Finding Answers to Simple Questions

Finding Answers to Simple Questions

Did you experience any of the following?

Β· Chasing a dream girl till she accepted you only to lose interest in her afterwards

Β· Chasing for a creative idea and once it sparks in your mind you didn't care to document it only to find that you have lost it

Β· Searched for a key and once you found it you misplaced it only to lose it again.

Β· Looked for connecting with a bee on beBee and once you succeeded you lost interest. By reviewing your contacts you shall surprise yourself with how many you stopped exchanging of comments and reading buzzes of bees with whom you had great interest before.

Β· You aspired to work for a company and tried hard to get a job there only to lose interest in it soon afterwards.

Β· Work so hard to lose weight and look in shape, only to lose your shape by gaining weight again

Β· You dared to invest in the stock market and made huge profits only to lose it and feel the agony of your losses.

Β· Your company tried hard to reach profitable customers and finally it succeeded only to lose those customers soon afterwards.

Β· You tried hard to quit smoking, but then you started smoking again by losing your willpower

Β· Had health problems that forced you to quit smoking. Once you felt better you started smoking again.

Β· You had illusions about something and once you discovered the truth you felt you became wiser. But then you lost the truth and went back to your illusions.

These are few examples of things we try hard to find and then to lose them. The amazing thing here is that we humans try to avert losses, but then we lose what is good for us. Why do we insist on doing the wrong things when we know the right answers? For example, we know that creative ideas have short life spans; paradoxically, we keep ignoring recording them on the spot and only to feel their loss and regret afterwards. This causes us to suffer and yet we continue repeating the same.

This reminds me of a buzz that my friend David Navarro LΓ³pez wrote on forging of characters. In cold forging we change the shape like we change our shapes by exercising and dieting. Cold forging may lead to revert to type. It is hot forging that introduces new characters, new behaviors and new us.

I wish you would help me and others find answers to my question. I promise not to lose you for whatever feedback you may contribute

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David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

4 years ago #72

#93
Done and shared https://www.bebee.com/producer/@david-navarro-lopez/the-navarro-loop

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#94
Erroll -EL- Warner- you remind me of it is not what you know, it is more whom you connect with. Yes, when we have no passion for the customers we lose them.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#91
David Navarro L\u00f3pez- celebrations my friend

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#90
Full of gratitude to you Franci Eugenia Hoffman

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

4 years ago #68

#47
Navarro Loop almost done....

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

#87
Thank you, perfect tie in with our current discussions.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#88
Dear Sara Jacobovici- I am not less exited than you are to read those inspiring exchange of comments. Like you, I am pondering on those emerging ideas and I am so happy that we are all learning from each other. Yes, the complexity of movement needs to grow like tree fractal. I am joining you in pursuing this issue.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #65

#85
#86 Thank you Ali Anani's insightful comment. I feel like the equation is branching off into one of your tree diagrams Dr. Ali. Franci, you're introducing an important aspect of the movement or action in that its not necessarily linear or consistent. And the chemical example you give Dr. Ali is very important to better understand the process that takes place. What this leads me to think about is the x factor, so to speak, in the human equation that influences the direction and duration of the action. This factor is probably related to motivation and motivation can be further reduced to meaning. Much to process and think about. Very exciting. Thanks to you both for including me.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

- Franci Eugenia Hoffman- just to alert you that I mentioned you imy buzz of today: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/bebee-is-to-engage-with-passionate-curiosity

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#85
This is a great example of evolvement Franci Eugenia Hoffman. So, there this the drive to take action and the drive to maintain it. In chemistry, reactants produce the products, but then the products regenerate to the reactants. The equilibrium constant is what tells us how far the forward reaction goes. By the same token, we need to increase the equilibrium constant between what we get and the tendency to revert to type. A great observation , indeed. I tag Sara Jacobovici to this important comment.

