Got an idea- what Ideas Are?

Got an idea- what Ideas Are?

My recent exchange of comments with Sara Jacobovici rekindled my interest in ideas and their actuality. Are ideas matters or are they flow? If ideas are matter they go in cycling from one matter to another. If they are cycling then what type of cycles are they? Do they go have their patterned cycles like we have a nitrogen cycle, water cycle and so on?

Ideas are flow have their supporters. For example, in the Ricardian model the endogenous engine of growth is the flow of ideas. Ideas are assumed to diffuse by random meetings where people get new inspirational ideas by learning from the people they do business with or compete with. I believe that customers are also a main source of exogenous ideas and those interactions with customers keep the flow of ideas coming in. Ideas are the sunshine flow that helps in cycling matters into different products. Or, are ideas not this or that, but rather both: energy and matter? There are advocates that ideas are both. The neurological process by which ideas are created, stored or spread to others is a combined process of energy and matter. Similarly a star, an ongoing gravity-driven fusion process is a combination of energy and matter. I say that if ideas are flow of energy then as we talk about conservation of energy could as well be talking about conservation of ideas?

There are many metaphors that treat ideas as matter. We say broken ideas, heavy ideas, light ideas and shadow ideas. However; few thinkers have extended the consideration of ideas as matter. For example, - IdeasΒ areΒ likeΒ chalk marks: as simple as they seem, knowing where, when, and why to use even the smallest ones can make all the difference.Β Ideas Butterfly Effect may be noticed if ideas are put in the write contexts. Another interesting view is that ideas are like balls. On your own, you simply cannot get a full understanding of the ball because you will never be able to see it in its entirety. I call this the exchange of perspectives. Everyone sees one side of the ball and a partial view shall not represent reality. We need a continuous flow of perspectives (sunlight) to uncover the unseen part of an idea ball.

We say ideas come to fruition. Great, but what kind of fruits are they such as in what shape? If they are balls-like then we fail to see their full image. Are these fruits vitamin-rich, mineral rich or energy rich? May be they taste sour, but we need to remember that sour lemon conducts electricity and may kindle a battery. Will ideas be the source of energy flow to convert other ideas matter into something else?

Got an idea- what Ideas Are?

How about imaginative ideas and or do we classify them? This is another story. I was thinking about the shapes of molecules and the shapes of leaves and if they are related. Being rugged serves a purpose. This turned not to be a fancy idea. Recently, researchers synthesized a rugged molecule that is able to store huge amounts of data. Molecules can remember. They have huge memory storing capacity. They are the storage for the flow of information. The imaginative idea turned to a product that matters. Are then imaginative ideas the illumination flow that convert matter ideas to substantial matters?

What are ideas in your view?

I dedicate this buzz to a great thinker who has his bag full of ideas. I dedicate it to Mohammed Sultan


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

DILMA BALBI The first time I disagree with you. You are a powerful commenter and your comments carry your wisdom and language shall not stop your natural flow.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Beautiful link . If imagination brings ideas beyond our current reality then creative shall help in making them real.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#43
Dear friend siraj shaik- you continue to amaze me with your great manners and support. You are very special friend.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#42
Dear Fatima Williams- reading your comment filled my heart with gratitude. Your understanding, your acknowledgements and tying ideas to gether are simply superb. Yes, it is having people like you and Sara Jacobovici that make writing a pleasure. I am awfully grateful to your sound comment.

