Mind Batteries of the Genius

Mind Batteries of the Genius

What makes a genius person? Why do we remember names such as Shakespeare, Copernicus and Newton even though they passed long times ago? Every one of them wasn't just "one ingenuity shot in the arm"; in contrast every one excelled in almost everything he did. These gentlemen were separated in time and space. They lived in different environments. Was it there "internal environments" that shaped them up? And, if yes, what are the specifics of these ?

I mentioned in one of my replies here the genius Arab poet al-Mutanabbi. His poetry is occupies our thinking with his wisdom-packed poetry even though he passed away more than one thousand years ago. CityVP Manjit referred to a very important point in one of his responses to one of my comments. Manjit wrote "and a poem can take us into the universe but the poet brings us back to the core". How can the core of a great poet who was orphaned from his parents and looked after by relatives take us far away into the far horizons? Or, one must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star, as the German Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche said? Is that chaotic core taking us to starry ideas? That is an advanced thinking. Al-Mutanabbi had chaos within himself and that we know for sure. He felt isolated from the society because he was taken care of by different parties during his childhood. Socially, he was orphaned because he didn't belong to influential family. In contrast, he knew his poetry was of far greater level than all the poets of his time (and all times). He used his poetry to try to gain social influence by praising men of power. One he succeeded momentarily, his mood was great and positive. When he failed to gain a respected social position in spite of his unbelievable poetic power he turned into praising himself to the extent he nicknamed himself al-Mutanabbi (self-proclaimed prophet). He put himself in a level that society wouldn't grant it. His bifurcation between self praising and the praise of rulers and the contradiction by praising a ruler today and criticizing him tomorrow shows the great chaos he was living in. The swing between self-inflated and inflating other, between gaining self-actualization by praising influential people to self-inflating to get the recognition he needed resulted in him being a core of chaos. The pendulum swung chaotically between self-fulfilling directly or through others created enough potential to drive ingenuity.
Do genius people have high potential difference between thinking optimistically a pessimistically? Or, between thinking positively or negatively? Or, between being inward looking and outward looking? Is this differential potential is so high to drive the "mini batteries in their minds" to become genius?

What do you think?


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#96
Thank you John Valledor for highlighting the basic ingredients

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#94
The genius is the fortunate man who have such lovely souls surrounding him. Thank you my brother Mohamed Amroussi

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#92
My last buzz has so far 110 quality comments dear Javier C\u00e1mara Rica. These comments could be compiled in an e-book. May be this is something beBee would consider doing. I want also to thank you for saring and reading the comments. This is a great message from you to all bees: beBee team cares.

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

5 years ago #65

90 comments , not bad ! I am happy beBee is growing :) congratulations Ali Anani !

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#90
You know Pareto;s Rule in that 80% of people are oxygen-like and 20% nitrogen-like Melissa Hefferman

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#73
Melissa Hefferman- you are a deep thinker and may be a strong defender of your opinion. I love your comment and" in a world that is blind" you reflect a lot. I hope the world isn't too blind o see your quality of mind.

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

5 years ago #62

#84
I will be patiently awaiting Ali Anani!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#74
You aren't a "rebellion" Rebel Brown as evidenced by your very sweet comment. It is like a spray of high quality perfume.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#76
I shall be soon writing a buzz in response to your great post Milos Djukic. You are a great and influential thinker

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#77
I shared a buzz on Milos Djukic. You win

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#80
Lisa Lisa Gallagher- you seat is booked in the first row

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#79
Dear Milos Djukic You wrote in your comment ". In this special case, the initial conditions are faith, knowledge and willingness to follow our true self-similar nature". Is n't that who you are? Yes, is my answer.

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

5 years ago #56

#80
Lisa Gallagher, I am glad that people in the social media know how to recognize quality. We are all sometimes skeptical, but I've always believed in the power of the written word and mutual cooperation.

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

5 years ago #55

Insert William King's name to my last comment. Sorry If I missed anyone :-))

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

5 years ago #54

With such bright minds like, Ali Anani and more- I think a documentary may be off in the distant future.

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

5 years ago #53

#6
Dear Ali Anani. "Chaos plays a crucial role in initiation and expression of our creativity. When there is no fear, chaos becomes a generator of new ideas and an integral part of some fruitful truth-seeking oriented journey There are great rewards as a results of initial conditions (the ”Butterfly Effect”) and repeated self-discovery of ubiquitous chaos. In this special case, the initial conditions are faith, knowledge and willingness to follow our true self-similar nature." - from LI long-form post entitled: "The Secret Human Qualities That Truly Matter".