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

#80
Absolutely procrastinating, Ali. And there could more than one reason why, which the main reason is most likely fear. Fear of failure, fear of weight gain, fear of change in persona, fear of nervousness, which all can be related to quitting smoking. I agree with the modification of the equation. I believe there is a third part of the equation, which I will leave the pondering to Ali and Sara. The equation KNowing X Doing = Movement or Action should include maintaining. I knew I had to quit smoking (knowing) X I quit smoking (doing) = Movement or Action (quitting) but I started back smoking so I didn't maintain my movement or action. I quit smoking 3 times before the final. I was not a heavy smoker, it's the motion that I was addicted to. I still use e-cigs and with no nicotine. So, the point I am trying to make is once you move or take action, you have to stick to it or maintain it.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

The idea was very clear to me Sara Jacobovici, which resulted in my writing a new buzz as inspired by your formula.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #60

#80
I think this may be one example of what I was trying to communicate Ali Anani.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #59

#79
Your point Ali Anani is a very valuable observation. You are making me think of how to clarify my point. Maybe I don't understand the concept of zero well. For me, there is something that occurs from just knowing, but that is not necessarily an action and there is action without necessarily having knowledge. In this way, there is still something there; a form of knowing separate from action and a form of action separate from knowing. Sorry for not being clear.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #58

#77
My mistake of using the wrong symbol Ali Anani. I didn't mean it to be seen as a division but a words that can be interchangeable. Maybe using and/or would make more sense?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#71
In addition to my two previous comments I find the equation of Sara Jacobovici offers a new definition of procrastination. It is knowing, but not doing. For example, if some knows smoking is harmful and this person still smokes then s/h is procrastinating. What do you think?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#71
One more point Sara Jacobovici. You wrote "KNOWING + DOING = ACTION/MOVEMENT. If we just know, that doesn't always lead to doing". This means that the equation needs some modification so that if either knowing or doing is zero that outcome should be zero as well. So, I suggest KNowing X Doing = Movement or Action. This way if one is zero the result is zero as well.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#74
Joris Plaatstaal and say you whispered the right message to yourself.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#71
#71 Thanks dears Sara Jacobovici for your clarification.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#70
Praveen Raj Gullepalli- you are an author of gems such as "And Change is ever at work. Aligning and realigning our paths and thoughts". Your other gem "And sometimes you come back to things, having found the golden mean of moderation! I think the best thing is to fully absorb, appreciate and live in the present. As much as possible. Knowing that it too shalt pass! :). Only if the present would become the ast next second. I say that the present is the transition between past and future. Or, it is the bridge between the past and the future. The stronger the bridge is, the greater the bonding is.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#69
Great and creative expression Deb Helfrich for highlighting this term. I wonder what do we whisper to our bodies!

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

#71
Thank you Sara and I agree KNOWING + DOING = ACTION/MOVEMENT.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #50

#65
Great perspective and great share CityVP Manjit. Thanks.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #49

#60
Crucial point re knowing versus doing Franci Eugenia Hoffman. As action/movement is crucial in all aspects of our lives and you mention the movement of regressing and maintaining and I can add being stuck as a cessation of movement, you have inspired me to think for the first time of an equation for human movement: KNOWING + DOING = ACTION/MOVEMENT. If we just know, that doesn't always lead to doing. If we just do without knowing, this will prevent advancing in the doing. But if we know (and I think this needs to come first) and do, this combination can spark the momentum that will lead to action/movement. Thanks Franci.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #48

#57
I consider this a Deb Helfrich quote, "The more curiosity we apply to becoming our own body whisperers, the better off we will be in the long term." Love it Deb! "...our own body whisperers..." Thank you.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Thank you dear CityVP Manjit for your splendid comment and I eagerly loo forward to reading your feedback tomorrow. Snooze happiness

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #46

#66
Dear Ali Anani's buzz.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#65
CityVP Manjit. I wish your time would allow you to read the comment of Harvey addressed to me and my response. This is very interesting for me because of your admirable comment here and what beautifully expressed "The one measure of value in being stuck in a cobweb of media and attention is that we are trying to free ourselves, rather than simply be consumed in that web. It is better to wriggling with life, then completely wasted in the web of non-life". The link to Sara's buzz is: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@sara-jacobovici/developing-a-tolerance-to-negativity#c9

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #44

It is easier to get stuck in a cobweb of routines then it is to spin new webs. What is the web we are spinning here other than that which captures experience and wonder. Our minds once caught in the rut of predictable patterns and same old, same old may look for relief of temporal novelty but all of this novelty seeking is upon a web woven by others - and we soon tire of these new experiences. The one measure of value in being stuck in a cobweb of media and attention is that we are trying to free ourselves, rather than simply be consumed in that web. It is better to wriggling with life, then completely wasted in the web of non-life. The Web of Life is wholly different proposition to the Web of Non-Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLiRXM2oZ_U

