricks and provokes heart to feel and reciprocate. Yea....out of very curiosity I came across beBee...but more I became aware of it by its atmosphere, workings and thrill, I became passionate to engage myself, in a virtual world, to interact, enjoy and realize more. Farewell to curiosity. ..now, it's more passionate pathways of engagement to create a bold, brilliant and buzzing world of beBee. Thanks Ali Anani for your creative writings!

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #27

#31
I would submit any discussion that raises our curiosity in the human experience and guides us to be better humans will be worth your fingers at the keyboard and my eyes learning, Ali Anani

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#30
Thank you for you well-phrased and "unsustainable" comment within the right context Harvey Lloyd. Thank you for such a great and encouraging comment. I reveal to you from now that I have already extended my thoughts on this buzz following the great comments this buzz attracted. I am dedicating my next buzz to you because I was waiting to write a buzz that is worthy of your dedication. I am expanding on the idea of passionate curiosity be linking it to the Negative Uncertainty (Capability) and I hope in the right direction.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #25

#23
"Unsustainable" This is a word that seems to be growing in use. Appropriately so. I agree with the "doing" being overdone. Specifically in doing without purpose. In reflection we all do for a reason. This discussion here is about quantifying that reason or adding a purpose. Ali Anani has extended its reach. I believe over the holidays may be a good time for all to research their purpose in doing. If i cant get that done i will work through my food coma. Thanks Deb Helfrich for extending the discussion through your thoughts.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#26
Tausif Mundrawala- You wrote "Well said that the more we would interact the more we would become an intellectual beings". I want to assure you this is what I enjoyed exchanging comments with you. You have been a driving force. Keep it up

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#25
Thank you Sara Jacobovici for your great feelings. I

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #22

#13
Dear Ali Anani, I couldn't be happier with your news! I wish you continued good health! Thank you for your response and I will continue to engage with you and your readers and see what develops.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#23
Deb Helfrich- just a teaser for you. Socrates quote reads "β€œThe only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” β€œThere is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.” Knowing oneself isn't a simple task. Being in this state how would this affect us? Yes, we end-up in asking questions because finding the truth is a long journey.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
My dear Fatima Williams- you are very observative and picked the loop of curiosity very smartly. You are truly a gifted mind. This is very reflected in your comment "Curiosity arises from the eagerness to learn which is mixed with passion which loving what we learn. That learning that comes as a result of curiosity stays longer in our minds as a vital seed as you mention it". You amaze me with your comprehension. Every comment of yours is a great joy to read, learn passionately and move forward fearlessly.

🐝 Fatima G. Williams

🐝 Fatima G. Williams

4 years ago #19

Ali Anani You keep the vitality of beBee passionately curious. Curiosity arises from the eagerness to learn which is mixed with passion which loving what we learn. That learning that comes as a result of curiosity stays longer in our minds as a vital seed as you mention it. That seed only grows and branches out to germinate new curiosities. Every buzz I read of yours dear Anani remains as a curios seed in my mind. Hence my learning is equal to infinity. I love what deb says about Enlivening the energy and rekindling ourselves with new energy. That is the fuel to keep the fire of curiosity alive. Dear Anani you say "We increase the power of curiosity by doing exchanging knowledge much more than we do by simply reading. We learn more, get more curious and improve the seeds of curiosity to get moving and germinate new curiosity seeds" This is precisely what happens at beBee #beBeesforever

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#12
David Navarro L\u00f3pez- first, please alow me to congratulate you for the great announcement that you are now a beBee AMbassador. Well-deserved my friend. I do hope that @Deb Lange would respond first to your comment because she is the originator of the contamination idea. However; I am in total agreement with your comment and " A spammer starts to show? The efficient team of Javier beBee helps us. As it is not based on a logarithm",

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#11
Donald Grandy- what a superb way to put it " beBee's organic growth would indicated to me that we are rich in vitality or at least heading in that direction". Yes, as vital as it is to go in the right direction, equally important it is to understand the journey is long and endless. We need to understand passionately.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#9
You also my friend Harvey Lloyd has been instrumental in engaging my mind and your readers with "Not solutions but yet perspectives we should apply to our 55 minutes i suppose". you have been doing that and I fully agree with you. We thrive on doing this and I am deeply grateful to you and all engaged bees who are widening my own perspective.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#8
Yes, you are very correct Sara Jacobovici in a future buzz.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
I am so happy to read your comment which is rich with very useful links dear CityVP Manjit on how to keep our passionate curiosity. Your writing "The reason our respective passionate curiosity perpetuates is because we are not representative of the norm. Right now where I live, the norm are mostly sleeping, an odd few maybe shortly being awakened to start their day, and a few have already risen to start their travels to the work day. Even if they are "awake" they are lost in the routines and conformity of busyness or things to do". This is pure honey my friend and I am not going to let this idea slip away. I shall respond in a buzz soon.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
Yes, and spot on your idea that we should keep the honey beBee pure and without contamination. Deb Lange, exactly as you have kept producing pure honey because you have passionate curiosity, we shall strive to keep ours as well. We may differ, but with understanding and passion. We shall thrive to keep writing honey-like buzzes that promote others and ourselves that shall keep the seeds of passion in their top vitality. We have ourselves a big role to keep beBee the way it has been.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#4
I couldn't agree more with your comment. I share every word of it Deb Lange. I want also to thank you in person for the inspiration you have given me to write this buzz