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

5 years ago #52

"By studying chaos on all scales in us, we get the conditions for a quantum leap at metaphysical level. What this practically means? Chaos should not be something that frightens us - β€œThus Spoke Zarathustra” (1883–1891). A great ”Book for all and None” by Friedrich Nietzsche was already written, a long time ago, but knowledge of chaos and how chaotic systems behave have changed for the better." - from LI long-form post entitled: "The Secret Human Qualities That Truly Matter".

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

5 years ago #51

β€œIf there is to be art, if there is to be any aesthetic doing and seeing, one physiological condition is indispensable: frenzy. Frenzy must first have enhanced the excitability of the whole machine; else there is no art. All kinds of frenzy, however diversely conditioned, have the strength to accomplish this: above all, the frenzy of sexual excitement, this most ancient and original form of frenzy." -Nietzsche- The Twilight of Idols....It is this, the frenzy of human sexuality, that has the greatest influence over our creative unconscious...It is here where the genius can be found in all of us;-)

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

5 years ago #50

Dear Ali Anani, My considerations about chaos and its essence, including Nietzsche and some other great people who have studied chaos and fractals: are published within LI long-form post entitled: "The Secret Human Qualities That Truly Matter": https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141201193542-248021126-the-secret-human-qualities-that-truly-matter?trk=mp-reader-card

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

5 years ago #49

Genius people are like comedians, usually sad and lonely. Unfortunately, it is often difficult to forgive them - great minds. That's why they are great. A man needs a woman and vice versa, only then everything is possible, even an ultimate innovation in a mystical combination of female and male elements. Thank you dear Ali Anani

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #48

#64
A classic example of a "divine accident" is the one that happened to Steve Jobs and in his case there was more than one in his life. The most transformational to his eventual success was after the board of Apple fired Jobs from his own company. In the resulting soul searching he was mentored with two giants of Silicon Valley David Packard and Bob Noyce, With this divine accident when he eventually was asked to save the company he had founded, the direction he took transformed and by his own account that is when he learned to connect the dots backwards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#70
Fantastic metaphor and deep thinking by the thinker William King. You remind me so much of my research on photoacoustic spectroscopy. By trapping air in a test tube using a dark material that almost sinks to the bottom of the tube and exposing the sample to heating using light of different wavelengths we hear a sound. This sounds results from the heating of the dark material (such as cork), which then heats the trapped air. Now, we may measure the sound intensity versus the light wavelength and we have the photoacoustic spectrum. This is different for all materials. We may also study the surface of the material and the inner layers. Some materials produce noise much more than others.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#67
Yes, Lisa Gallagher and our pursuit to understand it may make it even more complex> Sometimes I feel we are chasing our shadow

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

5 years ago #45

#66
Some people choose to see and hear. Others choose to stay blind to what's right before them when in reality their eyes are wide open. The mind is so complex, isn't it?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
I am of the belief a genius, in any field, may not create or invent but reveal what was hidden to most others and allow us to see, hear or feel- I am quoting you William King. I agree and I still wonder why only few people reveal? A great writer like Taha Hussein (nicknamed the Dean of Arab Writers) was blind since the age of three and yet he revealed so many interesting ideas. Being blind was not a deterrent. I am still wondering my friend

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#60
Yes, may be then the ideas get so hot and blow out wherein new ideas shall emerge dear Anees Zaidi

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#61
" but it is equally true that the divine accident can be lost in the smoke because of the heat of our passions - passionate urge is inside meets out, while divine accidents in- That is a very interesting idea and a form of advanced thinking. Accidents come to those who are ready for it and deserve it. But how about repeating accidents for the same prson? Do you think same principle applies?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Great insights dear Lisa Gallagher and though-provoking comment. In my post nest to this one When "the kites are not in unison"- I explained how seeds of some plant explode violently to hit seed and explode them as well (see embedded video) and then the wind carry the released seeds over long distances. This way the plant may live in other locations. The seeds explode for purpose and so genius people may explode the seeds of their ideas to hit similar believer and disseminate the idea. Lots to think about

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

5 years ago #40

Ali Anani, I think internal chaos can drive a person in one direction or the other. Then again, internal chaos can also cause a person to teeter between the positive and negative. Others may perceive the person as altruistic when in essence, their soul is on fire or quite the opposite. I think it's sometimes easier for a person that is not only a genius but dealing with conflict that has never healed- it may be for that person it's easier to write as the genius they are, sometimes using self-expression and other times metaphors. Maybe it takes conflict for some to re-charge their batteries and utilize a higher part of their brain. Very good questions and thought provoking Ali.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #39

