Introvert or Extrovert- which is better?

Introvert or Extrovert- which is better?

We are living in the age of increased tension. This is manifested in many facets of our lives such as:

Β· Less time

Β· Less employee loyalty

Β· Less employee engagement

Β· Less passion for work and increased turnover rates

Β· Leadership of control and more control and less room for creativity

Β· Less tolerance

Β· Less owning of a technology and more throw-away of fairly recent products to buy new ones

Β· Less stability at work

Β· Less β€˜durable” marriages and increased cases of divorce that exceeded marriages in few countries.

Β· Less focusing and increased interruptions

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Increased tension brings us nearer to the bifurcation point and we find ourselves progressively moving towards more bifurcation that eventually leads to chaos.

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Which path to take among the available ones? The β€œtension of choice” is increasing at an alarming rate. Not only that, but also the β€œtension of unpredictability” is also increasing.

In these turbulent circumstances- would it be better to be an extrovert or introvert? What brought this question and even the idea of this buzz is the extraordinary quality of comments exchanged on a previous buzz of mine between the brainy Harvey Lloyd and Louise Smith. In one of her comments Louise wrote:

5 Myths
1.Extroverts get energy from social interaction while introverts get energy from privately reflecting on their thoughts and feelings.
2. Introverts are plagued by public speaking anxiety
3. Extroverts are better leaders than introverts
4. Extroverts are better networkers than introverts
5. Extroverts are better salespeople than introverts

Louise cited the link for further elaboration:

https://www.quietrev.com/5-myths-about-introverts-and-extroverts/

The above comment came as a response to an earlier comment by Harvey in an answer to a question I addressed to him. Harvey wrote β€œIntroverts focus their energy in the subsystems of social activities, seeing the people, relationships and the story behind the story. Extroverts focus their energy on the next thing or activity while working in groups. The details of the group are not typically thought of by extroverts, they see the whole and its journey. Introverts expel energy within the activities while extroverts get energy from the activities”. Harvey is stating that introverts are exothermic whereas extroverts are endothermic. This is a paradox which I haven’t thought of before. Introverts release energy to the environment. Self-organizing reactions get energy from the environment to release it. Do we need more introverts so that our chaotic lives may self-organize?

A new thinking is emerging. Hearing the word introvert might give the false feelings of passiveness. If all people were extroverts and take energy from the environment then introverts are the balancing factor by releasing energy to the environment.

May be the answer is not being an introvert or extrovert- more it is being both by bifurcating from one to the other as situations unfold. It is being BOTH extrovert and introvert. This reminds me of using the left mind (logical mind) or the right mind (creative mind). Why not both?

I shall enjoy your comments on above issues.


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ELIZABETH ROMERO

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David Navarro LΓ³pez

6 months ago #270

I know some sociopaths they excuse themselves by saying they are introverts.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #269

#310
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee When you hit the "home button" that should take you to Discover (all recent posts) but on the top left of that page is the "share buzz" "write an article" Then you click "write an article ... After you publish ... on the top right there are 2 small icons to the far right of the title (one looks like a tiny trash can ... the other looks like a tiny pencil - if you click this it will take you to edit mode - make corrections - add or change images etc) these 2 icons (buttons) are only seen only by you as writer

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#309
Fay Vietmeier My good friend- I have the same issue with the home button. That little house-like icon. I want to scroll for fear I am missing a grand post, but there are now few of them.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #267

#308
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I will confess my dear Professor that I rarely look at "Discover" ... so if there are ads this bee has no interest ;~) ... in one way a genuine post should shine ... stand out from That is my hope ... "if you build it ... they will come" ~ the field of dreams ... non-professional ... self-promotion posts reflect poorly on the writer posting them and on this platform for allowing it

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#307
Fay Vietmeier You don't give up my friend. I adore your persistence. With honesty I say that I was glad that I couldn't publish! So many ads were then published that I felt embarrassed to publish on this platform. One good post and twenty ads. I am not sure this is not a good estimate.. Let us hope for better things to come.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #265

#306
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee ... I swear ;~) the devil plays with us in ways that are unique ... to each Try with text only to temporarily publish ... ... then use the edit button to add in the images I'll still look for you on LI my dear Professor ;~)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#305
Dear Fay Vietmeier Many thanks for commenting and for your reference. My dear friend- I managed as per your suggestion to add one image to my post this noon. It worked. Then as everything was ready I pushed the publish button. It doesn't click. I tried in vain for few times. No success!!!I ended up publishing on LinkedIn.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #263

#302
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I'm glad what I suggested worked ... my dear Professor Reinforces your recent posts about "simplicity" ;~) I shall look for your post on beBee later today ... I have appointments first and Your LI post on Truth "Is Truth Difficult to find?" ... have had it pulled up for awhile ... along with Edward Lewellen post "How we decide what Truth is" ... I have had lengthy comments regarding "Truth" recently with Steve Anthony on LI (speed&motion/"Being Tuned")

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#300
Fay Vietmeier Again, I agree with you. These irrelevant comments are excessive luggage and I wish we could unload them (delete them). I wish Javier \ud83d\udc1d CR would enable writer bees to delete such comments.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#300
Dear Fay Vietmeier I tried copy and paste instead of insert and it worked. You are amazing. I shall share a post tomorrow on beBee. It asks a question why governments keep procedures comples such as filling tax forms? Why many businesses prefer complexity over simplicity and even chaos over simplicity? The answer to both questions is the same. I hope that the copy and paste shall work tomorrow and not fail me again like the insert did.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#301
Fay Vietmeier Thank you and you are a source of inspiration for me and sure for many others as well. I normally post by linking the image to beBee. Now, I shall try to see if copy and paste shall do. I am going to try now. Thank you for your concern my good friend. You are absolutely caring.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #259

#300
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee You are most welcome on the share ;~) As I type, I notice the number of comments ... 300 While I've been on beBee (about a year now) ... thought reaching 100 was good ... drives home decreased engagement Anyway, we must always do the best we can with what we have ... this is a LIFE principle Note my comment to the spell caster below ;~) ... one of the many bee-predators and bee-promoters I share your frustration about the challenges you are experiencing with beBee ... presume this relates to images? Have you tried copying the images 1 at a time ? (this is what I do) Can't (for example) ... if working from a Word document (which I do) ... select "all" ... then copy to beBee ... I copy the images within the text ... one at a time ... where they belong ... review ... then publish I think I'm both: exothermic or endothermic How about you mt dear Professor?

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #258

#299
Ann Earnis Dear Ann ... this is not the appropriate place to share the casting of "spells" I'm glad you "got your husband back" .. but if was was by a spell cast ... how long will that last? You are unknowingly cooperating with dark forces "casting spells" is witchcraft ... I would encourage you to come into the Light β€œBe very careful, then, how you liveβ€”not as unwise but as wise. Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visibleβ€”and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. This is why it is said: β€œWake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” ~ Ephesians 5 ~ ... We choose darkness or light ...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#296
Fay Vietmeier My dear friend- I greatly appreciate your beautiful reshare of the post. Thank you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#295
Fay Vietmeier Oh dear- you remind me of one of my commented on posts. Yes, Harvey Lloyd is a great thinker. I am glad you highlighted his comment. I tried to publish a post today on beBee, but in vain. I published a brief of it on LinkedIn. It is about fractals. I plan to publish next week as a full post. To be natural is to be fractal. This is the theme.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #255

Are you exothermic or endothermic? Introverts expel energy within the activities while extroverts get energy from the activities”

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #254

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Great post my dear Professor ... I happened upon this with thanks to @Larry Boyer .. I am sharing with the hope it adds to the rich comments Almost 300 ;~) Rich insight by the wisest of bees Harvey Lloyd and Louise Smith In particular, liked this point: "Introverts expel energy within the activities while extroverts get energy from the activities”. Harvey is stating that introverts are exothermic whereas extroverts are endothermic. This is a paradox ...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#292
Deborah Levine Nothing pleases my heart as reading a comment like yours. If a post of mine maybe of help to you or others than I am genuinely satisfied. I deeply thank you for sharing your feeling post to your reading this article.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#290
Appreciate your feedback and I am happy with the work you do as outlined in your link. Keep healthy.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#288
I agree and I add it is better to be both

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#286
My pleasure Luke Visser Chappaqua

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#284
So nice dear Bill to remind me of the buzz that ranks No. 2 in number of comments among my more than 260 buzzes for beBee.