🐝 Fatima G. Williams

🐝 Fatima G. Williams

4 years ago #30

Your idea, is like the drop of water that falls on the leaf and how the veins magnify and so my thoughts magnify with imaginative ideas. You wake up the sleeping ideas in my head and thank you for that. Its like Sara Jacobovici said " We have information in our subconscious that may be "illuminated" by imagination, and in this way "bringing to light" or consciousness that which was being held in the subconscious." Her comments are like her " Out of the world"( love the explanation there) The comments on this buzz are more illuminating that the buzz itself because this buzz has so much going on. My head is just processing all the information. Ideas to me are like the the waves of the sea. Some waves are big ,some a small and sometimes one wave engulfs the other. But the waves never stop coming back. Thank you for this intruguing buzz Dear Ali Anani.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#36
Harvey Lloyd- I am responding now even though I need more time to digest your deep comment. Like photons, ideas abound but as a species we have to choose what and where we will place energy- his is a deep thinking. I plan to respond soon in a buzz, but for now I want to register my appreciation for your comment and in particular to the ball example and how you expanded on it giving it a new meaing.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I concur with your comment dear DILMA BALBI. Just before reading your comment I was reading comments on few of my buzzes just to see how comments apppeal to me. Few comments grabbed my attention even much stronger than before. I felt the attraction to them and my self identity changing. These are not passing thoughts, but more of rooted ideas now. BTW_ it is extremely rewarding to go back and read some of your comments on different buzzes. It is amazing how new ideas emerge. I wonder if dear Sara Sara Jacobovici has tried it as well, but like old roots giving life again so is re-reading your comments.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#36
Dear Sara Jacobovici- I call use the The Thinker, but now I call you The Beautiful Mind. Your comments and examples shine with beauty. I am writing my next buzz on sound bubbles and their significance. From soap bubbles to sound bubbles there is a huge journey that is consistent with your comment. What you wrote "Once I move past this the energy required grows exponentially. Like the lioness summing up its prey, it has to choose where energy can best be focused". Bubbles do the same and I love your beautiful comments. They have their distinctive wave pattern.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
I am glad you liked the probing comment of Mohammed Sultan. It is an illumination. The triad consisting of myself, my vision, my customer is a powerful one. One issue that you may wish to tackle in a dedicated buzz is the relationship between my vision and the customer vision. I am sure you have a lot to say.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #25

Ali Anani Ideas are energy created within a network of energy. I agree that we should look at ideas as tangible even though they reside within an energy field. Nature is efficient. The shapes and designs serve to conserve energy in executing life. Like nature our ideas should seek to do the same thing. Ideas should include a efficient design. The more energy we have to use to either build or maintain an idea will determine its success. Using the ball analogy we can see that the ball is 360 degrees. Energy needs to increase the further I move from my perspective. Say I am at 180 degrees with an idea, I can form influence in a diameter of 20 degrees. Once I move past this the energy required grows exponentially. Like the lioness summing up its prey, it has to choose where energy can best be focused. I introduce this because an idea is a random photon unless we add energy. Like photons, ideas abound but as a species we have to choose what and where we will place energy. Nature lacks consciousness so efficientcy is its only focus. Our species has consciousness which allows us to (good or bad) discern. This discernment is leveraged on our perceptions and mainly our fears. The energy of an idea can be foreshadowed by our perceptions. A stack of 2x4's is merely lumber until a carpenter applies energy to build a house. Ideas are similar to the 2x4's merely lumber until energy is applied. This gets into a larger discussion about influence vs control. That is for another day.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #24

#33
Thanks to Ali Anani. Your last sentence, "The light inside us and the vision we created for our companies should be targeted toward the darker spots in customers mind.", is a very powerful concept. For me it forms the triad; myself, my vision, my customer. If I hold a clear vision of what I/my company is all about, I am then able to "see" the need/dark side of my customer/marketplace and fulfill that need in the most successful means possible. This results in my customer/marketplace being illuminated and in this way spreading my vision for all to "see" and be drawn towards it. I wonder, Dr. Ali, if this is a potential subset in the formula to success?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I am sure Sara Jacobovici. You know a crazy idea came to my mind and it is timely as it relates to my next post. Spherical bubbles get this shape because it is the shape of least energy requirement by having the least surface area. Now, I think because of your comment and Sara's comment their is a hidden reason- to not see the whole ball and that we must be illuminated from within us, be ready to rotate the ball (bubble), look at different perspectives, imagine and listen to other peoples' vies. It ball shape is the test if we can do that. So, I love what you wrote dear Mohammed "ideas are the lights of our paths and our journey ,so we should stay plugged in,change our batteries to turn on our light in the dark side of the marketplace".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#31
People eat sweets after dinner. So, your comment is the sweet having enjoyed a dinner of 'heavy" comments dear Mohammed Mohammed Sultan. You have contributed with your comments to the idea of this buzz and I am happy it pleases you. I do appreciate your kind and warm words. I say thank you for being so generous in sharing your views over the last year. Keep well, my dear friend.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #21

