Coexisting Minds and Experiences

Coexisting Minds and Experiences

My exchange of comments with the brainy Sara Jacobovici has resulted in writing many buzzes. This seems to be a continuing phenomenon as I am writing this buzz as an extension of our exchange of comments yesterday.

In her buzz yesterday Sara wrote:

"In a way, we can say that we can’t achieve equilibrium without knowing how to tolerate and work with the disequilibrium. Because the two states coexist, we need to learn how to be in that tension of coexistence. I now think of the dynamic process of the dialectical as that tension; a tension that synthesizes".
Sara Jacobovici

My response was the theme of another buzz by Sara and she highlighted wonderfully my comment

"Why do we see coexistence as opposites? Yes, we say light and darkness but they are always together, never mind in varying percentages.
Is it due to our habitual reductionist approach? We reduce coexisting elements to their parts and for convenience we place them at dead ends?
Why humans drive to think in parts and not the whole? All living systems adapt to their environment as they realize what is in balance now may be off balance a minute later? Do we need to evolve our thinking to think in terms of coexistence instead of two opposites sitting on opposing ends? I am surely going to find a way for coexistence whenever I think of two opposites. Creation is coexisting and not separation."Ali Anani, PhD

My attention turned to asking myself if we could have practical applications of these exchanges in our lives and businesses. I am sharing two examples to augment these exchanges of comments and to invite for even more of them.

Let me start with negotiation first. The negotiators may start form two opposite ends agreeing and disagreeing. If the separation thinking prevails then the two negotiating sides shall start with doubts and mistrust. They see the gap as a big one to jump over. One side sees self in the light of knowing and the other side in the darkness of unknowing. But light and darkness coexist and so agreeing and disagreeing as well as knowing and unknowing. Instead of starting from two distant ends the negotiating parties may realize that if they see the points of agreement there also areas of agreement that is not visible directly. It is with this determination that they may find these bright agreeing spots that shall make negotiations easier. Agreeing and disagreeing are dynamic and are subject to the initial positions of the negotiating parties. Changing this position may send the negotiation into more productive trajectories.

My second example comes from the heart-moving buzz of DonΒ  Β Kerr. In his buzz titled "You can't fix it but you can make it better" Don describes his experience of one his family suffering from cancer. It is a must read buzz. What attracted me first to read this buzz is its title. It is not fixing it or not; it is more a search of coexistence of both poles. Yes, we can make it better and the buzz tells you exactly to do it better. Between the two opposite ends lies coexistence. This is consistent with what Sara Jacobovici in her buzz:

"I have communicated my bias that opposites do not exist; opposites are created. And what she wrote later"
"I see this drive to compartmentalize, to create opposites, as a defense strategy gone wrong".
Sara Jacobovici


I say: Isn't this a sort of defensive negotiation strategy as well? As our minds coexist so our thinking should be.


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#37
The minute I finished responding to your previous comment I started searching my new thoughts and their viability. Now, this comment and the last line reading "We have a choice in leadership. Referee coexistence or lead creative thinking" fueled even more my interest Harvey Lloyd. I feel possibilities of new creative ideas are limitless.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #34

#36
Thank you for your kind words and your posts that stir deep thoughts. Coexistence, for me, is compromise. Steven Covey of the Seven Habits fame expressed coexistence as such. He stated that synergy is within the "Third Alternative". This has been my thoughts when faced with two opposing thoughts and the group seems to be forming ranks within coexistence. Use it any measure of words, i would attempt to get folks off of coexistence and thinking beyond their limiting beliefs, towards the third alternative. Our society today has elevated compromise and coexistence as the only way to survive in a world that is leaving humanity, and celebrating uniqueness. The next time you are in a meeting where two competing views surface, throw out, if i had a billion dollars to meet the goal.......Then ask each individaul to come up with zany ideas and write them on the board. Coexistence now has become synergy where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. This also allows people to get around their limiting beliefs for a time. We have a choice in leadership. Referee coexistence or lead creative thinking.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
First, I am very delighted to read again your comments Harvey Lloyd. You enrich discussions Yes, sometimes we need to have two independent thoughts to live together within the same space. They may generate a new thought as a way of compromise, or new thoughts might emerge as a compromise. The easy path is to think of the incompatible thoughts as two opposing ends. However; creative thinking looks for creative solutions. You open my eyes to a buzz that I should write- How to Make the Incompatible compatible? I shall proceed with idea and share my thoughts. Harvey, you never stop stirring my mind.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #32