Bill Stankiewicz, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

Ali, Thanks πŸ™ again for sharing your article here. πŸ‘πŸπŸπŸ

Bill Stankiewicz, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

#274
great job on e book too

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#280
Absolutely correct. This is the reason I added the chaotic bifurcation image in the buzz.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#278
Great point Preston \ud83d\udc1d Vander Ven- it is not always better to be one; more is to be both as needed. Good point

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#276
My genuine pleasure Pepper Rutland. Your comment is special one for me because it is the first from you and it reminds me of a buzz that I wrote a while ago and I enjoyed tremendously writing it.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#274
That is very kind of you Jennifer. I shall read the book and give my feedback very soon. I appreciate your kind words and faith.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#272
Thank you dear Jennifer Leach-Trask. Could you please provide the link to your e-book?

Federico Álvarez San Martín

#263
Hi, All the comments are in the article. If you have a problem, let me know. Best regards.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#268
Thank you Larry Boyer, \ud83d\udc1d Brand Ambassador. I am encouraged by your comment to re-discuss this topic again taking into consideration the valuable comments here. I also appreciate your sharing the buzz.

Larry Boyer, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

A thought provoking look at introversion and extraversion from an entropy/energy stand point. What do you think?

Larry Boyer, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

A thought provoking look at introversion and extraversion from an entropy/energy stand point. What do you think?

Larry Boyer, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

A thought provoking look at the two. I like it! It's hard to say how such energy flows in the universe, but it's an interesting thought from an overall social context as well as a person one for maintaining balance in our life. I've shared it around.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #236

#261
#265. The archetypal intro/extrovert in very basic terms describes where you draw energy. Introverts draw energy from deep thinking and understanding. Where extroverts gather energy from social settings where ideas are openly discussed Both are each if they have balance. But for me introvert long discussions in large groups drains me. Where my wife is only getting warmed up at hour four. Take some time and look up he two from the Myers Briggs perspective For me it helped me a lot my time more effectively. Also it helped in who should direct the situations.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#263
I add my voice to yours

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#261
It is an amazing coincidence that the comment of Jerry Fletcher coined in her comment on that buzz the term negative love. That brought in some very interesting comments. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/coming-out-stronger So, Anti-vert is a challenging term. I invite Harvey Lloyd to comment on this for he made great comments here.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#262
Great point Lyon Brave

🐝 Fatima G. Williams

🐝 Fatima G. Williams

3 years ago #232

#254
cc Federico \ud83d\udc1d \u00c1lvarez San Mart\u00edn Can you tell me how I can view the rest of the 200 plus comments I don't see them below. Is there a way for one to download an article they produced with all the comments so such errors don't occur please advice!

Lyon Brave L

Lyon Brave

3 years ago #231

we live in an extrovert world, but it is the mind of the introvert that feels life with magic

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #230

Dear @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I hope all is well. Great post. I would like to understand more the new way of thinking. Is there room for an Anti-vert: one who acknolwedges the shortcomings or challenges of both types and uses wisdom as a virtual medicinal means to offset and balance the symptoms. A Uni-vert: one who can leverage the best of both breads to advantage. An Exo-vert: one who acknowledges the internal differences of an intro and extro and effectively dwells within an overarching shell of something bigger than the individual, larger than the global and embraces the cosmic to become bigger than they are?

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

3 years ago #229

Dear Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I hope all is well. Great post. I would like to understand more the new way of thinking. Is there room for an Anti-vert: one who acknolwedges the shortcomings or challenges of both types and uses wisdom as a virtual medicinal means to offset and balance the symptoms. A Uni-vert: one who can leverage the best of both breads to advantage. An Exo-vert: one who acknowledges the internal differences of an intro and extro and effectively dwells within an overarching shell of something bigger than the individual, larger than the global and embraces the cosmic to become bigger than they are?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#258
balanced view

Lyon Brave L

Lyon Brave

3 years ago #227

I like the introvert i like the extrovert

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

You are as natural as waterfall dear Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee. It is always my pleasure to hear your voice.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#253
thank you dear Randall Burns and it is great to read your comments again.

Randall Burns

Randall Burns

3 years ago #224

Wow! Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, amazing that your 1 minute article is generating hours of reading in the comments, I better get a coffee... Well done Sir!

Randall Burns

Randall Burns

3 years ago #223

Excellent article @Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee , I will be rereading this and digesting. Very thought provoking and it makes sense to me

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#249
Thank you Paul \. you are correct. The discussions are in conformity with your comment. But it amazes me how simple questions may lead to so many discussions. Linking communication style with the purpose of a meeting, a customer or team member must be based on the understandings derived from your comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#248
"Over my lifetime I have now developed ways that I gain much energy being in my own company and with Nature and spend much time alone"- by Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee. My published buzz of today addressed the theme of your comment. It is amazing as if you read my mind. Be Natural is the theme and I believe the buzz addresses your comment even before you published it.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#247
Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee- the discussions here are in great conformity with your comment and mainly " along the introversion extroversion continuum". The discussions focussed greatly on the need to understand the style of communication and to appreciation the identity of all persons involved. I go along with your comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#245
so we have very close profiles Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador. I am 51% E. Amazing

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

My results from the test are 55% extrovert. :)

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

#238
I will look for the link and love your idea of writing a buzz on this buzz. The content of your post and the comments are excellent.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#242
I love your engagement and the free flow of expressing your feelings towards others openly and honestly my dear Lisa Vanderburg. You are a great human.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #215

#237
I am too touched by your words to see what I'm typing, most adorable Cyndi wilkins: just look at what your creation has allowed - take comfort and praise from all your hard work! We are all so different, from so many different walks and phases of life, yet here - we are free to be companions and friends that will last! Gobsmacking, eh?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#239
how about intent plus purpose combined dear Lisa Vanderburg? You say faith and yes we need to include this as well.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#237
thank you Cyndi wilkins offer the magic formula.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #212

#223
Amen brother ! Faith (not religion) is something....possibly the only thing I think can bring forth permanent and solid change!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#236
with all honesty I was hoping you would noin the discussions Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador. I am so glad you did. I am like you mixed. You may do an online test if you wish.I gave the link in one of my recent comments. I am so happy to say that the discussions are ao rich that I am tempted to write a buzz on this buzz.

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

3 years ago #210

#218
I think Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, what you do for others as a result of your experience with your husband is a testament to a woman of enormous strength and and an endless capacity to love;-)

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

Wow, 232 comments! I'm sorry I missed this but I am this post and comments immensely. My two cents on the subject parallel the statement by Pascal Derrien "I am hybrid, I am both apparently I can come across differently depending on the situation", which I feel the same way. Bravo, Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee on an excellent post.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#232
you do what you say and very truthfully Harvey Lloyd. Look how you carry discussions forward. You are amazing.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#233
It is comments from the initiator of beBee that fuel us. Thank you Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. No other platform gives attention to the bees as much as beBee. My devotion to beBee is unquestionable my friend. I have not written for any other platform since joining beBee. The truth is that beBee is the one who is irreplaceable. Together we move forward. I am totally touched by your kind words. My gratitude also extends to all bees who turned this buzz into minfdul discussions.

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

3 years ago #206

Wow 232 comments. Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee you are an irreplaceable bee. Please never forget we need your sweet honey on beBee

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #205

#231
It has been stated that the formula really applied to infinity, but the word had not been coined yet. I believe the context is we should look for ways to open dialogue and not always throw up the stop sign. It is not to say the stop sign should go away, but rather reserve the sign for when it's appropriate.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#230
nust wonder my good friendwhy seventy times seven. Why not 55 five times five? Why these numbers- well zi remembered the cigarette brand Yes I am like you I could go maximum of five times but then...