#23
from Anees Zaidi & follow up from #26 Ali Anani. : The passionate urge and the battle that intensifies is certainly is a very valid observation. The passionate urge is always expressed in the field of the known. Through the known we convert this appreciation. It is through the unknown we are converted by the blessing and here there is something else that will be a surprise to our attention, and that is the divine accident. This is the blessing from the unknown and in this blessing many a splendid transformation can occur. It is true that many do not convert their passionate urge or see the point of battling, but it is equally true that the divine accident can be lost in the smoke because of the heat of our passions - passionate urge is inside meets out, while divine accident is outside meets in. In this we find the meeting point between appreciation and blessing and so both are wondrous in their own being.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

5 years ago #38

#56
Bravo William King for a great "comment". And you can't give too much credit for it to your third cup of coffee. I agree with what you say and love the way you said it. On a personal note, I want to say thank you for your generous comment about my writing. The feeling is mutual.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
I need to sip three cups of coffee before I may respond to your brilliant William William King> and after iftar (fasting month )

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Inspired by the great comments here I responded in a buzz titled "When "the kites are not in unison" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/when-the-kites-are-not-in-unison I look forward to your comments

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#51
And still I am not tempted to disclose my inspired idea dear Anees Zaidi so much that I wrote to him urging him to expand on this idea. I expect this from him because we exchanged posts on batteries and the title of this post includes batteries. I rarely write to commenters to comment and this is one rare case.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
My previous comment got truncated and I addressed it to you Anees Zaidi

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
I say people who are able to put smiles on other peoples' faces are the most successful. Now, I have to find an expression for people who put more than one smile as you did

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#41
Anees Zaidi- a new idea just emerged in my mind because of this active and live exchange of minds. I am writing it hopefully today. Keep inspiring me my friend. Metamorphosis of ideas is being practiced.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

5 years ago #31

#35
Interesting perspective of patience Anees Zaidi refers to patience as a "powerful engine".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#41
Exactly, Anees Zaidi. You are more qualified than I to give this beautiful explanation and support of the idea that when internal and external chaos are met with patience great things would emerge.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#39
With all honesty I feel we are getting closer to finding out what makes a genius Anees Zaidi. You could take Gandhi as an example and show how his patience in troubled heart with a troubled country made him a genius. Nelson Mandela is another example from recent history. I think new insights are emerging.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
I posted my previous response before reading your last comment Anees Zaidi and I expect my explanation is consistent with your theory.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#34
This is a powerful comment Anees Anees Zaidi and @Mohammed Sultan. I would love to know if this explanation is plausible to you all!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
Yes, @Mohammed Sultan has the ability of using metapbors in his comments and the patience metaphor is a powerful engine is a good example of what I mean Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

5 years ago #25

#28
I love the metaphor Mohammed Sultan; "patience is a powerful engine". This is why I think patience is related to genius in that it propels one towards having their vision realized.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
I am glad also that you made your oinion on LI knownhere so that Sara Jacobovici may and hopefully respond as both of you mentioned patience. Let your brains collide

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
Mohammed Sultan and I exchanged comments with you on LI frequently and you showed amazing capability to read posts with different eyes.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#24
Praveen Raj Gullepalli- Passion is the soil, effort is the toil, Acceptance and appreciation the food, to discover now, that which one day, someone would! A poetic response, but with admirable depth. I invite debasish majumder expressed in her comment. Keep sharing your lovely spirit, Praveen.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#23
"This battle intensifies in proportion to the chaotic environment outside". I love this description Anees Zaidi would comment. I think you expressed your opinion very clearly and "notoriously" for the mind because it shall be busy like a bee thinking of it. Thank you Anees for being who you are.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
The video and the richness of your comments are amazing CityVP Manjit commented. Your comments make us think and it is a great pleasure to learn from you, Manjit.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

5 years ago #19

#21
Once again CityVP Manjit one of your "comments" leaves me with so much. Thanks for the link. I am a fan of Immanuel Kant. I didn't know he coined the term genius in the 1700s, I find his definition very interesting: he "defined it as the rare capacity to independently understand concepts that would normally have to be taught by another person." Also, in connection with your discussion on genius and madness, you inspired me to post Kafka's description of a "beakdown" in my mental health Hive.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

5 years ago #18

The worst explanation of genius is easy for me to declare. It is the pathology of people who seek to determine the relationship between genius and madness. It is the simplest answer but not the root answer i.e. source. If the care in healthcare is care, then it summons my imagination to ask more fully how the identification of genius then seeks to improve the overall health of all societies. Powerful icebergs of genius have been mentioned by Ali Anani but there is so much genius under the water, that we do not ask ourselves why society suffocates or drowns so much genius. Now to recognize in our own turmoil if we were truly genius, that what we encounter is really a system issue that is not organized for genius A true genius does not often realize it isn't a personal issue and continues to look inward, never appreciating the blessing of their genius, only the fault of it - here genius = inner conflict. Ultimately, how can we even talk of genius, when our attempts to explain genius are not a creative act! To demonstrate people who have done a good job of exploring genius through creative expression is this video "The Enigma of Genius" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbE_jVT1NiY I have said we speak to the poetry of genius, but not the condition of the poet as a genius. al-Mutanabbi should be explained by the systemic issues of his society and not by personal issues that result from the systemic - which are but manifestations of a society that was not or maybe never ready to utilize the capability of al-Mutanabbi . Thus genius is an enigma especially when it is contained like a bomb, rather than allowed to flow like power. We are too humble to see our genius, too quick to blame ourselves.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
Mohammed Sultan commended on the shared post on LI and he referred too to patience.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#18
I realized that not was not typed Kevin Kevin Pashuk