#28
Dale Masters, we all have the potential to imagine the "unimaginable". What happens is that we see people emerge from that sea of possibility and experience an Einstein in science, a Beethoven in music, a Leonardo Da Vinci in the visual arts (an integrator of arts and science to see things that only later were realized), a Jules Verne in literature and so on. Even a Gene Rodenberry who imagined (in 1966 about the 24th century) in his TV show Star Trek the fictional Dr. McCoy using a device called a Medical Tricorder which now seems to be making its way into our present reality: "ContinUse Biometrics’ biometric no-contact sensor β€” based on technology developed over a decade by Bar-Ilan and Valencia universities β€” can detect heartbeat, blood pressure, breathing pace, glucose level, oxygen saturation and alcohol levels in the blood of a fully dressed person without touching the person." http://www.israel21c.org/12-israeli-sensor-technologies-that-will-rock-your-world/ We are all made of the same "stuff".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
Dale Masters added beautifully with amazing reasoning why both knowledge and imagination are senses. If our understanding of quantum physics is limited to five people on earth then it reflects on our inabilities to imagine what doesn't exist now. Does complexity limit our imagination when we tend to think logically and with limited understanding of many topics?

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

4 years ago #19

#14
Being curious ignites creativity...It is what dreams are made of. These unseen forces (or frequencies) are what we are made of. You are absolutely right Irene Hackett, in order to "tune in" we must first become self aware of our own natural abilities as multi-dimensional beings. Far out huh? BTW...I was a serious "Trekkie" back in the day;-)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#24
That is a surely good way dear mohammed khalaf

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
I shall touch upon some approaches in my next buzz, but later will dedicate a buzz to this topic Aurorasa Sima. I give one example now. Eye glasses are great tools for improving our sights. Just take one lens and put it on the other and you have a mini microscope. It is imagination curiosity combined. We see a drop of water on a leave and can see how the veins of the leaf get magnified. Many people pay little attention. We need that drop of water to magnify our senses, observation while igniting our imagination.

mohammed khalaf

mohammed khalaf

4 years ago #16

inoculate between the cultures is increase fruition by increasingly and get more ideas.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#18
The moon example is superb and the analysis you provide are extremely illuminating. Dear Sara Jacobovici your comments and buzzes are a source of illumination. In fact this adds a new weight to solid comments as they become the flow of illumination. I really wish to read what other commenters have to say about your definition and role of consciousness. i see that the buzz on what are ideas is also bringing another worthy discussion and I would love to read more comments on this issue. I am waiting for your buzz because I am sure it shall add a new illumination for us. Just as I am writing this response an idea crossed my mind. Illumination from sunlight serves different illumination from the moon. Are we talking then about different illuminations? Your comment got my head even more spinning now.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#17
Sara Sara Jacobovici- I assure you that my head is spinning too. The comments open many new windows for looking at ideas and what really they are.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
ANd in the deep sea illumination is a problem as well dear debasish majumder. Your question is legitimate. May be marine plants guide us to new ways of generating ideas. An idea that is surely worthy of pursuing.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#15
Thank you Aurorasa Sima or asking a great question. I promise to answer you in a buzz that I shall dedicate to you