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #203

#229
This is the attitude we speak of as we try and understand our own profiles. You are a good man. I believe i read a book, a bestseller of all time that referenced we should forgive seventy times seven. I am good for three or four, but i tend to strain the system after that:) Nobody's perfect i guess.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#228
that is a positive signal Harvey Lloyd. To express themselves without asking them means they may be ready to change. I don't mind giving them a third chance in this case.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #201

#227
Given our gift for the auto response can wisdom dictate we give them a second chance by not sharing our own? Many new relationships have formed because i gave someone a second chance of expressing themselves. Not sure if i triggered but certainly gave the opportunity to see me differently.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#224
so you triggered them to change from within Harvey Lloyd. You convinced them and it eas their decision to change. Do you agree?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I meant stay for long

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#222
extrrnal forces bring transitory changes dear Lisa Vanderburg. Afterwards revert to type. Unlike changes from within. They stsy for long.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #197

#222
When we think no one cares we develop a pov that we exact on others. So in our travels throughout life when someone acts this scenario out, we can call poor customer service, or we can let them know we care. I always enjoyed managers that did reviews or interventions from the perspective of witnessed poor performance. I handled a few for them in the hopes to inspire them to empower our employees, some got it some didn't. I always engaged in these setting with discussions about our values, goals and roles. Then asked the individual how they felt they fit and their performance to date. Some were rougher on themselves, some thought they were perfect. I would alway return with what are some areas you would like to tell me about at our next meeting that you have improved. I would get the feedback set up meetings that helped them achieve that goal. They left fired or empowered. No in-between. My managers had a hard time breaking from the traditional professional seek and destroy and motivation by fear. This required a POV that everyone is worthy of the opportunity of my faith in them. I could not give it if i communicated fear.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #196

#222
For me i find it difficult to find character change through what man presents. Bias is ever present. That being said i would say that a faith journey offers a way to change our life patterns. The term external force is confusing. Life is moving between external forces in one context and in another life can find external forces of change. If you seek change though, leave no stone unturned. Seek and ye shall find.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #195

#220
Makes sense...I can agree with that. So your saying basically that you adapt your POV depending on circumstances; a transient sniffing of the air, if you will. Do it myself (but not as well as you, I suspect!). Now in #219 Ali says, 'We shall not change unless we change ourselves. No external force can do that.' Is that all encompassing? Is that 'true'...for all of us? I'm not sure. Look at 'prison faith-conversions'. Not all of those are fake - makes sense that a lot are real changes. It is an external force that wrought change, aided albeit by actions of our own making. Of course, I'm now leaning far outside the boundaries of I & E......

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #194

#215
We can adapt with fear to the shark or fish. Or get the grill ready. This is the choice.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #193

#218
I believe we are able to meet challenges on the river of life in one of two ways. Adapt our profile to the change or adapt the change to our profile. One involves the review of change and determining where you fit and executing, the latter is forcing the change to go by your rock. Our character can evolve but our response to situations can change with merely acquiring a new POV. My character is the same but my response has changed. You enter an establishment with a purpose. The sales person looks at you like you just crawled out from under a rock and says may i help you? Now my auto response is to educate the person on the finer points of sales and how they must have missed the class. But lets look at this with a perspective instead of auto response system. 1.The clerk has just left the boss's office and has lost insurance. 2.They are sick and had to come to work because they are hourly. 3. They just got grades for how to be an ass class and they failed. Give these three potential POVs does it change how you would respond? For me it does. I can't know the right one without speaking first to what i saw and seeking understanding. My opening comment in this scenario would be "rough day today"? The next answer should give me what i need to act on the right POV. None your _____business would reinforce my auto response system. But just maybe i could get them to see the error of their salutation.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#218
dear @li!a v I am giving you a short answer because I believe firmly in it. We shall not change unless we change ourselves. No external force can do that.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #191

#214
Yessir...you are right, Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee below may address some of that. So, a question for you my friend: do/can we instinctively wrought change in order to change ourselves, or is it just random. So are able to 'change their minds' with a solid and long-living ability, most are not so successful. I used to think I could do/be anything; I know different now. Love to hear from Harvey Lloyd about that too...?

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #190

#216
Thanks delightful friend Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich; your candor is disarming...it gives me pause. It makes me think deeper of how our 'view' can gradually (or quickly in rare circumstances) can lose it's hue over time and experience. I think some of us wrestle with ourselves - certainly, I do, almost all the time. Trying to contain the very dilemma of one's own life within the text of I or E or DiSC for that matter, is impossible. As a HSP (which frankly, I feel I should be, but ain't), what would life be like say, 100 years ago? Even 50. Has the www. 'enabled' some freedom for both I's & E's equally? I suspect no. Does it even have a bearing here? Web aside, I know that the 'closing of many gates' personally will lead to loneliness eventually. I suspect my 'behavior' will too. Worse, I can see me becoming as complicated, overbearing, insufferable (at worst-case) in my dotage. I hope not, but how much choice do we really have.... Great mind you have there, lady Deb!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#213
may be a fish or a shark? The experience and challenges shall be different.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#210
our perspective changes as well. Is there any real change without chaning thinking? Our thoughts lead to our actions. Now the question is how deep the change is? Going back to your previous comment Lisa Vanderburg your eye balls are the same , but now you use them (action) for different purposes. A mi right?

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #187

#207
Good point Harvey Lloyd! What's in the water with us...that changes over time...scary..

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#209
unfortunately we got connected.too late. Fourty years ago would have been a different story Lisa Vanderburg. I doubt if I could have run away from your eyes. To admire is to stand for what one admires.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #185

#203
#204 Yeah...funny that, John: why did ours say I and others say E? Curious....

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #184

#200
Perhaps the question is, 'what changes?' Expect the answer is life and longevity. If you lose a limb, that will effect things for a while - 2 limbs, a lot longer, etc. But that's just physical stuff. Rolling over the psychological as well as the physiological...the possibilities are endless, no?

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #183

#199
First of all, I absolutely promise not to burn you with my eye-balls Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee - EVER. That said, I understand fully that if...say, dogs smell fear, humans do too (at some base level), so as a small child I decided to fear nothing. This worked for at least 40 years. Now I do the eye-ball thing just to stop complete strangers from running across the street to tell me their life-stories. I've always attracted them. More irritatingly, they always go away happy! Tsk!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#207
I agree without any reservation. Thank you Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #181

#202
Time is the water upon what we sit. We may not move but it does. So yes change is coming whether you wish it or not. Accepting the challenge that life is fluid changes how we approach the unknown. When we feel life is unfair and we can't keep up then the fluid dynamics works against us.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#205
you hit the "targrt". You scored

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #179

That's O K. If it had been I and you had got it wrong then I would have kept quiet, but since I'm slightly in the E I put my head over the parapet and took a potshot at you.#204

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#203
I am sorry John Rylance. I stored your result in my mind as 24% I and not E. I am so sorry.

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #177

I'm a bit confused. (Nothing unusual) @Lisa is 28% I and I'm 24% E. We may have things in common but not a lot #201

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#193
This is an interesting point Harvey Lloyd "The idea is not to change but rather engage on this river we cant stop more effectively". But if we engage we might change. Is this true? So, change is coming any way.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#195
I wonder John Rylance have few things in common. Lisa is 28% I and you 24% I. Would close Is (eyes meaning introverts and not physical eyes) have few things in common?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#198
I wonder if any body has taken the test over the years and tell us how his test changed. You know Lisa Vanderburg we may this way have an idea about people and how they changed. if people change, the results would then at least partially reflect where they changed. I have noticed some of my colleagues who were extrovert, but then "the wisdom of life" changed them to introverts.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#197
Your say you are 28% I and so you are more of an E. I think this is reflected in your desired answer " 'I ALWAYS made eye contact to recognise friend or foe. If foe, I'll set fire to them.' You make eye contacts first and so you are observant. However; observation is followed by action and this is the E part of you. Your writing style is also consistent with these observations. I tend to find your test reliable. I feel you are looking me in the eyes dear Lisa Vanderburg. Ready to wear my safety glasses!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #172

#193
Did you do the test Harvey Lloyd? I agree it's all down the river - fluidity. If I had taken that test in say, my twenties, the results would have been quite different - same with every other decade. There again; ALL my doctors say I'm crazy :)

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #171

#192
LMAO at that test... I got: 28% introvert! But the range of answers were too narrow for me. Like this one: 'How does making eye contact makes you feel?' I had to answer 'really nice - I like to smile at people.' What I really wanted to answer was 'I ALWAYS made eye contact to recognise friend or foe. If foe, I'll set fire to them.'

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #170

#191
Love the link Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich...but what about 'surf n' turf'? :) I totally get your drift and I can see where your coming from; particularly relating to the world of sales! I couldn't do it either, it would take more that a big fat E to allow me to be successful in that field. I'm musing....maybe because my I and E have altered over the years, that could be a reflection of perception and not necessarily reality? You make me use my noodle....VERY good thing!