Kevin Pashuk

Kevin Pashuk

5 years ago #15

Oops! I should proofread more... Galileo stated the world was NOT flat.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#15
Lovely description of common attributes of genius people Gert Scholtz

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#14
That is my hope Kevin Pashuk to this puzzling question. Your comment is beauty.Surely they were all daring to experiment bod ideas.Newton 's mind must have been ready to question why the apple fell on him. What or how do we describe this readiness is the question.

Gert Scholtz

Gert Scholtz

5 years ago #12

Ali Anani Your post made me think about genius. To my mind genius is found in people with extremely high intellect, energetic and persistent application to a problem or question, the ability to comprehend, combine and transcend many disciplines, and personality traits which are opposing and paradoxical and which create the inner tension to forge the new..

Kevin Pashuk

Kevin Pashuk

5 years ago #11

Shakespeare, Corpernicus, and Newton did have one thing in common... They were not constrained by the accepted thinking of the day - bold enough to explore new ideas and married it with the dedication to test and prove these ideas. I meet many 'geniuses' in my world today who all share the same traits. It is no wonder that history has shown that one of the first things a repressive government suppresses is free speech and opposing ideologies. I have just returned from Italy where Galileo was branded a heretic (until very recently) for stating that the world was flat. Please keep stirring the idea hive Ali Anani. Who knows what may come of it?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#11
Another different ide on what makes a genius by the authored mind on Franci Eugenia Hoffman. Going to the extreme. A worthy idea and I hope we get comments on this as well

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

5 years ago #9

#6
I love how you think Ali Anani and the great questions you pose.

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

A component of genius is the ability to survive insurmountable odds. Also, the desire to compete with yourself. In order to achieve, a genius is relentless in their thoughts, creativity and actions. Whether their thinking is positive or negative, their obsession is to excel. IMO, taking the road of least resistance would not be conducive to a genius thus the swing could be to the extreme, whether optimistic or pessimistic.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Great thinking @William King, but what made them see the "current of truth"? What was the motivational or driving force? You intrigued my mind more than it was with this lovely comment

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#7
I agree and my response to Sara Jacobovici. However; I know Einstein used to try different directions before deciding on one to focus on. Minds staying in their comfort zone need to be perturbed first

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
I greatly appreciate the idea of patience. That is interesting. I was thinking of Einstein and his powerful imagination while writing the post. Now, we add patience. But was his mind in a state of stability or was it changing directions to come up with the best one. Minds of discovery and divergence to end up in a stable convergence. You got me thinking and trapped in an unstable thinking process. Do we need to increase chaos so that an orderly idea may emerge? I tend to think so.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

5 years ago #4

Thank you again for a very thought provoking Buzz Ali Anani. Aristotle and Isaac Newton, gentlemen who "were separated in time and space [and] lived in different environments" both included the attribute of patience in their description of genius: Aristotle - Genius is eternal patience. Isaac Newton - Genius is patience. You would think that patience is an incongruent energy to that of chaos and the opposites you present in your concluding questions. Yet, when you think of it, maybe that is what makes genius; patience as the energy which allows us to be in the chaos and opposites.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#2
"unlike previous prodigies, who were famous out of their intellectual prowess, which still now bears the testimony of their adeptness and still pertinent". I love ts idea dear debasish majumder. Yes, power brings in transient ingenuity, but true ones come from strongly from within.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
You open up new possibilities with your comment dear Laurent BOSCHERINI. I need to ponder on as they sound very promising.

Laurent Boscherini

Laurent Boscherini

5 years ago #1

Thank you dear Ali Anani for sharing your relevant thoughts. Maybe, there isn't a typicalness to it. Genius or Prodigy have gone from β€œhaving a kind of genius” to β€œbeing” one, in a wide spectrum which embraces all fields of life, beyond of academics rewards and achievements noticed. It seems more to be linked by the ability to share it with humility to be uplifted and uplift by its consistent uniqueness.(Takers, Givers, Learners... and Doers). Almost Everybody has an inner Goodwill !

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