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #11

Part 2/2 "Only one side of the Moon is visible from Earth because the Moon rotates about its spin axis at the same rate that the Moon orbits the Earth, a situation known as synchronous rotation or tidal locking. The Moon is directly illuminated by the Sun, and the cyclically varying viewing conditions cause the lunar phases......[O]ne reason that the far side of the Moon is frequently referred to as the "dark side" is because many people mistakenly think that it never sees any light from the Sun. In that sense the term "dark side" is wrong and misleading. In fact, since the Moon is constantly rotating on its own axis, there is no area of the planetoid which is in permanent darkness, and the far side of the Moon is only completely devoid of sunlight during a Full Moon – when the Sun is facing the Moon with the Earth in between." http://www.moonconnection.com/moon-same-side.phtml Basically, the "dark side" is a term we have used because it is not seen by us from here on earth. Even the full amount of sunlight can not help us see that other side.We need a spaceship to propel us in order to actually see that other side. Or...our imagination and so, as you ask, "Are then imaginative ideas the illumination flow?" With my answer being a resounding yes. In response to your question in comment #10, "if subconscious is the imagination that turns imagination into a reality". I like to think of consciousness as a separate entity that can be influenced by and can influence imagination but as a secondary process. The primary function, from my perspective, of the subconscious is to hold (information) what we do not or can not hold consciously. We have information in our subconscious that may be "illuminated" by imagination, and in this way "bringing to light" or consciousness that which was being held in the subconscious.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #10

Part 1/2 My head is spinning Ali Anani. Your Buzz takes me in and out of "cycles" and "patterns" and the discussions this Buzz has produced is sending me into altered states of consciousness. My only contribution, at this time, can be from the perspective of the following: "We need a continuous flow of perspectives (sunlight) to uncover the unseen part of an idea ball.....Are then imaginative ideas the illumination flow....?" In my future Buzz expanding on the topic of shadows, I include the following discussion on why we refer to the "dark side of the moon (like your ball example).

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

4 years ago #9

#12
You may choose the frequency which best suits you in any given moment...Right or wrong is irrelevant as there is no such thing;-)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#11
Great and I agree Cyndi wilkins. So, you suggest through intuition we may choose the right frequency? This is quite interesting.

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

4 years ago #7

#10
...I believe Mr. Einstein says it best with this... β€œEverything is energy and that’s all there is to it…Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but create it; This is not philosophy, this is physics” The sub-conscious mind then is the intangible realm where we all reside. All of our thoughts are working together to create what we experience as our physical reality. It is then up to us to choose which frequency we would prefer to align with. In every experience we are given that choice. We receive guidance through our God-given gift of intuition...It would seem most wise then, to begin to tune into that rather than being led by the forces outside of the self.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#9
Cyndi wilkins- this is an interesting view. I wonder if subconscious is the imagination that turns imagination into a reality. ARe we not then using our subconscious frequently enough?

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

4 years ago #5

I believe ideas are a manifestation of the β€œcollective mind” and this beautiful matrix through which we are all connected. Only when we are able to "tap into" or transmit these β€œinner images” of our sub-conscious mind are we able to bring them into physical expression in the conscious realm. So you see, everyone can be an Einstein. It is all a matter of which channel you choose to tune in to;-)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

seet comment- I meant sweet comment in my previous comment

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
My sweet sister Irene Hackett- seet comment yours is a like honey. You asked rightly "From whence did the 'idea' come that produced the energy that flowed into the creation of first life forms? Did the 'idea' exist before we existed? Could this again, be consciousness that always was, always is, and always will be? This is a deep question and I am stranded by it. Ideas that flow with their energy...so ideas are energy in flow. You make me think. If ideas stop, their flow stops and products will stop.Is this true? I need to think again. Your sweet comment is being fermented to alcohol and I am too drunk to think now.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
" It puzzles me. We are not our ingredients. I am my ideas. My ideas define me. What am I made of then? I think you hit the ONE question"- and now you hit me back with this comment Peter van Doorn. It puzzles me. We are not our ingredients- wow- and a lot to think about. Water is its ingredients, but it behaves totally differently from its hydrogen and oxygen ingredients. Are we behaving differently thna our ingredients are or, we aren't our ingredients? The journey started.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

"Testing philosophy with scientific results"- what a great way to put it Peter van Doorn! Very pleasing comment to the mind. Where energy and matter are interchangeable. (wave-particle duality)- so in a sense ideas are both energy and matter. A dey battery is almost energy so ideas aren't batteries> You got me thinking

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