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #169

In answer to the two questions Yes andYes. I did the test and am 24% extrovert. I agreed with the assessment that followed. A thought maybe we like/agree with the tests which match our perception of ourselves. Perhaps we should ask someone else to answer the set of questions based on how they perceive us, and see how close the two outcomes are to each other.#192

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #168

Debbie, youre occasional bout of extroversion does not alter your personality. What it does do is alter/enhance others perception of you. It's an example of playing to your strengths. If you were totally introverted then you would be a very one dimensional character, which you definitely are not. #191

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #167

#191
You and i share some commonality (introvert). But the reality of this post and thoughts surrounding DiSC. is the fact we must, will engage socially/professionally, in our efforts to provide food clothing shelter. If we could see life and time as a river and we float upon the surface. The river never stops moving. We will encounter life. The idea is not to change but rather engage on this river we cant stop more effectively. This was a tough lesson for me to learn. This did not fix everything but did help me find boundaries, directions and most importantly stop taking natural things personally. And...be able to separate natural developments from manipulated ones. By no means an exact science. But does help us get on the other side of crap happens.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I respect all views expressed here and on LI. There are lots of varieties and finding a solid proof is out of my reach. It is being an introvert or extrovert? Can we be both? Is each type of the same color intensity? Is there a scale to what degree a person can be whether extrovert or introvert? In one of my previous comments I estimated myself to be 60% extrovert. Judging fro the way I spend my time I came with this crude estimate. It turns out not to be extremely crude. I found a testing side to approximate how E or I a person can be using variety-styled questions. Here is the link: https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexfinnis/what-percentage-introvert-or-extrovert-are-you?utm_term=.alMP9nklPg#.pdMmg50QmX I share my results with the readers. I have nothing to be ashamed of and this is the way I am now. You Got: 51% extrovert! You are a mildly strong extrovert, which means you get your energy from spending time with other people, rather than chilling out on your own. You like to keep busy, and spending too much time by yourself leaves you feeling bored and quite down. While you love spending time with just a couple of your closest friends, you probably get even more enjoyment out of hanging out in slightly larger groups. You are not averse to taking risks and enjoy trying new things. You also like to have choices and can be quite spontaneous when you want to be. Do you believe in taking these tests? Do you find them of interest?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#189
please do read the comments. If compiled they shall make a great document in bettering our understanding of human behavior. The fact your comments show is your engagement Melissa Hefferman. I am truly happy to observe this.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#187
thank you Melissa Hefferman. Believe me that my mind expanded because of these lovely discussions. ~ learnt by experience when to be an introvert by listening and thinking before opening my mouth.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#185
I did mention the same in some of my comments Melissa Hefferman. Adaptability is a key factor. I must add that the adaptability range lies within being very introvert to being very extrovert. This is the available swing range. Now in between those extremes we may adapt as needed. Rigidity is not the solution. I concur with you and I truly appreciate your comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#182
a gun with two eyes is better than a gun with one eye. I agree with you Tony Delorto. Yyou remind me of scissors as they only work in pairs.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #161

#122
Back to you, darlin' Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich! I was intrigued by your answer here....takes me AGES to work out what or why. I think is was this: 'I physically cannot quickly jump to conclusions, I can feel the reluctance in my body.' I leave the essential and obvious (firefighters, police, ER staff) out of it - the 'immediate-action' ones. Do you think this dictates one's future course in life for a HSP? Is that a 'bent' like an E may be? We are all products of...whatever we're made of, but you are the most flexible person I know; even in 'reaction', it's with wisdom.

Tony Delorto

Tony Delorto

3 years ago #160

A combination of both traits makes better

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#180
Would lovee a summary kof the talk once finished with it.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #158

#158
I'm only a few minutes into that Ted talks with Susan Cain, and I can't wait to hear the rest! That our institutions are designed for stimuli is then difficult for extroverts, yet that what we need! We very much need that time for introspection, and are rarely granted it as young'uns...that very pivotal juncture.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#178
@I am still bewildered by the quality of these comments my friend Lisa Vanderburg. I shall respond as soon as I have digested them fully.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #156

#152
WOW and #151 WOW...again! I think you may have been granted the answers you seek Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #155

#147
#146 John Rylance, this is a great point (sorry - been away a bit so I hope it's not out of context). No matter and I or E, you HAVE to listen if you want to understand anyone's POV. Those you listen best and leave gaps for the person to respond further, gain greater insight of the POV or problem.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #154

#145
haha....I've seen those :)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#165
I suggest then that you read comment #102 by Edward Lewellen. I appreciate your openess.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#161
I challenge if this isn't the way? Complex life dictates that we learn by trial and error.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#167
yourvsimple and eloquent sanswers are amazing. Are youu mostly classified as introvert for your answerd are short, but thoughful ones?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Jimi#169 simple; yet verywitty answer

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#170
' the happy emotion chooses

Eeva Maria al-Khazaali

Eeva Maria al-Khazaali

3 years ago #148

#168
answer your question on whose choice it is to be a certain way.

Eeva Maria al-Khazaali

Eeva Maria al-Khazaali

3 years ago #147

#166
"...I was born this way" (a Lady Gaga quote could do it).

Eeva Maria al-Khazaali

Eeva Maria al-Khazaali

3 years ago #146

The title of this article is rather confusing since it's rather questionable to ask which of human traits unchangeable to human beings themselves is better. I reconsider after your reply if I am going to read the actual article all in all.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#162
for me you have nailed it dowm with a great maturity Yolanda \u00c1vila M\u00e1rquez. Bravo. Very valuable comment

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#161
agree; however it is also the reacting in due time. Procrastinating action or a premature one may have adverse effect. I believe having a sense for proper timing is important.

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #143

Very few people if any are totally static in their attitudes responses actions reacting to each situation as it occurs. A response not necessarily the right one, but then that's how we should learn. #158

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#158
having followed these discussions thoroughly here I must say I am in full approval of your comment Yolanda \u00c1vila M\u00e1rquez. I am listening and being an introvert cabable of converting to an extrovert when necessary is very rewarding.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#157
this is an interesting comment John Rylance mentioned that she is almost an introvert exclusively. I wonder what Deb would comment. Please correct me if I am wrong.

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #140

#153
#151 I agree with the I E continuum idea. Like the Autistic Continuum we are all at some point on the continuum. There are times when we are nearer one or other of the ends dependent on the situation we find ourselves, hopefully we react in the right way. Yes we will tend by nature to be more introverted than extroverted or vice versa. However being a believer that in this case there are no absolutes, none one is either a total introvert or a total extrovert.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#154
absolutely. I am thinking on how to amalgamate your comments Harvey Lloyd. I sense good ideas shall emerge. At work now, but shall do later this evening.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#152
if i combine this great comment dear Edward Lewellen #151. Then we have a great communication ideas emerging. Wow as we are truly making great advancements. I need to be an introvert and digest your comment fully my friend. Thank you for broadening our scope. We need you around.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #137

#152
This is an awesome explanation of how we process differently. Very effectively you demonstrated these processing differences. The I and E is a macro look at these micro process. Knowing these differences can help us as leaders adjust our style of communications to be heard. Great stuff.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#151
great and I defer my comment till John Rylance has responded.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #135

#143
I agree with your sentiments but would suggest that when we speak of such things as character, profiles or the I E continuum we must add context. To be objective as we possibly can within this discussion thread. The I E continuum is discussed inside our choice of style within communications that have a purpose. This has been well discussed under this and other posts presented by Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee so i won't elaborate here. But what may deserve some attention is the contextual part of speaking of I and E. Sociologically we look at these two differently than we do within the psychological context. We also extend the context as we look at the strengths and weaknesses of each, polarize if you will. For myself when i hear discussions about the character/personal profiles i think about journeys of understanding how to communicate effectively within your purpose. Now, for sure i hear some who wish to place competition within the stereotypes and this is not what i sense was being researched. Using these labels to better our communication styles is the context that is for the masses of young leaders who are honing their skills. The profile is not a professional diagnosis of psychotic features. Although the same labels are used to describe the individual with psychotic features. From sales, to family dynamics we have a purpose that we wish to communicate. I want to learn the most effective way to obtain my purpose. Higher sales, children ready to face the world or maybe just relaxing in the backyard with family and friends. Purpose is the reason to communicate more effectively.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#148
yes and I am in full agreement with you. Your comment deserves attention because it works and answers the why.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#147
you are very observant John Rylance. I find that when I leave space to the readers to add their comments I get far more comments than those buzzes with little room for the reader. Asking questions is a great way to do this. I may have not done it intentionally, but I understand better now why.

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #132

I meant to add your approach suggests I desire to hear other points of view, as opposed to that so prevalent a while ago on LinkedIn, where posts were made stating facts to which any response by the contributor by readers of the post was studiously ignored.

John Rylance

John Rylance

3 years ago #131

You often have to be introverted i e that is listen, before you can be extroverted and provide meaningful appropriate answers. Knowledge and expertise can usually only be gained and improved by listening to others. As you are through this post Ali, rather than as so often contributors do pontificate, you gain more from posing a question, than you do from initially providing answers.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#145
thank you for your elaboration and confirmation Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris. These discussions taught me a lot. Sometimes I reffrain from responding till I gauge other replies and seek for more information. Soon I am publishing a buzz on the lessons I learnt from these discussions.

