Common Sense that has no sense
I am reading this quote
"The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense, not between right and wrong".
Carl Jung
This quote sent my mind on an inquiry path. Why don't we say this is logical? Or, this makes logic to me to keep the rhyme of saying makes sense? That is not all. When we say this makes sense to me- does it relate to our senses and how?
We are sensory beings. Are senses enough to guide us to the truth? Aren't logical thinking, systemized steps of thinking, form a better way to arrive at facts?
We don't say it is logical. Is saying it makes sense to me? Does this common sense relate to our five traditional senses of smell, taste, hearing, sight and touch?
Logical thinking may help us reach accurate solutions as much as possible. This is true. However; logical thinking has betrayed us from finding more possibilities, more discoveries and tied up our minds with the chains of inherited beliefs. For one thousand year Aristotle led us to believe that the earth is composed of four materials: water, air, earth and fire. Where is the logic in accepting misleading theories or concepts for such long times? Had we used our senses would have realized the wrongness of this theory.
Do I dare say that senses and logic should be aligned or pointing to the same direction before we may say something is right or wrong? In other words I would change the quote of Carl Jung to the pendulum swinging between logic and senses more than sense and nonsense.
We accepted that our senses are five for centuries. Now, we add knowledge as a sense, to give one example. The pendulum swings between senses and logic- but we need to define more what we mean by senses. Does this make common sense?
We are using common sense to accept long-term quotes that make no sense!
What is your opinion?
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Ali Anani
منذ 5 سنوات #96
Great examples that make sense . Your examples are formidable and to me they form an integral part of the buzz. You got me thinking and deeply.
Julio Angel 🐝Lopez Lopez
منذ 7 سنوات #95
I will be very attentive, their buzz always interesting and welcome. Ali Anani
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #94
The discussions here and a sudden observation are the theme of my next buzz Julio Angel \ud83d\udc1dLopez Lopez. My search for facts has guided me to soe very strange observations and they shall also respond to your comment here.
Julio Angel 🐝Lopez Lopez
منذ 7 سنوات #93
#122 Ali Anani The historical context of Aristotle and other thinkers is not ours. As a species we continue to evolve. Senses or skills? A higher sense whose organ is the brain? Thank you for awakening the skills.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #92
You aren't off the mark dear . I read reports on the missing senses that we have, but are unable to locate. This is similar to the Periodic Table in which few elements with certain properties were anticipated well before their discovery.Yes, Euclidean thinking is outdated and now we have the fourth dimension of spacetime. I shall not be surprised if we have new senses to fill in some gaps.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #91
We are here to learn from each other dear Tausif Mundrawala. Let us remain always bold and differ sensibly. I encourage you to keep doing this for the sake of knowing more. We all passed through your experience, but this is a way to advancement.
David B. Grinberg
منذ 7 سنوات #90
David B. Grinberg
منذ 7 سنوات #89
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #88
Nice thoughts Yogesh Sukal. My problem is sometimes logic doesn't doesn't make sense.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #87
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #86
Thank yo dear Tausif Mundrawala for your logic and magic". Nice thoughts here, but I wonder if you would see any connection between magic and senses!
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #85
I appreciate greatly your comment dear \ud83d\udc1d Fatima Williams. You wrote " If I use reasoning filled with learning to define how to work my senses I benefit more than when I use logic to define how senses work". I called for the two to work together. I have to study your idea as I respect differences with you to the maximum degree. May be you find the expansion of this buzz in the buzz I have already published you may find in part more on how I think.
🐝 Fatima G. Williams
منذ 7 سنوات #84
🐝 Fatima G. Williams
منذ 7 سنوات #83
Ali Anani Senses are like the mixture in the air that forms the clouds. The right mix provides a pleasant rain and a rainbow And the wrong mixture causes a thunderstorm or even worse. If I use reasoning filled with learning to define how to work my senses I benefit more than when I use logic to define how senses work. Senses are a part of me and I wouldn't want nonsense messing around with it. CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit I love and second Mr Manjit's comment here. "The journey of focusing on extraordinary sense distances me from common sense - and the judgements that result from application of common sense." This is an excellent way to discern ourselves from people with common sense. Our senses ( The way we see, think , speak ) are not common. Then why do we call it common sense. As Mr Manjit explains it's an extra-ordinary sense. It's Us. Common sense was designed by educational institutions and the society for people who live like a herd of sheep trained to move in one direction. Like an election that just happened with people using their common sense disregarding their unique senses which would have told them not to follow the flock.