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#63
Knowing without acting is a recipe for failure. I agree with your comment Sushmita Thakare Jain. Thank you for commenting.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#60
Thanks Franci Eugenia Hoffman and you know I am in agreement with your comment. Knowing and doing don't always go hand in hand. We know we need to drink plentiful amount of water on a daily basis, but how many of us act accordingly?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Nikki Petersen wrote a buzz by starting it with "A post from @Ali Anani brought DΔ…browski to the front of my mind today". This led to her publishing a thought-provoking buzz titled ".Dabrowski's Sweater" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@nikki-petersen/dabrowski-s-sweater I invite you to read Nikki's buzz because it makes you think and encourages you to think have nw thinking to design your sweatre to your taste. A worthy buzz to read.

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

Knowing what to do is part of the battle. Doing is another part of the battle. You may think by knowing and doing, you have licked the problem. But, the most challenging is maintaining the knowing and maintaining the doing. It's easy to slip back into bad habits and we have to stay strong. IMO, there's no black and white, it's gray and depends on the individual and their willingness to win the battle.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#57
Your "stories" make me realize that I am not alone experiencing the same thing. Yes, the wisdom is our bodies and our failure to give it the right interpretation. What to add to your great comment? It is wisdom with the right interpretation. Yes, both of you "Debs" have an integrated insight.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
Deb Lange- first pleaseallow me to congratulate you on your mind-boggling buzz (the link in your previous comment). I have shared it and commented briefly on it for a reason. You wrote "often our questions are more complex than we realise". I wrote a presentation on "The problem is knowing the problem". And if we know the problem by focusing on it we may affect it and see it differently. Yes, I am happy with this idea. As for connection with nature, you know that we are on the same boat.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#53
Thank you Deb Lange will read and comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#51
Deb Helfrich- your concluding paragraph reads "We don't insist on doing the wrong things with the right answers, our unconscious simply keeps doing what it does, until we can integrate our conscious desire to change with the programs that we run that were installed in us at a very young age". This is what makes me wonder if calls to forget the past are realistic. Our past is ingrained in us and mostly dictates what w do. Again, a topic that needs more probing.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#49
Deb Lange- first, would you kindly share here the link to your buzz. I make an effort to read all your buzzes because they are relevant and insightful. I hope not to miss any buzz of yours. Back to your comment- you wrote "I am sharing this in response to your buzz as most of us in current society have been socialised into being compliant. I think this socialisation almost kills off our natural instincts of curiosity". I agree and we trap our minds in compliance. Rightly you said that we kill our instinct for creativity. Conformity and creativity and their relationship is a topic that warrants further exploring. I am deeply grateful for making such a rewarding comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#48
Deb Helfrich- no question that whenever you comment you throw new lights. This comment touches my heart and your analysis of my uncles' story id amazing. Yes, sometimes we feel the power is here when it is somewhere else. You remind m of a visit I made to a dentist. I pointed to him the teeth that was painful. To my surprise it wasn't. It was another teeth that caused the pain. I am saying sometimes even our conscious might lead us astray on top to what you mentioned in your comment. Yes, I am not less happy than you are with the quality comments this buzz has drawn. They make me think to and "use my own thinking equipment". How true you writingSo complex in fact, that they often will do what they say they want to do only for a short time and then abandon that path for a newer, shinier, or more rewarding pursuit. Curious practice, indeed" is. You enriched my mind.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
I hope this shall result in action my friend David Navarro L\u00f3pez "I'll keep "ruminating"....

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

4 years ago #32

#42
Dear Ali, you overwhelm me. The Navarro Loop has its name because you gave it. The core of it has been inculcated in me by my parents, and never before I thought on putting it on words. Those things are obvious to me, because of the education they gave me, not because I read it. Is going to be difficult to put a life long teaching in a buzz, and yet, you are right, I am thinking about writing it since the first time we spoke about it, as somehow it seems to me childish, but I can promise you this: I'll keep "ruminating".....