The word coexistence in itself tends to bring forward two independent thoughts that must survive within the same space. How we approach these independent thoughts will determine synergy or compromise. Interdependence removes the ceilings of coexistence. Our world is growing in economics, population and coexistence. Is this really a path that is sustainable? The discussion thread points to the humanity of our existance and would suggest that coexistence will be difficult to maintain, without this aspect of interdependence. Your courage to tackle complex human topics is refreshing.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
Absolutely and I accept your superb comment fully. I love this "In biological research they saw a contribution to life, rather than contributing to death". Your example calls for life affirmation and I love it my friend, Manjit.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #30

#32
For me I need to explore the inner soul of torment where it exists and ask how it can be that in some scientists that it does not. Here the story of the Manhattan Project fascinates me. It produces stories of torment as in how it affected J. Robert Oppenheimer and incredulity in how it effected Edward Teller. http://www.newsweek.com/hiroshima-smouldered-our-atom-bomb-scientists-suffered-remorse-360125 Those are two most notable physicists who built the bomb, but a lesser known story are the physicists who dropped their dicipline and took up biological science. This venture into biology was not just based on the products of nuclear medicine, the change in field in some was due to what these physicists deemed to be LIFE AFFIRMING. In biological research they saw a contribution to life, rather than contributing to death. These physicists had no choice but to develop the bomb first, because had the Germans succeeded with the Japanese the results would have been even more catastrophic at a much larger and wider scale. Yet having developed this mass destruction weapons, the reality of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) created an arms race - and this is where Edward Teller focused his attention, that an advantage for the Russians would mean checkmate for the United States. The world had become a political chess piece with nuclear weapons occupying this chessboard. The key here is the physicists who changed careers because they found the change to be life-affirming. It is this value that we must focus on, because we know that there is no humanity once we become pawns instead of people.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#31
Thank you for your precious comment dear CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. Ethics in doing research are ahead of personal glories. Research in my opinion must work for the cause of humanity. Alfred Nobele taught us a lesson in turning his attention from chemical wars to the peaceful applications of research. Yes, humanity comes first.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #28

#30
Only in the realm of synthetic biology can it be wrong when these people are tampering with the keys of life without humanity and you are the first to acknowledge that scientists must work for the good of humanity. It is not wrong to be a cells because we are that already, but humanity - to move forward in science with humanity as an afterthought, we have seen the cost of that before and the stakes in the decades ahead of us are becoming more rather than less complex.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#29
again as I am using my mobile i shall write a brief comment. We are cellular bodies and a complex of them. Does this mean it is wrong to think in termd of cells

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #26

#28
I see the mother who dies while delivering differently, in her death will be the prayer all mothers hold in their heart, that their child shall lead a great life. The mother who is told that either she lives or the baby lives will be convinced that she must live by those who love her, but her first instinct is to die so the child shall live. A parent whose child dies before they do go on to live in the worst kind of grief imaginable. In this kind of situation our survival instinct and our human instinct diverge. It is what makes our human instinct so challenging, because this is the most extreme of any given reality and may we never face it. Once we see life as cells, then we become mere cells only and life merely a continuity. Being human is never easy as a being.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#27
This is such a great comment that I am left baffled how to respond to dear CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. I believe my next buzz shall address it. If we look at ferns we find that they blow their seeds in the air and the cells which did that die. Life and death coexist. One is dying and one is starting life. There are many examples which show similar behavior. The mother who dies while delivering. One dies and the other starts life. I am still thinking