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

3 years ago #129

#144
Indeed! I'd argue that communication would be impossible without some introverted behavior from both parties. Otherwise, you'd have a situation like a Greek debate show, where everyone talks at the same time and no-one listens to what other people say...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#143
great insights Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris in which he liked acting introvert or extrovert should be done purposefully. I gave an example of negotiations. An introvert would observe, gather information, observe body language, pause and think. The purpose is to understand the position of the other side snd his intentions. Would you agree?

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

3 years ago #127

I agree. This false dichotomy only confounds the whole matter. Things may be one or the other when we are dealing with rudimentary matters (e.g. a woman is either pregnant or not, a person is either alive or dead, etc.) but for more convoluted situations, it's hard (if not impossible) to have a crisp answer. Besides, when it comes to introversion and extroversion, one doesn't exclude the other. Most academics tend to be introverts, yet they are fine with engaging with their students in the classroom, for example, or with other people from academia in a conference. By adopting a stereotypical approach to things we are only limiting our perception as well as the opportunities they may offer us.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#140
great advice

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #125

#122
Thanks for the link, Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich - I fall into the 'insensitive' category :) I owe you a much better response...so much to say! But I have to dash....back later, my friend!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #124

#130
The good thing about the hashtag Kevin Baker is: I'm responding directly to you, so once this posts, your related comment will highlight of you hover your cursor over it - you'll see your own question. Saves an enormous amount of time trying to locate to whom your conversing with!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#137
but your comments show you are thinking hard dear Lisa Vanderburg. I am certain that you read all the comments.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#133
thanks. The introvert part of you is reading and digesting the comments Louise Smith. I shall not be surprised to read thorough comments from you soon.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #121

#133
Well howdy there Louise Smith thought-tank :) My head would explode if I had to think that hard! You're a love!!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

- my friend being a senior man in accounting do you think that accountants need to be introverts? Are you aware of accountants who are extroverts and how they differ from introverts in doing their n Jobs? Thank you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#130
the issue is not with you but with the system. I draw the attention of this issue to Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#121
#122 #122 #123 #124 #125 #126 Again reply to a comment brings replies to earlier commentd. Dear Tausif Mundrawala- yes and I agree. Just think how often you walk into a lift and you see stern people who eye you with anger sometimes because you interrupted their journey. They make you feel unwanted. This observation will call for actions different thsn if you were felt welcome. We need first to probe the situatio6n no matter if we are E or I. Some people if they walk in the lift and find an important person inside will try to talk to him because they know their time limited to seconds. Either they talk or lose the opportunity. An I would not bother as an E would.

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

3 years ago #117

#19
Cheeky !

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#121
#122 #122 #123 #124 #125 I don't know why clicking reply brings so many comments numbers and not only the one I am rresponding to. Thank you my friend Edward Lewellen. I fully understand your clarifications. I need thojugh further clarifications. Do you consider a person who responds without observing or listening as an extrovert? What value this person adds? I believe now that both I and E share the same starting point. It is what happens next that makes the difference. An I will take longer times to respond or till requested to respond. An E is ready to ready to respond much sooner. In negotiations and to understand the intentionss an I would be a great asset in the team. Would you agree my friend?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#124
Joanne Gardocki I add my voice to yours. Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee has broadened the scope of these discussions

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#123
I would respond to your comment Lisa Vanderburg. I am thinking of drawing a heatmap of all the opinions here. I think the discussions have been so illuminating.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#121
Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich- these great discussions are truly interesting. Whay you say observe first. Haste leads to misjudgement. Whether I or E this is valid. I don't differ with you at all. Where the difference occurs is what follows next. An I would not voice opinion till after or if asked. They give themselves enough pausing time to search and study all perceptions. An I would speak soon after listening. As for those people who are talkative and don't observe and listen are not truly E. They are interruptors and use their energy in chaos. I often write as I did before responding to Edward Lewellen some breathing time to think. Iam I in these cases, but with shorter silence times than in your case. The intensity of my I color is less than yours.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#121
Kevin Baker- very interedting comment is binding selection with perception Harvey Lloyd called for the linkage of I or E with purpose. On LI Xavier gave a simple example. For summary of meetings select I. For engaging the meeting select E. Yes, you have supporters. I agree with you that that it is not who is better; more it is who fits the perception or purpose.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #111

#118
Wow....it's a powerful tool for you then Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich - I am not at all surprised, because you think deeply before you respond. This is not our of any hesitancy or ambivalence, but out of respect to the question and how your answer will serve it best. That separates you from most introverts; or am I possibly apportioning sense of self with introversion? I have so much more to say but must be a-bed or my leg will fall off :) Looking forward to more of your wisdom tomorrow, lovely friend!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#102
coming back to your comment dear friend Edward Lewellen after taking a pause period with myself. Studies say that the ratio of extroverts to introverts is in the range of 70%-50%. I don't know the reason why this range is rather wide. This is if we believe that introverts are not born, but are the results of life experiences. During my pause I focussed on kids who sprang in my head and who are devoid of significant life experiences being so young. Few names stood out. They all share same body language. They look with their eyes down when asked a question. They talk in low voice and give very brief answers. They hate open-ended questions. However; they are very gifted. They enjoy drawing and some of these are truly creative. They consume their energy in hobbies they enjoy. I am keen to read your response. I also address the same comment to Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#102
first I thank Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich. This is to acknowledge your comment for now. I wish to read the feedback on it. I have my own thoughts which I shall share in less than an hour.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#112
you are most welcome and thanks for sharing the link to your lovely poem having the same theme as this buzz dearvDebasish Majumder

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#114
famous for focusing our thoughtd- to this I say yes Lisa Vanderburg

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Thank you Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich. I am so glad to read your comment because you say who you really are- an introvert. I find your comments reflecting who you are. You have your authenticity. You don't impose yourself, but bravely defend your nest. The partioning of the whole such as the right mind and left mind. We are led by scientists sometimes andbwhst theyvsay become a sacred cow. You the whole brain is greater than the sum of its right and left. Only if the two parts talk to each other. However; it is up to us to some extent to make them talk to each other. That they don't sometimes is evidenced to me by personal experiences. No wonder the efficiency of using our brains is low.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #105

Good God woman....you made me look back at the BUZZ!!! :) Darlin' Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich, for an introvert, the wisdom and sanity you imparts attracts both hemispheres...at least in me. I'm fairly sure you keep your thoughts on others..less so on yourself, dismissing some of point 1. No? Could be wrong...FAMOUS for that! :)

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

3 years ago #104

https://www.bebee.com/producer/@debasish-majumder/introvert-or-extrovert-what-we-truly-need my heartiest tribute to my dear sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #103

Deb!...there you are Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich buzz. We have explored many faucets of humanity here today, and this HAS to be part of it! I remember my brother (a doctor) once examining openly the journey of genetics. He said something to the effect of, 'if you were to have the DNA of 'Adam and EVE' we [now] would be almost mistaken for a different species through degradation and mutation. BTW, he's a Christian, so he's not Darwinism. Love to hear your thought on this buzz and comments! Headway HAS been made, my sweetness!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#109
Harvey Lloyd- for me your comment is a roadmap. It is so illuminating. It is a treasure. Leaders should all use this map. How to bifurcate between being an introvert and extrovert is greatly explained in your comment. More you answer the why, how and what to do and where to do it at the right time. You give a new meaning to DiSC profiles. I dare say that even though you wrote the comment you learned from it. That these discussions resulted in such a great comment honors us all. This is the comment of the day.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #101

#103
I believe as we start a journey of self discovery we need to see the graph and placement is personal. A personal perspective if you will. Given time to emerge from thinking about that placement we should look at others and see how they would fit on the graph. Placing others allows us to form a perspective. Not good or bad. But for the first time we get to evaluate our environment from our own perspective and now with speculation of others. The third step is to try and see a event, situation or "Dilemma" from the others position. Again we are still in the introspective mode. We have not said a word. In the end what we are attempting to do is connect feelings and emotions with our executive functioning part of the brain, and disconnect them from the current limbic auto response system. In working with folks i usually get negative feedback as they sense i am cutting them off from engagement. This is not the goal. The goal is to get them to expand their ability between stimulus response. If we tie to our executive functioning brain we can now add purpose to our engagement which is always the goal. If the limbic system responds then i can't add purpose until i have been satisfied within that system. Which i am not sure that satisfaction is ever achieved. Clearly though purpose is never forwarded.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Honorably I invite you to join the great discussions here.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#105
it is the both the quality and quantity my dear Lisa Vanderburg. Thank you and I shall be willing to share whatever is shareable with you. You are an outstanding person. I hope you would respond to the comment of Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#104
at least to have the energy to travel 33% more of the distance to collect the nutrions in your very valuable comment Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich. Thank you do m\ch for commenting and enriching these discussions as well as providing the link to a very important buzz.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #97