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#39
I wonder if you had the opportunity of reading the two earlier comments of Nikki Petersen on this buzz. The two comments reinforce this one. They feedback to each other. The trick is to find ways of keeping that newness excitement- this is a magical formula. If reactants lose their excitement they don't react. We need to keep tem in this state. Scientifically, mentally and emotionally I love your comment. You had a great grandfather.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Again, I tag the name of Sara Jacobovici. I thank you for your solid contributions.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#38
Dear Mohammed Sultan to respond first as she is more involved in this comment than I. Ialso suggest that you read her buzz of today as you shall find it very relevant: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@sara-jacobovici/developing-a-tolerance-to-negativity

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#37
Dear David Navarro L\u00f3pez- you recall that I promised to write a buzz on The Navarro Loop. I expected you to refer to it here. You did and with the most clear way possible. You extend our understandings of the value of your loop. I suggest based on your comprehensive response here that you write a practical buzz on the Navarro Loop and enrich it even further with your sharp thinking. I shall not be surprised if you are doing this already. Believe me it is worthy. I greatly appreciate your comment and shall defer my buzz on your loop till you have written yours. Please do.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

4 years ago #27

Dear Ali, first of all, thank you for mentioning me in your buzz. To the core of your buzz, and to your final question "Why do we insist on doing the wrong things when we know the right answers?" I would say the following: Let us see again the Navarro loop: "Perception/knowledge/beliefs/action/reaction/perception" On your example about smoking, once the smoker felt better, started to smoke again. He perceived he was bad, became the knowledge of the doctor, (did not believe it but he did anyway), acted stopping smoking, he felt better (reaction), but as he overviewed the most important step, believing, he smoked again. One thing is knowing. A very different thing is believing in what we know. In my youth, believe it or not, I had a very difficult character. My typical reaction under stress was anger, bitter words, bad mood. I knew it was not the way, but I did it anyway. Only when I realised that people did not want to talk to me when things went wrong, scared of my reaction, and started to be put apart on main decisions, then I understood I had to make changes in the way I reacted. Then I noticed I had to be aware of the reactions my actions caused. Then, ultimately I believed that reacting bitterly when things went wrong was not the way. I knew, but until I really believed it I did not make the needful changes. You can apply the same process to all the examples you have given, and see what happens. For example, about the issue of misplacing the keys. Only when you believe you need to assign always the same place to the keys to finding them, then the issue will be solved. Believing is as well a matter of discipline, they go hand on hand.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
Using senses is what the mother eagle does Sara Jacobovici. I wonder if the mother eagle wouldn't allow the nest to become dirty the baby eagle would still fly. I appreciate your feedback on this and I shall do some search to try to find an answer. I respect your view.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #25

#33
#34 I appreciate the concept of providing a source of force for change Ali Anani and the example in nature of the mother eagle creating a sensory message to tell her babies its time to fly. But....the babies are innately programmed to recognize the clean smell of being taken care of and the pungent smell of time to fly off. With all due respect Dr. Ali, this is not necessarily force. And Jean, I have a hard time with the idea of people being motivated to change under force. I would lean more towards Carl Rogers idea; β€œThe curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change.”

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
- you remind me of the mother eagle not cleaning the nest so that its baby is forced out of the nest and fly. The mother knows that being comfortable will not make the eagle try flying. If this prolongs the muscles shall be weakened and the baby eagle shall never be able to fly. To hot forge the baby eagle to fly, the mother stops cleaning the nest so that it eventually has a pungent smell forcing the baby to fly. Yes, sometimes we need to force people outside their comfort zone to make them do what is good for them.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#31
Thank dear Tausif Mundrawala and I truly look forward to reading your buzz. You have a great potential.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
Beautiful and deep your comment is dear Mohammed Sultan. I love your comment and find this extremely enlightening "We don't also have a fixed road map or a fixed trend in our brains,but our thinking stretches in all domains altering the map and the course of the trend continually throughout our life span". You really read my mind and what I am going to discuss in my next buzz. Your comment puts me on the correct roadmap. I am so thankful to you.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#27
You give the cure in your comment dear Tausif Mundrawala by your writing "You need to have a spark but that is not enough until and unless you learn the art to keeping it ignited throughout your journey in this world". Yes, you bring a hugely important issue on how to keep the spark igniting. This is a topic on its own. Your experience must be so enriched. I am glad the buzz appeals to you. I am very thankful for writing with such sincerity.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#25
@Harvey Lloyd- please allow me first to tag Nikki Petersen to your wonderful comment. I to subscribe to your choice of "or inward questions answered by inward discipline". Your reminding me of my photo with my daughter is the proof as I enjoyed very passionately this reminder. Yes, we are to serve each other. We are molecules that serve each other to improve and produce a better quality of the . This resonates so strongly with me and your writing "I can be successful within serving others" falls on a listening ear. Those discussions have influenced me so deeply. Somehow, the idea of we are molecules and therefore how much our behavior is influenced by what molecules we have in our bodies. I am searching this now, and I hope to share my findings in the next buzz. With all honesty, the comments here influenced my thinking beyond imagination.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #19