David Navarro López
منذ 7 سنوات #82
you are right...should write more about it...already ruminating....
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #81
Dearsiraj shaik- this is a powerful summing of what is going here "The logics, senses, knowledge and many aspects may differ but streaming into by binding a chain and also interlinking with combinations". I simply love it.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #80
WOW! I have just dropped a comment on your synchronicity buzz Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange and I am referring in it to the eye of the vortices in turbulent waters. wI shall explain more in the buzz.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #79
This is an extremely precious dedication dear friend @Gert Scholtz. One mind does clap alone. It is minds like yours that make clapping possible. I am not less than any one of you my great commenters in learning from these discussions. I am preparing a buzz that I promised in response to the comment of my friend CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. I could write at least ten more buzzes by expanding what I learnt from these comments. I am proud of you and being connected with souls like yours. Gert.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #78
This is an extremely precious dedication dear friend Gert Scholtz. I could write at least ten more buzzes by expanding what I learnt from these comments. I am proud of you and being connected with sould like yours. Gert.
Gert Scholtz
منذ 7 سنوات #77
Ali Anani The 100th comment is dedicated to you Ali. You open my mind to new possibilities and discoveries by learning me through your posts to give credence to the senses and to making sense. You never impose thought and yet you are a master at teaching and inspiring thought. Thank you for that Ali.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #76
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #75
Actually if your time would allow you to read the very enriching comments and their dynamism you shall find your questions are of extreme relevance my friend Aaron Skogen. You ask questions and we need time to study them sensibly before answering them logically.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #74
Melissa Hefferman to comment. What attracted my eye is your solid writing "I keep uncovering discoveries that further my belief in a strange instinctual balance between the wisdom of uncertainty, and faith in Self and others". I love your use of the term "the wisdom of uncertainty". I fully agree. Certainty is like a comfort zone and it teaches us a little. Imagine if we lived in a place where temperature is almost fixed year round then what challenges we would have? Or, would have we ever bettered our knowledge of forecasting? You are a wise lady.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #73
DEar David Navarro L\u00f3pez- what a great way to start your comment "The common sense is the less common of the senses". I love it as I do with the rest of your comment my friend. The rest of your comment explained AND justified your powerful line of thinking. The other point that got me thinking are your concluding lines "We are blindfolded for the path ahead of us. To learn from our errors of the past and be cautious is the only way we have to date, at least, not to make the same error twice, and eventually, find the righteous path". This is an interesting point. Common sense is in line of your thinking; sadly, there many voiced inviting us to forget about the past. We can't erase the past and it has a role in shaping up our future. I honestly believe you should expand these line into a buzz.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #72
Dear Tausif Mundrawala- great and you summed up your thoughts very nicely in one line "Well in many cases sense plays a key role to support the logic and come to the conclusion". I hope that sense plays a part ALWAYS.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #71
Absolutely and I am glad your mention of wars dear Lisa Vanderburg. It is unfortunate that most creative ideas developed during wars. Examples include aeroplanes, radar and toxic chemicals. The lack of wisdom that led to wars thre its shadows on future generations. It seems humans are not different from forests. After a burn out a forest flourishes. We do insist on burning cities, trees and then develop methods to rebuild.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #70
harish daniel- I agree with you and I would say that Pareto's Rule works here as well. 20% of people have the wisdom to make use of their knowledge.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #69
My response to the comment of Harvey Lloyd
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #68
Thank you so much for your contribution Ian Weinberg. I expressed similar views on your line "And so we work with a whole and connected brain, equipped with multiple connections for integration". Yes, I consider the right and left brains two resources that need to be integrated.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #67
Harvey Lloyd- this is quite an interesting comment. From the individual logic to the consideration of community and being wise in communicating with the community is an interesting point. In community we lose one degree of freedom and wisdom must pop up in our dealings. I concur therefore with your view "Critical thinking will always be a part of the process but not the whole".
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #66
This is an interesting idea dear Devesh Bhatt I hope he would comment on this idea.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #65
David Navarro López
منذ 7 سنوات #64
Lisa Vanderburg
منذ 7 سنوات #63
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 7 سنوات #62
Trial and error is the incubator of learning. So yes we do improve when we learn and generalize onto the next topic. But the give and take of the end game will always teach us new things.