#98
Honestly? Have no idea how you do all this...I can barely save a spider...that can take ALL DAY! But it's most interesting you say that you reckon you're 40 %intro & 60% extro. Not surprised that you know you own mind. If you find mine, I can be contacted at Web 8.90 where I keep my arachnids :) Well done, Ali! I'm up to my max: 26 comments to my latest, and here you are; over 100 again. If you ever need a brain-massage, I'll siphon off any detritus.... :)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#100
thank you Lisa Vanderburg. I voiced who I am and I hope you still be connected. Your sense of commenting with others show your combination of I and E Now you bring to my mind another issue. Do you recall my graph in a previous buzz linking I/E on the DiSC profile. I have new thoughts now on using these profiles. That you are both will place you on the graph quite differently from sombody who is very much tilted towards I or E. I wonder what Harvey Lloyd would comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#93
,efore reading your comment i posted my comment #98. I like so much your point of view linking E or I with purpose. I read my comment again after reading yours Harvey Lloyd and I surely agree with you. I am I when the purpose is imagination and coming up with creative ideas. I am E when it is socializing with the purpose to learn and exchange knowledge and experiences. Well-said my friend.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #94

#86
Faith: pure, simple and intuitive. Most important; respect and love. It may have been a bumpy road (certainly for me) these past couple of weeks, but now I'm seeing something that we all can equate to Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, me and Ralph are content!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#94
:))))

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

A friend of mine sent me a private message asking me to say openly whether I am introvert or extrovert. I share my response with you. I am both. I asked myself how often do I isolate myself from people and the internet including emails. I need to imagine, to think and ponder. I want to walk by myself. I don't want to be interrupted. I dare say 40% of my time. The rest I would like to engage with people to learn from them and their experiences. So, I say that I am 40% introvt and 60% extrovert. I hope I am clear enough.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #91

I commend and congratulate you for your courage and passion Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee, but most especially for your insight - getting involved. Your boy is becoming a man! This comes from the tiny pea who feed spiders :)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#92
sorry for the typos in my previous comment such as misspelling nutritional.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#92
amazing your comment is dear Debasish Majumder. Today Lisa share a link that Deb shared before on exactly carbon dioxide. In one way this gas increases crop producrion because plants use this gas in photosynthesis. On the other side this is on the expense of nutrients such as iron. So we have more crops, but with less nutrional value. I hope Lisa would share the link with us here. I am using mobile and it is not easy to share the link myself. You are a great thinker my friend.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #88

#82
he's under the desk with me...there's a really big spider called Ralph.....

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #87

#82
We can not expose ourselves as I or E until we understand the purpose. Before purpose i am neither and both. I don't get to deep into my label except as it applies to purpose. If it is date night with the wife then it is E event and i know the purpose. If we are in a meeting i can bring the inside the wave view and lien on those who surf well to provide their perspective to the purpose. The surfer and the wave are inseparable. One has no purpose without the other. Good leaders will always answer your question, i am both. But as we look at young budding leaders we need to help in separating the two while explaining the symbiotic relationship between both. To allow the media to describe the two is travesty. E environments are where we sell products and services. Its not where we live.

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

3 years ago #86

i forgot to mention sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee that, the increase of carbon Di-Oxide in the atmosphere, surprising plants are losing their nutrients and not supplementing the food for our convenience as before. naturally, their introvert feature are largely being affected. so, consequently it is directly proportional to their extrovert features too. i mean to say that external conditions are largely affecting the extrovert and introvert behavior too.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#90
you win Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. You are human and professional. Imean it by sayin human and not personal. For me as of now it is both human and professional

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

3 years ago #84

Everything will fall into place if you smile and are friendly to those you meet. People want to do business with individuals they like and trust. Your personal appearance, handshake and body language say a lot about how you feel about yourself. Focus first and foremost on being genuine and personal, friendly and establishing trust in order to build a relationship. Win-win relationships involve mutual give and take. Focus on giving first and you will reap the long-term benefits of a relationship that will give back many times. Are you focused on creating short-term associations or building long-term relationships? I LOVE THE LONG-TERM BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS.. and those ones often are deep relationships because we share personal time. I do love people.. because professionals are humans. :-) Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I LOVE beBee because I would like to meet you ALL !!! thanks ! have a great week !

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#88
how could I not enjoy beBee Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee may have different experiences and therefore differences shall emege. It is dealing with such differences in integrity, pride and passion to learn more that makes beBee a lively platform. On a personal level or on a professional level I say thank you beBee.

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

3 years ago #82

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee PASSIONS are the better way to make succesful business. here you are an example :-) https://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2013/04/business-networking https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/business/dealbook/cycling-matches-the-pace-and-pitches-of-tech.html Anyway, I am not here to convince anybody about the benefit of having and integrated online presence :-). You can be only personal, only professional, or both :-) Enjoy beBee !

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#86
it was an Indian thinker who wrote about the four cycles of society. Your thinking is close to him Harvey Lloyd. I shall deal with your comment in a buzz soon.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #80

#24
You introduce a social understanding of a complex issue. I hope i can venture off the path of current discussions to comment here. Society and religion have had a symbiotic relationship since the beginning of time. If not to explain science before we new or even to draw society back into moral alignment after the gasps of death from the Roman empire. Religion in its many forms has been called out when society has run amuck and discarded once we have found firmer ground. Unfortunately as we go through these cycles, man, not religion hold onto power pieces of moral authority. Then comes the splinter groups who wish to crusade for the oppressed. Then we have Rome all over again. A challenging cycle that it appears we humans are destined to repeat. I would propose that Religion offers us a moral authority that is equal to all. The interpretations should be appropriate and not include oppressive doctrines created by power brokers, on either side.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#81
as much as I am aware how busy Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#79
your assuring comment relieved me. Thank you Cyndi Docy

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#78
thank you Joanne Gardocki. Not in my dreams I expected this buzz would draw such great comments. I am sure you shall enjoy readinh them as much as I enjoyed reading yours.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#77
but where are you "crawling now" Harvey Lloyd? You broaden the discussions too. You have a great experience on how best that introverts ane extroverts communicate with each other. I wish you would elaborate more as we all need your experiences.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #75

#62
I believe that in some professional journeys, Coaching, consulting and professional writing beBee has a place where the whole person can exist. I also believe personal and professional don't mix well. A customer is counting on you to perform, any personal inputs that are to the contrary will be dealt with in the professional envelope. I have had an expression that has served me well throughout my small business journey. You don't poo where you eat. My customer needs what they need, my personal beliefs, journeys or understandings are not necessary for them to form an opinion. Some customers the professional and personal bonds develop. But this has to happen naturally. I believe some of the struggle with a social media site that wants to envelop the whole human experience will have to deal with conflicting views that get presented within your posts, the ability to limit viewing of various posts to a limited group with no sharing, Groups that have the ability to pre-approve posts and in essence the ability to separate posts intended for a few from the many. But this defeats the purpose. It is an experiment that i have enjoyed participating. But mine is all personal engagement.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#76
keep your fingers crossed dear -Lisa Vanderburg (if you still have them). You are a great spirit. Thank you

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #73

#57
I have always liked to consider that the two labels have two energy needs. One private and one public. But either participates in the others activities. If you watched me you would say i have both. But what i prefer is quiet time to contemplate the the E events of the day. For me the point of discussion is our preferenced should not be inferred on others during engagement. My favorite is when E tells me, hey come on to the party and this will all blow over. I think not. The opposite is true of E's I's shouldn't invite them to their sofa of discovery, they need people around as they crawl through some events life has dealt. They want to engage and hear what others think. You have broaden the discussion.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #72

ooh....I found Pete's stash of conkers (Horse-chestnut tree) - he thinks they keep spiders away...just taking a pic of them dancing on the wretched things :) Well done Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#72
watch out for what surprise I have for you under thr desk. It shall etch your fingers so that you me hear me say you are a unique person my friend.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#68
I blieve my response to the comment of Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. Yes, no problem in venting out our concerns to be dealt with honesty.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#67
ai could not hide a concern trelating to beBee from you Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee. You highlight a hugely important point. Like we can be both introverts and exoverts; likewise we can be both personal and professional. I love this idea because I don't like separation thinking being this or that. Ythis is an issue that deems our attention

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #68

#71
Can hear you....got my fingers in my ears and I'm hiding under my desk....... :)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#65
swe have great success story and with the strong will we can be both introvert and extrovert. Thsnk you Lisa Vanderburg for sharing your experience.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#61
I could not respond better than you did dear Lisa Vanderburg. Thank you for sharing your beautiful mind.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #65