#12
This discussion seems to focus on two very specific theatres Ali Anani, @Nikki Petersen. Outward answers to inward questions or inward questions answered by inward discipline. I subscribe to the latter. This discipline though comes from somewhere, it is not created or invented but is more a calling to a set of values that we test everything against. If we look at the questions that are being asked, we can outwardly answer them through the mechanics of understanding the human experience. But what if we changed the question would they be answered? My existence is predicated on my success or my service to others. Two very distinct concepts. My success pits me against others at some crossroads, establishes competition at others and finally i may succeed but can i live with the consequences? I can be successful within serving others. Based on the picture you posted Ali of you and your daughter you have experienced the deepest sense of serving others. These questions and others are questions of distraction. They distract us from the true goals of serving each other. While i suffer from performance anxiety as presented by media i can not serve others. I will never make the cover of a glamour magazine. Maybe hillbilly weekly. Our weight should moderate naturally if we seek service to others. Our skill development will not wane if we use the skills to serve others. Your gift in sharing the complex natural world to compared to humans will be your goal that answers all the other questions.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
As for your second comment Nikki Petersen in which he classified the phase of our growth starting from dependence when we are children developing into independence and finally maturing into co-dependence. I wonder if for gifted children what co-dependence or inter-dependence may mean. Like you wrote, "Dabrowski said this is good! This is your golden opportunity to pick up the pieces and create something new and unique -- your own self-concept that is not made with someone else's ideas, but your own". You answered somehow "and the gifted individual is frequently unable to deeply connect with others because they're constantly asking questions that no one else wants to ask (nor do they care about the answers)". You make me even wonder about myself by asking if I am asking too many questions and if I am seeking answers. You truly got me thinking even of my own self. I can't thank you enough for writing two wonderful comments.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#20
Your two comments are gems Nikki Petersen shall be very interested in your comments because you highlight some of the points they remarked in their comments. I am not less interested and find your comments valuable. As for the gifted and talented people yes as they become restless and their joy is in exploring more, discovering more, imagining more and learning more. But, I would love to know about those people who are less gifted- do they leave what they gained out of what? This is a question that you got my mind percolating about.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#19
#19 Your comments are truly mind-benders Sara Jacobovici. You really got me thinking. Your cartoon example reminded me of a car accident that happened to my uncle. He was driving his car while asleep on Al-Moujib valley in Southern Jordan. The valley has a deep cliff. My uncle slept and his car wend sown the deep valley. Only next day a car noticed a man trying to get out of his car and my uncle was then rescued by a helicopter. He had only few bruises. Had he realized that he awaken while his car was falling down he would have died due to a heart attack. This is a real story. It reinforces your comment ad that we are made of polarities. You wrote "One of the things that make us complicated is that we're built to transcend function. We have imagination and we create. At the same time we destroy and at other times we repair". Yes, we tend to destroy what we build. What pleasure that gives us I don't know.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #15

Another "mind bender" Ali Anani. You are an observer extraordinaire to human behavior. You observe and ask the most important questions about what you see as common human behaviors. One of the things that makes us complicated is that we're built to transcend function. We have imagination and we create. At the same time we destroy and at other times we repair. Why we do what we do , or not do, defies logic. A lot of it is tied up in fears that go beyond the boundaries of fear as communication of threatening situations to help us respond in an appropriate way to the threat. Fears that are formed through individual experiences and to which we attach meaning. As well, we are made up of polarities that place us in a state of tension. For example, the need for familiarity and predictability and the need for novelty. In terms of defying logic, I was reminded of (I apologize that this is a very American example) "cartoon physics". In the Roadrunner cartoon, the character runs off a cliff but doesn't fall until he realizes that he has actually run out of ground and is floating in the air. If he hadn't had stopped and looked down and realized that he is defying physics by floating in the air, he could have technically kept moving until he got to the other side. I think sometimes we "regress" or fall, when we stop and think that what we're doing may be defying our meaning of logic.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

So, in a way this is balancing fear of failure and fear of success Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #13