Ian Weinberg
منذ 7 سنوات #61
Thanks for the connection Sara Jacobovici I see much erudite dialogue has been expressed hereunder. My value contribution would reflect my subjective space. I invoke the concept of the left and right cerebral hemispheres where the right hemisphere is the seat of big picture sensitivity, subtlety, creativity and emotional connectivity. The left hemisphere is the place of linear logic and strategy, incorporating speech, calculation and 'logical' working memory. From a neuropsychological perspective it appears that the right hemiphere intuits and requests the left hemisphere to flesh-out the 'Word Document' aand thus bring into reality the abstract, intuitive seed. And so we work with a whole and connected brain, equipped with multiple connections for integration.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 7 سنوات #60
Critical thinking and logic have their place when we consider our own well being and inner monologue. Short of being independently wealthy and living in the wilderness, the value of our critical thinking will need to manifest itself within the community in which we live. In this phase is where our knowledge is tested against the end game where results are expected. To recognise this process of logic relieves the strain of being right and wrong. Gaining knowledge is an expansive process that only after we consolidate our thoughts and beliefs might we test it in public. This public test is where wisdom is born. The theory that is always in play is each of us is within an end game. Whether social, knowledge gathering or executing around goals. Critical thinking will always be a part of the process but not the whole.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #59
Devesh 🐝 Bhatt
منذ 7 سنوات #58
each condition is evaluated in retrospect using logic wherein we distinguish the driving factor. So, in a sense as adults senses are evaluated logically whereas logic maybe evaluated logically or through senses. I am also contemplating the means of assessing logic/rationality and reasoning as deduced and induced. Another interestig thing is this. Maybe if we replace the crying child with a crying infant , the sensory response across all types of responders gets heightened . You pose a question which requires more time and thinking
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #57
My pendulum has changed its swing towards you so favorably my dear friend (and I truly mean it) CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. While still bewildered by your previous comment and its depth. This one is not of less value. I am reading your line of thoughts "That is my greatest joy in learning. Swings create variation, variation is the challenge to finding flow and in finding flow we discover new variety". You got me dancing on my chair with the music your words coming alive. This is a grand way of thinking and I have no doubt you shall build on your two last comments something novel. I smell the fragrance.
CityVP Manjit
منذ 7 سنوات #56
My joy is equally multiplied, for my next port of call is the ignition of a Paradox Wisdom called "Extraordinary Sense". There is a term "brothers-in-arms" which is appropriate for the violence of the 20th Century. I see the formation in the 21st Century of a "kinship-in-mind-spirit-body" which is both brother and sister. Kinship is most evident here in your buzz and all the responses to your buzz. For sure the violence has not abated in our world and continues to burn its centuries old fires, but kinship is being nurtured and I will focus on what will make the 21st Century actually 21st Century. That is my greatest joy in learning. Swings create variation, variation is the challenge to finding flow and in finding flow we discover new variety. This for me is the absolute and greatest meaning of the word "DIVERSITY".
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #55
This is a hugely interesting comment my dear fiend CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. You send my mind swinging in too many directions. Yes, and I am perplexed. My next buss is a buzz based on this comment. No question asked. I am privileged with the comments received so far and with this comment of yours my joy multiplied. I have a lot to say in my next buzz my friend.