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #24

The opposite of life is death and that is something I will oppose so long as their is a sinew of desire for life, but sadly we see people choose this opposite, whether they have stopped living or have taken a life ending choice. To be in opposition to an opposite to existence means we care enough to live or more importantly care about the quality of life and living. Co-existence is then predicated on our desire for existence and the moment we light that fire, it is the fire of meaning. In any situation where existence has flat-lined, we can revive our being so long as that being has not reached the point of no-return which is finality. We must therefore recognize our own state of existence before we unify existence as co-existence. I am not going to take this beyond the level of existence because there will be plenty of time to contemplate what life offers after existence. We should ideally not dismiss existence while we exist unless talk of the beyond helps us with existence. To draw on the past or the future should be a condition of existence, but existence that is drowned by the anxiety of the past or the worry of the future, is step away from existence - and co-existence with people who drain or distract us from life means we should be clear that co-existence is the mutual meeting of existence and not existence meeting its opposite.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#24
Great and I shall defer my gratitude till I have read your buzz to be published later tonight. For now, you are a modest entor Sara Jacobovici

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#23
My senses proved right dear Sara Jacobovici invited such a great comment from you. You put us on the right "rail".

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #21

I am not only grateful for the incorporation of our exchanges Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee but continue to experience the synchronicity of it all while I am drafting my 60 day countdown buzz in which I write, "Dr. Ali Anani, in his relationship with me, has challenged me to grow in my thinking as an individual. Dr. Ali comes up with the right questions to enable me to develop and articulate my thoughts with each piece I write." Your work again Dr. Ali has not only opened up another route to process our thoughts but insights into that process itself.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #20

#16
#17 Absolutely, gentlemen, Laurent Boscherini. My mind is buzzing with the concept of gΓ©nΓ©rescences. From many perspectives including (one of my favorite) a sensory one. Whenever anyone has had to walk through a train speeding along a track and move from one compartment to another, the sensory information from the movements of the train allow us to experience the opposite of equilibrium or a disorder of movement and make adjustments in order to maintain our balance and continue to move along. The sensory information provides us with patterns of movements fluctuating between order and disorder.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
Very true dear Tausif Mundrawala and thee is the reality. I hope you shall upload your buzz very soon and in which we hear greater news about you. Thanks for your comment and appreciation.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#18
In complexity science the sum of parts shall never give the whole because of the interactions and feedback among the parts Joyce \ud83d\udc1d Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee. In complicated systems you are right. Your procedure works pretty well. In complexity it is a different story. Now, the issue becomes if you see human behavior as complex or not. If complex, then we look for simple rules that generate complexity. A great comment to ponder on. I appreciate greatly the way you expressed procedure.

Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee

"Why humans drive to think in parts and not the whole? " I think it is necessary to break into parts and negotiate with oneself. My knowledge of psychology tells me that everyone has "triggers" and operating as a whole does not acknowledge those triggers. One MUST break into parts to deal with this reality. In many respects, I see your cerebral buzzes as breaking into parts to deal with independent issues. You do it well.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

You put absolutely mindfully dear Laurent Boscherini will love it too. Thank you for boosting my day with your excellent comment.

Laurent Boscherini

Laurent Boscherini

4 years ago #15

#14
yes ! Thank you dear Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee for sharing your excellent post.Maybe, everything remains in connection with everything in impermanence and its "gΓ©nΓ©rescences".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

"If one is matter then the other is anti-matter". This is what you wrote dear debasish majumder. You noticed how you put them in an opposite form (matter and anti-matter)? You asked and answered your question. Thank you for your confidence in my writing and for sharing the buzz.

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador
Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#11
I stole the term of breaking eyes from your first line of your buzz today. Yes, I feel the golden dust

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#10
let them break and let the creative stardust free flowing

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#9
The "Eyes of my brain" are breaking because they are already colliding

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#8
there is no separation when creative minds collide ;-)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#7
If we don't find opportunities we create them. Not finding one co-exists with finding one

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#5
all is possible, we live in a world plenty of opportunities, so yes, always welcome!

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#4
my pleasure!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
Hopefully, we co-create a buzz from your buzzes

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#2
Thank you and you extracted a main point of the buzz

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

co-create

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

agree with the notion of creation as co-existence, separation will never bee fruitful, well done Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Sara Jacobovici- you are mentioned in this buzz

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