#12
I am scrolling up this wonderful discussion, liking comments and responding directly to some....and I haven't even arrived at the top to comment on your buzz Ali Anani. Again, reducing my possible answer to your deep questions in its simplest form would be to look at our fear of success. We often talk about fear of failure but don't give its "opposite" equal time. This fear can attribute to these behaviors that don't make sense in their own right.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#14
A new idea is emerging- what meaning do we give to what we do? I find this idea mentally provoking. I need to think more before I respond, but again you ignite my mind with your depth.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#13
This is a valuable comment Sara Jacobovici. We are pain seekers. What a great thought this is. Do we enjoy the pain of losing much more the joy of winning? This is a paradox to think about deeply. Do we draw attention for us by being in pain? What could be the roots of this? Again, I find no answer.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #10

#10
Extremely evocative and thought provoking questions Ali Anani that go right to the core of what makes us human. Of course there is no simple answer. But if I had to come up with one word to look at the why, I would say meaning. Why we do or not do something is directly attached to the meaning it holds for us.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #9

#3
What throws a wrench into this discussion @Max Carter is that along side, "we are pleasure seeking creatures", is that we are pain seeking as well. Humans are complex creatures. As much as we want to live in a black and white world, we are thrown into its various shades and then told to swim.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#11
Harvey Lloyd- you take me in deep waters to dive and mine the gems in your lovely comment. Two points captured my attention in your deep comment. These are: We can't eliminate paradoxes unless our soul is feed in such a way we can attain faith I have not mastered this but have experienced/read enough to know paradoxes are the product of a mind that has lots of time. You really got me thinking and stretched the muscles of my mind. Faith is surely a great attribute. If so, why do we lack it? If I try hard to lose weight, for example, and I enjoy what I labored for then why do I revert to old eating habits? How about the effort and energy that I put to achieve what I achieved? Do I forget the effort once I am there? There is a lost key to the lock and I am searching for it. Why A mi locking myself in old habits when I have just started to enjoy the outcome? Is it that my mind has lots of time? I told you my friend that you sent me deeper in the sea of asking.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #7

Your title is deceiving Ali Anani, being the deep ponderer you are. I believe as you know the questions are not simple. But belie the human existence that is so elusive. Trees do not have a soul as humans do. This allows them the opportunity to experience survival of the fittest. Humans in this capacity are seen as monsters. It is our soul that creates the paradoxical questions which you seek answers. Now soul can be explained by sub-conscious or conscious minds that can see the future of any given perception and judge. Paradoxes emanate from right and wrong as we perceive the future. Either for ourselves or mankind. We can't eliminate paradoxes unless our soul is feed in such a way we can attain faith. This faith is really personal and not a faith of mankind that i refer. A belief system that allows us to act in accordance with something that doesn't change or evolve, but carries the essence of the human existence. Through this, we can obtain faith in our own destiny. Through this inner experience we can remove the paradoxes of living. I have not mastered this but have experienced/read enough to know paradoxes are the product of a mind that has lots of time. A few millennia ago paradoxes existed only at the aristocracy as the "living" were too busy feeding themselves. Your ponderings ignite my thoughts of the world where we live. Thanks.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

debasish majumder- my friend you bring a hugely interesting point. DO we allow fear to control us? Why do we find courage and then lose it to fear? This is a core question and you bring a hot issue and there is no way I shall put it in a basket of ice. Your comment here invites for more discussions and feedback my dear friend. We have the power to adapt, be resilient and be flexible so why succumbing to fear?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#7
Thank you dear debasish majumder for your great appreciation and for your mentioning the opposites of cold and hot. As much as your point is excellent and viable; still you perplex me more. Doesn't what we aspire for is a hot issue and then why do you feel cold once we get it?! A lot to think about and I am deeply appreciative of your comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
It is great to read your comment dear CityVP Manjit for I know you are busy with other issues. You never disappoint me and I shall buy the book You are a moving reference. Yes, what perplexes me is exactly what you outlined.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #3

Dear Ali Anani, this buzz reminds of the book by Alan Deutschman called "Change or Die" http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51369.Change_or_Die - in it he offers a similiar tract but from the view point of a choice about change. This is one of the great foibles of the human spirit where people end up choosing making the irrational the rational choice - which of course is perplexing to observe in the general population, especially if we have individually chosen to choose the road towards higher purpose/value.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
The feeling of content is a sound idea. I truly wish readers would comment on this enriching comment Max Carter

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
Max Carter springs to my mind.

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