CityVP Manjit
منذ 7 سنوات #54
There is no proof required that your publications are most alive other than the common sense to see the kind of minds that are discussing these publications right here. What I look at here is not publication but this solitary quote and that brings to question whether the pendulum metaphor serves the realities of the 21st Century, a century that Carl Jung never saw. What the pendulum metaphor serves is the realities of the 20th Century that continue to reside in our century - which are the swings between extremes. This quote bothered you sufficiently to detail an alternative view and give rise to a different view Your focus contains "THAT" and I am removing that "THAT" and arriving at a new title "Common Sense has no Sense" The pendulum metaphor still has a place just as physicists can abstract the pendulum and create an idealization called the "simple pendulum", which then can itself become a highly elaborate conception that creates very complex thoughts Physics of a Simple Pendulum http://www.binghamton.edu/physics/docs/physics-of-simple-pendulum-9-15-08.pdf What we see in Jung's quote then determines where we individually take it. Where I have taken it is a movement away from observing swings and their resulting extremes and the seeking of an alternative to "common sense". That alternative then can inform my learning journey because whereas common sense is a group dynamic, the alternative at the individual level becomes extraordinary sense. That journey of focusing on extraordinary sense distances me from common sense - and the judgements that result from application of common sense. People with common sense don't think like this :-)
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #53
The pair of logic and intensity is a powerful one. Like a wave it has to have certain intensity to have an effect. I need to ponder on this comment at a greater depth dear siraj shaik. You have blown out my mind with the quality of your comments.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #52
Brilliant comment my friend siraj shaik will find this comment very useful as she is writing a buzz based on the exchange of comments on this buzz. I know well that she refers to the sense a mother has to her baby while still in her embryo. I am too shall be excited to read what she will say on this comment. She is in a better position to reflect the depth of your comment dear Siraj.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #51
I love your short, but meaningful comments
Mohammed Abdul Jawad
منذ 7 سنوات #50
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #49
You know dear friend siraj shaik that reading a comment from you makes me joyful. Glad to read your comment
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #48
You relaxed me with your ending line dear CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit " but in the notions of phronesis and knowledge presented here, are the timeless ones that flow into my learning journey". I ask myself sometimes which publication I wrote is still alive? Mostly, I have two presentations that people are still interested in. You bring to my attention for the term "value". It is timeless. For me, this comment falls in this category.
CityVP Manjit
منذ 7 سنوات #47
Aristotle came up with notions of different kinds of knowledge of which phronesis (or practical wisdom or prudence) was one. Phronesis does not sit alone and is only practical in flow as a systematic relationship with other types of knowledge. https://aquileana.wordpress.com/2014/02/01/aristotles-three-types-of-knowledge-in-the-nichomachean-ethics-techne-episteme-and-phronesis/ The question "Can we ever attain wisdom?" depends on what wisdom we are talking about. Now take a look at this slide presentation by Rabbi Dr. Shlomo C. Pill called "Between the Ivory Tower and the Street: Theoretical and Practical Wisdom in Islamic and Jewish Jurisprudence" http://www.academia.edu/11188783/Between_the_Ivory_Tower_and_the_Street_Theoretical_and_Practical_Wisdom_in_Islamic_and_Jewish_Jurisprudence The example of Jewish and Islamic Law is not what is key here, what I draw my attention to is the difference between ivory tower (mountain) and practical wisdom (valley - a rich green fertile valley). There must be a reason why we pass the name of Aristotle from generation to generation - and there are things he said that are no longer relevant to our time, only to his time, but in the notions of phronesis and knowledge presented here, are the timeless ones that flow into my learning journey.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #46
Thank you my friend Bill Stankiewicz, \ud83d\udc1d Brand Ambassador.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #45
I needed your "breath" with us dear Sara Jacobovici. I am very pleased that you are writing a dedicated buzz on senses. Like you are, I am so involved in the discussions here because they increase my awareness of my own senses.