#67
Well said Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #64

#58
Even though it may seems we're going off-point with Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt brave statements, I know Ali, that you will respect and welcome it, for it's the nature (and intent, methinks) of this buzz: finding the change we need in our selves and collectively. Addressing my friend Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt, I think personal branding is perfectly valid if that's the true basis and creed by which they work or 'tick'. But there are too many on all these ilk of platform to all have an authentic brand. It's caused trouble by assumption,between the alleged have and have-not's. But I also thing that Bebee is stronger than it was a weak to two back, because skirmishes have made us grow, and more importantly, the management have stepped up not to 'remove' but to openly comment....finally! That said, it could be because I has a bawl-fest :)

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

3 years ago #63

#63
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee To be honest, I don't see any issue. On beBee you can be personal , professional or both. With an integrated personal and professional profile, you can connect with people based on shared hobbies, passions or interests. Not only does this help start the conversation, you may also find you develop a stronger, more successful business relationships by being able to bond over something outside of office talk. Every bee is free to be personal or professional or both. I always tell everybody " Don’t confuse β€œpersonal” with β€œprivate”. If we share any passion is NOT private, is something personal that can help me to connect deeper. .......because we found common interests and passions, which build rapport and deeper connection. Your are an amazing person! https://www.bebee.com/producer/@javierbebee/you-are-an-amazing-person-eres-una-persona-increible

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #62

#64
Ballsy, Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt...I admire you all the more for it!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #61

#57
Not answering the question you address to Ali, Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt, but I'm like you, 'definitely both, an introvert and an extrovert depending on the circumstance and situation I find myself in.' As a kid I thought I was a figment of the imaginings of others, which meant I was invisible...yay! I crept out of the house barefoot and went walkabout for hours in the dark; no one knew. For me, that was a deliberate rebellion against what I thought life would have in store for me. Been a rebel forever. I suspect you and me are the albatross :)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#62
This is a serious issue Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt to respond. Are you referring to personal branding? I am keen to know from you.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #59

#55
Wow, Debasish Majumder brought to attention yesterday: https://goo.gl/dPhjf4 That should further muck things up! Like the waves 'intensity of vibrations determine[s] our behavioral pattern', it is another much needed factor. Ultimately, you called it: to be rigid is to die to life. Thank you so much for your contribution, my friend!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#59
Thank you Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt, as you mentioned, is an example of those people. We may change the ratio between being an introvert to being extrovert. The question is to what degree. If I claim I have the answer I shall not be telling the truth.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#57
Great that you helped yourself to be both Chas \u270c\ufe0f Wyatt. This is an astonishing achievement. Birfurcation happens when tension reaches a high level and beyond the capacity of a system to hold. It is a long story. For now, I must think about your question. Tensions of limited resources could be a significant factor. Tension of high speculations could be another factor. Tension of increasing costs could be another source of tension. You must be having something worthy in your mind to ask this question. I don't really have the data to answer your question. Do you feel the tension in general is growing? This is an issue if it is.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#55
I beg Lisa Vanderburg. I remind you of the link you sent for me today and its relevance to this comment.

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

3 years ago #55

Ice contains heat which burns. equally boiling water having the same capacity to produce equal impact on us. if we consider only ourselves as reactors then the impact we may produce hardly having any say for us or we can act according to our wish. i am in utter doubt how much pertinent introvert or extrovert, if they fail to produce the impact we aspire for. while riding on waves do we have any capacity to act according to our wish? it is the waves along with its intensity of vibrations determine our behavioral pattern. however, i do believe that there is every possibility to transform extrovert to introvert and vice versa, depending upon the circumstances. still the content is too intriguing, as in case of plants what they excretes enable us to survive and sustain and even make lovely vibes in the milieu we are living. but, how do we gauge what plants may absorb, how much output they are capable to explicit and in what degree they are manifesting? however, great buzz sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. with my little understanding i can only voice this much.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#53
We talk about risk tolerance level. Isn't it time to talk about Differences Tolerant Levels? When we accept people the way they are towards making better insights ion life then we shall all be in smiles (hopefully). Thank you Glenn Melcher and I am so happy that the comments on this buzz are the proof your comment is sound and truthful.

Glenn Melcher

Glenn Melcher

3 years ago #53

Nice share Ali Anani : if we are advocating for our "People "it's not a matter if we are extrovert or introvert. If a single persons life can be made better by simply sharing good insight, that should be our intent.. Kind Regards, Glenn

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#51
I add my voice to yours Lisa Vanderburg.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #51

Love to get Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #50

#40
I have so many sides, I'm actually a big ol' rubber ball, lovely

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #49

#44
Love that - 're-parent ourselves' is a great thought Cyndi wilkins! It is a topsy-turvy life we live....always having to 're-float'.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
You know how to expand on ideas darling. Imagination shall take us beyond limits. Now, you shall know what I mean. There are some fishermen trying to allude us and treat us as fish into their net. The story of the buzz thrown in waters is an evolving one. Thank you Lisa Vanderburg for you added depth to the waters.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#44
Thank you Cyndi wilkins and I greatly appreciate your comment. Imagine that the plants use all sunlight energy to make their food and this energy isn't released back to the environment not necessarily as heat energy, but also other forms of energy. What would happen. On the same level if introverts soak up all energy and don't release it what would happen? It is the give and take, be a receiver and donor, be extrovert and introvert or at least if you are totally one then you know the need to seek the thoughts of the others. This brings balance and order. Like make and female they produce when they are together and not separated. The opposites bring balance to our lives. Crazy yes, but this is the fact.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #46

#36
Exactly! The author creates an body of water that with which he wishes to make an living, thriving ocean. but must be mindful of all the components needed for life to evolve and sustain (as you mentioned in #36). Once the pH is about 8.1ish and the alkalinity of the water is correct, life will come (the commenters). Will they enrich your sea or pollute it? That is up to You - the buzzee, to remember the moon, gravity and all those other things.... :) My head's gone numb....

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#43
so well said Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee thank you for that

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

3 years ago #44

" If all people were extroverts and take energy from the environment then introverts are the balancing factor by releasing energy to the environment." It's a 'push me pull you' kind of concept...We need the energies of both to balance the system...The energy we give so to shall we receive...When we are out of alignment with our purpose, we tend to lean more in one direction the other...It is up to us to discern which energies may be in need of a 're-charge' and which may be in need of some 'quiet time.' We need to re-parent ourselves;-)...Crazy isn't it?!?! Great buzz!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#40
I love your sense " it is not a competition, being introvert or extravert"- indeed it is not. It is when we turn it into competition we dissipate our energy wastefully.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#39
I leave it to Harvey Lloyd being identified as "The Wallflower".

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

a wonderful new way of seeing things by Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

I think and feel we should not judge the labels we are giving to people and things, everything has two sides, it all depends which side you choose to see (positive or negative). This text is great, because you let us reflect, it is not a competition, being introvert or extravert, every one of these can lead to good things, glad you contributed to that Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee well done!!!

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#13
well that is awesome to read Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, feels better than flowers!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #38

#31
devote away, dude...LOVE the way you mind works!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #37

#29
what...haha...okay, that helps!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
The mind-stretcher and imagination-stretcher as well and surely I mean you Lisa Vanderburg. So, we have a great metaphor. I feel this buzz is thrown in an ocean with sharks, fishes, turbulent waters, algae and all sorts of diatoms living in it. The author makes the wave (writing the buzz) and by throwing it in the ocean what results would he/she expects? Can the author control or predict the outcome. There must be some sharks who makes the red ocean and there are the peaceful swimming species that create the blue ocean. WOW! Another mind-blowing possibilities.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #35

#26
#27 Okay, so the extrovert's riding the wave, the introvert dives under the wave, political correctness is the shark. I bet the shark goes for the introvert first. Do we want to be what's expected of us or what we assume ourselves to be...I think now. The balance is in fluidity (without the blood and gore in the water :)).

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
Well-said Lisa Vanderburg- we may only adapt to the environment because it can change us, but we can't change it or predict it for more than short time spans.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #33

#24
Bravo, wonderful CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit; not only because you're brilliant, but also because you understand the very forces that still shape us and (for the most part) and out of our control. OH, and I said so in my comment below...not as well though :)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I hope dear Debasish Majumder would "emerge" and respond to the great salutations his comment has received.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
You too have magnets attached to your words dear Lisa Vanderburg. Your comment spurred a new idea for a buzz. What kind of magnets your words have? Are they perpetual magnets? What ironic characters get attached to your words? What is the strength of your "words magnets? What is the sustainability of your "words magnets"? How aligned are your "words magnets"? May be I devote a buzz on your magnetism!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #30

#21
I'm paraphrasing what I picked up in your brilliant comment Debasish Majumder; 'what are the forces that create an introvert, extrovert, hybrid, byvert or pendulum?' (me). Would that be a correct interpretations?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
Well Lisa Vanderburg has magnets attached to his feet and that he therefore shall not "Fall in Fall". What about summer times? He delivers his fruits.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #28

#19
haha...both, always both Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee a wallfower...his feet are too small; he'll fall over :) He told me......