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
Sara Jacobovici- first, I am sorry to respond late because I was having a medical checkup. I am glad to tell you that I have been cleared of the "danger zone". My health is recovering fast. My blood pressure now stabilized on 110/70. I enjoyed your comment greatly. I hope that you share a buzz on this segment of your comment "In this way, the equation expands to include the different types of knowledge and what we do to acquire that knowledge; ask through engagement and learn why or act, practice on our own and learn how. Both are dependent on an other and an environment which provides opportunities and resources". I see a new new equation and perspectives germinating. Your understanding is beyond description.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

4 years ago #10

#5
I believe that the core of Bebee itself will keep it uncontamined, as it is based on affinities. One has the freedom to see precisely what one wants, no need to see things one is not interested on, so no need to be unrespecful or bored by tons of infoxication. I believe the only needful thing to keep it as it is, is to going teh way it goes. Your interests have changed? You change your hives. A spammer starts to show? The efficient team of Javier beBee helps us. As it is not based on a logarithm, but on our personal choices, it is as resilient as we can be. Is a formula that strengthens itself with every new bee, new comment, new buzz and new hive. Therefore, it will be always much stronger than a social net based on a program done by some people. Because we, millions of users build it and mold it everyday to our convenience.

Donald 🐝 Grandy PN

Donald 🐝 Grandy PN

4 years ago #9

As always, another great post @AliAnani. Very interesting approach to better understanding the fabric of beBee and beBees. beBee's organic growth would indicated to me that we are rich in vitality or at least heading in that direction. As we approach critical mass we increase the odds of fending off an infection. Keep spreading the Honey!

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #8

#6
No way can I disagree with one of your "comments" CityVP Manjit, so this isn't a disagreement but rather a different perspective from a zoom lens. I see being as the whole and then zoom into that to experience/see the internal being's energy dynamically engaged in knowing, acting, learning, mastering, developing.... Thanks for inspiring me to look Manjit.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #7

"If I had an hour to solve a problem I’d spend 55 minutes thinking about the problem and 5 minutes thinking about solutions." This quote is often attributed to Einstien but there seems to be some controversy as to the origin. I thought it appropriate here Ali Anani. The last few days discussions have identified some basic understanding of thriving. Not solutions but yet perspectives we should apply to our 55 minutes i suppose. Your thoughts here bring to a point the value of open dialogue not just about knowledge or skill but rather the underlying goals and roles of humans in existence. Most social media sites and our current frustration in politics have identified that we spend our 55 minutes of contemplation justifying our position and 5 minutes sharing. We need more discussions about what goes on in the 55 minutes, yours have been enlightening in this area.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #6

#5
Ali Anani has added an important element to preventing contamination of negative emotions you discuss https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/contamination-of-emotions#c45. Deb writes, "As long as we keep our curiosity we will not be infected." Agreed wholeheartedly Deb.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #5

Ali Anani writes, "...this buzz should serve as real example of the degree of engagement that beBee allows for as I base this buzz in response to comments and buzzes published on this platform."

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #4

Dear Ali Anani - I want to draw to your attention a valuable piece of work which adds extra dimensions to what you have opened with in this buzz, and that work is by Jeffrey Pfeffer and Bob Sutton called "The Knowing-Doing Gap" http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/1111.html which brings in a range of factors. As a taster there is a good into in an HBR article that also gives an excerpt to the book http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/1111.html I do have passionate curiosity, which is why for the second day running, I awaken early to this rich mindfest - and uncannily far more in-tune because the day's business has not yet permeated or invaded my mind. The reason our respective passionate curiosity perpetuates is because we are not representative of the norm. Right now where I live, the norm are mostly sleeping, an odd few maybe shortly being awakened to start their day, and a few have already risen to start their travels to the work day. Even if they are "awake" they are lost in the routines and conformity of busyness or things to do. Things to explore is far different proposition than things to do - so this is where my personal view of the knowing-doing relationship expresses itself. The curiosity that stems from within me does not start with knowing-doing, though in the way Pfeffer and Sutton deal with knowing-doing, that strikes an accord. Where curiosity starts with me is in BEING. Being-Doing is a far more powerful frame for me than Knowing-Doing. One does not have to be necessarily curious in order to know and do - but to be and to do encompasses both learning and action. Instead of seeds, I turn to FLOW. a.k.a. Being=Flow https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-playing-field/201402/flow-states-and-creativity

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #3

You succeeded royally Ali Anani. Wonderfully written and expressed. Out of the many things that stand out for me at this time is that, from a developmental point of view, a child engages in curiosity, asking why all the time in order to learn and grow; to know the why. However, repetitive action is what the child engages in to master a behavior; action in order to know the how. In this way, the equation expands to include the different types of knowledge and what we do to acquire that knowledge; ask through engagement and learn why or act, practice on our own and learn how. Both are dependent on an other and an environment which provides opportunities and resources.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
Thanks are due to you Javier beBee with the beBee Team for creating the vital beBee with such vitality

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

4 years ago #1

thanks Ali Anani very interesting ! :-)

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