Bill Stankiewicz
منذ 7 سنوات #44
Sara Jacobovici
منذ 7 سنوات #43
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #42
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #41
You wrote a great post Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange. However; I suggest that you make iit clear that every bee is invited. I felt the need to emphasize this.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #40
Harvey Lloyd- this is a great approach and opens venues for new thinking. Your concluding paragraph is so rich and intriguing. "Within our singular selves we can look at something and separate ourselves from the community. In most cases we will have to move from ourselves towards the community. Logic now changes its view". Yes, you are correct. I am amazed again by this synchronicity. I have a pendulum on my desk with many balls (self-made) and as I move the balls they move and produce different waves. It is only possible to see the waves clearly by changing the side of view. We need to abandon one-way thinking and delve into inward-outward as much as outward-inward.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 7 سنوات #39
logic, i think, is a process more than a sense. Like critical thinking, reasoning and other words that set atop our situations where decisions must be made. I would say though, logic when being scrutinized across many different people could appear to be a sense. But logic in its me only form is not necessarily a sense. I have enjoyed the conversation here as everyone has weighed in concerning the word. I saw your post more concerning the processes in-between "sense and non-sense". We watch major negotiations play out in media and it appears to start out with saber rattling then begin the journey of moving towards making sense. In viewing these things from the outside it appears to be an illogical process. But we have become beings of extremes. Each side starts at the far left and far right and we all hope it lands in the middle. Illogical. The one thing i recognized in reading the various comments is the singular or community view when discussing your intriguing topic. Within our singular selves we can look at something and separate ourselves from the community. In most cases we will have to move from ourselves towards the community. Logic now changes its view.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #38
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #37
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #36
Yes, and what a wonderful idea. I will. I invite also dear Sara Jacobovici with whom also I have so many unbelievable synchronicity. Two points (people) make a line. Still better three points (people) make a trend.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #35
It is again synchronicity and amazing this time. I started reading your linked buzz (in your first comment" and decided to copy and paste this part here because it moved me dear Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange. I mean this bit from our buzz: "Every time we discount our own or another person’s feelings, we deny our humanity, which leads to confusion, stress, conflict, an overwhelming work environment and even corruption. Your comment just explained why this paragraph moved me. I invite readers to read Deb's buzz: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@deb-lange/the-gift-of-our-senses
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #34
Thank you dear Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange for your prominent response. I believe the discussions here are so hot to warrant your "intervention". Now, off to read your buzz.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #33
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #32
CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit- n the other side, we get deeper in the valley of the unknown, the deeper we know, We know a little more, and so many new unknowns emerge. Can we ever attain wisdom?
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #31
Interesting thoughts:)))
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #30
Thank you for writing an absorbing comment Phil Friedman. Right from the strat your comment aroused my attention "some of us do say, "This is logical" or "This is illogical". But we don't confuse logic". I agree, but wonder why don't we say also :This makes logic and sense to me"? Your reference to the taboos of confining our reasoning are spot on. Yes, we reduce our freedom of thinking by doing that. The question is then can an imprisoned my think logically or use senses properly? Your mind-provoking comment makes me ask "Do we sense the logic or reasning"? Is it possible to fuse both? SOmething to ponder on.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #29
Dear Lisa \ud83d\udc1d Gallagher- so happy by your comment and sharing of the buzz. Your examples are simple; yet powerful. They show the interplay between senses and logic. Your examples are best to explain what I meant in writing towards the end of this buzz "I would change the quote of Carl Jung to the pendulum swinging between logic and senses more than sense and nonsense". This time using logic and senses I say thank you.
Lisa Gallagher
منذ 7 سنوات #28
Phil Friedman
منذ 7 سنوات #27
CityVP Manjit
منذ 7 سنوات #26
It is true that where there is uncertainties there are theories, but we have built a mountain of theories but the valley of phronesis has not been cut deep, humanities mountains would transform our collective being if they were based on the valley creating potential of practical wisdom.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #25
Part 2/ The last link you provided in your comment CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit to read as well. The ist paragraph reads: How reliable is the knowledge provided by our senses? There are many different theories about how our senses actually work. Initially, that may seem surprising: surely our senses just communicate what’s out there, be it an image, a sound, or a smell, to the brain? But of course, the process is far more complicated than that, and the variables that are involved means that there is room for debate over what exactly happens. Moreover, just a quick glance at the perceptive abilities of animals quickly reveals just how limited our senses are: in terms of our eyes, for example, our lenses are not capable of dealing with objects at long distance, the twin images they then project onto the retina are tiny and upside-down, and the retina itself is pretty much colour-blind. The optical abilities of human beings, then, are very poor. So how do we see with any certainty? Where there is uncertainty, there are theories…
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #24
You put a smile on my face my friend CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit.I was just about to retire, but couldn't resist the temptation to respond to your unique comment. Truly, the pendulum swings, but two brains may swing unpredictably like a double pendulum. We are Newtonians when we have one simple pendulum. Now, we have more than three pendulums and who on earth would guess their movement. Pendulums may produce lovely waves out of their chaos. With your brain, we have many pendulums and complexity increases. Out of this complexity order may emerge. Out of the discussion pendulums here I feel some order shall emerge and your comment is doing that. The problem is in our insistence to deal with multi-pendulums linearly when in fact we should have enough senses to know that their motion is far from linear. You make my mind oscillate in a very non-linear manner, Manjit.