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#23
Harvey Lloyd- I love comments that keep me thinking. The energy inside a wave and the outside energy that keeps the wave moving. The potential energy of the introvert and the kinetic energy of the extroverts when they are aligned great movement keep going. Exactly like you converted your potential energy in moving my thoughts.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#24
We sometimes appreciate order when we end up in disorder CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. We tend to value what we have when we miss it. That me be the awakening we have because of the "political correctness". Is this the drive for us to try to go back to the "natural order within us"?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#23
Harvey Lloyd. Thank you for such an eloquent way of expressing oit "An introvert sees the inside of the wave while the extrovert rides the wave. Which is more important? If the wave serves a purpose then both. If the wave serves no purpose then neither". That is another idea for a buzz.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

3 years ago #24

The psychic disorder that comes from a societal extrovert bias hurts the introvert more but that is predicated on a Western society that advertizes outgoing and object orientated values. Even within a western society, a woman who learns to operate under relgious command to be a subservient creature maybe an extrovert that now is shaped into introverted patterns - that itself creates psychic disorder. If 50% of society is naturally inclined to introversion, then we really do not have an intelligent equilibrium. We are more apt to ape the custom of political correctness than we are to appreciate the subtleties of the human condition. There is nothing subtle about political correctness - instead of trying to reshape disorder - let us learn to appreciate the natural order within us.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #23

#21
An introvert sees the inside of the wave while the extrovert rides the wave. Which is more important? If the wave serves a purpose then both. If the wave serves no purpose then neither. You bring an excellent metaphor to the discussion. As humans we must serve with the energy that is needed. To bring heat to the ski slopes would not be desirable. I may not be able to ride the wave, but i can insure that the wave is sustainable so that those that do ride, can do it well.The heat for boiling water and the water that is boiled are two separate things but serve a single purpose according to how it it used in the end. Is the water better than the heat? If the water is to purify something then the heat is equal to the process. Great expansion of understanding Debasish Majumder

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
Thank you Debasish Majumder is a wave-reinforcer. I wonder if you are described as introvert or extrovert? If you say introvert I shall not be surprised. If you say extrovert I shall not be surprised too my friend. Your poems and buzzes show always concern for the poor people. Are you a hybrid of the two? Thank you so much for your sharing the buzz.

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

3 years ago #21

ice can quickly boil and it is energy which determine to change its state. but, it is the external factors responsible for these changes. now, the question is who is ushering with what energy, that perhaps plays the major role, determining ones character, whether introvert or extrovert. however, lovely insight sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! enjoyed read and shared. thank you for the share sir.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #20

#18
Surely i did. But the word fragrance in our house typically applies to our natural friend in the bovine world and its aromatic causings.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#17
Lovel these charts or the creator of them? In all cases I love your senses Lisa Vanderburg. Funny you are both... well, please tell us how this helped you in your life journey.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
You made me smile. SUrely, you know what I meant byb your perfume-like fragrance.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #17

Sorry dear friend, Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee's contributions to your prior buzz...I can see (a bit!) how you mind works! Funny..I'm both - never in equal measure. I love public speaking, I hate going 'out.' BTW - totally LOVE those charts! :)

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #16

#9
This fragrance I hope is of flowers and ocean salt and not of the bovine droppings as my wife sometimes refers to my musingsπŸ™ƒ

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #15

#3
of introvert/extrovert, 'These words are amoral until we apply them as a reducing label or a choice within how to engage.' That's a brilliant redux Harvey Lloyd!

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #14

#11
Well said with few wordsπŸ—£

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

For the first time I invite to share her experience. Your writing style promises a great contribution on these issues here.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#11
Great and so you a have a story to tell Pascal Derrien. Would love to hear your story and the bybrid mix of being extrovert and introvert. I am sure many shall enjoy reading it and surely I shall do.

Pascal Derrien

Pascal Derrien

3 years ago #11

I am hybrid, I am both apparently I can come across differently depending on the situation :-) It is more about the value of an individual rather than his preferences me thinks :-)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
Love your use of the word ambivert dear Laurent Boscherini. You are a wise man. Being on the extreme of one time is tensioning and far from equilibrium. It would be interesting to read comments from people labeled as extreme introverts or extroverts. Comments of both Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee reflect your thinking beautifully. . .

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#7
Absolutely and this is what I meant we need to be one at sometime and the other at other times. Or, at least to understand others even if they are different from us. So, being introvert by labeling you are the wallflower Harvey Lloyd. But I must add with high fragrance.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Yes, I fully agree with you Harvey Lloyd and we need to add flexibility to our communication styles. If I am an extrovert then I should know when to seek the advice of an introvert. Some people who are extrovert hate dealing with introverts. I have friend who is labeled as an extreme extrovert. His son is to the extreme opposite being very introvert. They are having difficult times. In fact the other day the father told me he can no more bear his son. We may build bridges on differences or burn the bridges out. One more point is exact science. I am working on a project that for a client. The mix has aggregate, water and foaming agent. Solid, liquid and gas exist together. If we heat to increase the mix the gas escapes. If we overheat some solid components produce gas which affects the properties of the mix. If we add water to increase the workability of the mix soon a silicate gel forms and we run into many problems. There is no exact science, but there is moderation. That is to get the optimal compromise. We people in life are not different. We have people with solid attitudes, other with gel-like attitudes. Some temperaments are volatile like a gas. We need a compromise. Your comment Harvey is a way for me to seek such a compromise.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #7

I generally reject the mainstream medias presentation of these two styles of engagement. Extroverts are not the cheerleaders of society while introverts are the wall flowers. The words take on many meanings when we use them in "how" will we communicate. If we were to have a birthday party for our child we wouldn't set up a bunch of adults to share in a PowerPoint presentation of the history of birthday celebrations. But given the stereotype of introvert this is what would happen. Birthday parties are extrovertish styled events, We are all extroverts within the party. If we are at the party and see a wallflower in the corner, will we label them as an introvert and dismiss? Extroverts have challenging emotional epochs where they need some wallflower time. I always shudder when i here words of action turned into words of judgement. Extro/introverts are all great people that serve each other differently. Each has a personal life and learning curves that sometimes strain their journey. This is not because of their label, but rather because they exist.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#2
There is a comment on this buzz on LI in which the commenter questioned our ability to be both. Your comment Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee is a perfect answer to his question. I agree with you and with the need to be both. SImple steps can help us a lot along the way. For our time though I wish to be more of an introvert than an extrovert.

Laurent Boscherini

Laurent Boscherini

3 years ago #5

Thank you dear Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee is right, ambivert seems to be the middle of this spectrum because we are humans and social persons, maybe ;)

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #4

What say you? Introverts and extroverts. Join the discussion.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

3 years ago #3

I believe before we answer the question you pose we would need to understand why the question is important. Schrodinger's Cat and Solemn's Baby both had Lisa Vanderburg's "Dilemma". In each case we are faced with choice. The choice is based on our best factual information. But this information will now engage us with another human. Whether more sales to increase revenues, or assisting someone through a health crisis we now must understand the engagement process. The words intro/extrovert are not labels of who we are but rather understandings within complex world of engagement. These words are amoral until we apply them as a reducing label or a choice within how to engage. The egg is always my go to metaphor when more than one person is involved. I want to be the egg in the cake we eat when successful. The egg holds the ingredients together so that cake can happen. Sometimes the team needs an introverted egg. An egg that thinks deeply about the various decisions and choices about the future and how it is presented. Other times the team requires a get r done attitude with boosts in the fuel tank of excitement and encouragement. Sometimes i can be this, other times i go to extroverts and help them become the egg for the dilemma. Not an exact science. But i do believe that science coupled with media blur your question. In science we need labels with exact definitions. In most cases the research looks at a negative situation through the eyes of individuals. We then scale the results within a continuum of introvert/extrovert. We label people and associate the negative dilemma research to that person. When i use these words they are circumstantial. They represent a choice of what style of communications to apply to a dilemma. Not who a person is.

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

3 years ago #2

Nobody’s 100 percent introvert or extrovertβ€”we all have tendencies of both personality types lurking inside us. I am introvert but I've learned to be more extrovert. Non-verbal cues are more powerful than you think. If you prefer other people to approach and start conversations, encourage them by making eye contact and smiling. You can practice on the street, at the store or just about anywhere else. Practice smiling ! Smile ! thanks Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

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