CityVP Manjit
منذ 7 سنوات #23
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #22
An interesting comment yours is Erroll -EL- Warner. If I work backwards perceptions affect our senses and these senses in turn are tied to our logical thinking. Senses are the bridge between perceptions and logical thinking. Interesting and to me this is new thinking that is worthy of discussion at length. Did I understand you right?
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #21
Ver deep comment and is full with insights. Phillip Hubbell you wrote "I believe that everything we learn and everything we feel are stored separately and our conscious present dips into the databases to retrieve our memories using learned rules" Are you then in agreement with what I wrote in the buzz the pendulum swinging between logic and senses more than sense and nonsense"? If not, then you have an insight that I may haven't captured.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #20
What Carl Jung meant was the main reason for me to write this buzz Gert Scholtz. So, you read my mind. I agree with you that logic can flow from senses. In fact, my conclusion was the same. I wrote "pendulum swinging between logic and senses ". For me, the two feedback to each other. I thank you Gert for your sound explanations.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #19
You provide fresh thoughts to the discussions here. I invite Sara Jacobovici? I am still pondering on your line of thought "Sensation is direct experience and knowledge is indirect experience". Worthy of studying more before commenting because this idea is quite interesting.
Gert Scholtz
منذ 7 سنوات #18
CityVP Manjit
منذ 7 سنوات #17
#14 Zacharias needs to put the bee after his first name - when the bee emoji is placed after the surname the system does not create a tag. That is why now the bee emoji appears in the middle of my name here at beBee. Zacharias needs to make that change, then the tag will highlight.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #16
@Zacharias Voulgaris 🐝- first, don't know why your name highlighting even though I follow you. I appreciate our differences greatly. I learn from differences more than I learn from anything else. I responded in part to your comment in my response to Sara Jacobovici to share their minds on this issue. I shall be grateful to you to explain what you mean exactly by reasoning and if it is different from giving meaning as explained in Sara's first comment #12. I seek to know more and I am asking for verifications to know more. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to do just this.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #15
I appreciate your sharing of the buzz dear Sara Jacobovici
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #14
Thank you and I say the beautiful mind of Sara Jacobovici produces such a beautiful comment. You are very wise to write " For my definition of senses is the means through which we process information that is then given meaning'. In this sense, knowledge is a sense because it is what gives knowledge a meaning. I wrote towards the end of this buzz "we add knowledge as a sense". I think it was you dear Sara who wrote this first. I agree with you. Even though in the following comment of @Zacharias Voulgaris he rejected the idea that knowledge is a sense I still believe it is. Sometimes knowledge misguides us and only our senses will guide us to our wrongness. I assure you Sara that I enjoyed the meaning of your extremely valuable comment through all my senses- in site of the fact that senses are still to be defined.
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
منذ 7 سنوات #13
Sara Jacobovici
منذ 7 سنوات #12
Sara Jacobovici
منذ 7 سنوات #11
Sara Jacobovici
منذ 7 سنوات #10
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #9
You are an architect dear Harvey Lloyd in giving examples and stories that make your point of view crystal clear. I loved the idea of seeing the two faces of logic: the outside one and the inside one. This is an idea I am pondering on. You verifies this thought by your writing "Logic is something we should practice, and is typically the first step in a beginning. But eventually we must face the values, budgets and the stakeholders within the logic" and I agree fully with you. You are a thinker in stories my friend.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 7 سنوات #8
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #7
Do you write poetry dear Laurent Boscherini? WIth such emotions you are apt to.
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #6
Dear debasish majumder- your latest comments on my buzzes are strikingly beautiful. This one is gorgeous. Yes, the pendulum doesn't move in a point attractor and it has to be dynamic. The land of knowledge is sandy and we may sink in it if we accept facts of today are invariable. Facts evolve as more scientific discoveries are made. We need, as you said, to break the shackles of traditional logic.
Laurent Boscherini
منذ 7 سنوات #5
more like tread in tranquility and serenity the other dimension that lies open before you in the many splendored achievements of an ancient and uninterrupted civilization, down to earth ;)
Ali Anani
منذ 7 سنوات #4
What a paradox dear Laurent Boscherini!. Dry humor (dry ice) in an wetty and witty way expressed. Your poetic comment is music to the ear.
Laurent Boscherini
منذ 7 سنوات #3
Ali Anani
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Devesh 🐝 Bhatt
منذ 7 سنوات #1