Noisy falling, but no listeners

Noisy falling, but no listeners

I paused while reading this ""If we are putting our time and resources into communicating science but we're not on social media, we're like a tree falling in an empty forestβ€”yes, we're making noise, but no one is listening". My mind thought of a falling tree in a desert falling onto sand and who would listen? Will the tree falling in a forest make the same sound as a tree falling on sand? Will that make any difference if there are no listeners?

Noisy falling, but no listeners

The falling tree in the forest will have more opportunities to grow and form wide rings. In contrast, the falling tree in the desert will have narrow rings. Will the rings cry with different vibrations?

Social media is the forest and it provides opportunities and challenges different from those trees growing alone in the sandy desert. If a tree stands on the edge of a forest it has more exposure to wind. It stands alone and its growth potential is reduced and so its rings get narrower. Even though the tree is living in a forest yet it has narrow rings like those trees of deserts. I believe this is what motivated people to leave the forest of some social platforms. They felt that nobody is listening to them and deprived of the potential to grow. They were worried that if they fall nobody would listen to them.

The strength of a tree comes from the quality of its wood. Some trees produce some very high quality wood and others produce low quality wood. The latter is more prone to attack by fungi and the result is a weak tree that could fall soon. People on social media need the environment to allow them to grow healthily and produce the high quality fruits (ideas, buzzes, associations, hives, links, or whatever). People will not leave a social media platform if they feel they have the potential to grow.

Like in a forest some trees grow very high, others medium high and others remain low. Some hives have thousands of members and others have a mere of ten members. Those trees that grow very high might feel lonely alone up in the sky. If they fall their fall shall make a big noise and they might fall on small trees. The higher we go, the more caring for ourselves and others we should be. They make recall Jonathan's seagull which flew higher than other seagulls. It then realized that to flow higher is to teach other how to fly better and higher. The higher a hive goes, the more it can explore and the more it can give to hives that are still lower. The more high trees give, the more they shall experience and the healthier they shall grow. Social medium is not only sharing of our problems; it is more sharing our experiences, thoughts and imaginations. No matter what the cause of loneliness, being alone in a desert, standing highest in a forest or flying highest it is turning this loneliness to help others that shall make the difference.

You feel lonely then you have the opportunity to fall on us and nobody shall listen, or to share the experiences of your loneliness and we shall all be good listeners.

I dedicate this buzz to @Sara Jacobovici for she listens whenever I fall


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#75
Your comment resonates so strongly with me . You highlighted the segment of the post that was the motive to write it. This is satisfying. I love the way you describe the role of social media and I fully concur with you.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#71
Yes, the way you phrased the question is super Aurorasa Sima. I share the same feelings in that this platform is is both being part of a caring platform and caring people and respecting some short period pf desired loneliness. Together we grow

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#70
Reading very sound comments such as yours dear Deb Helfrich makes me feel the difference between beBee and other platforms. Potential to grow depend, among other factors, on quality of feedback and "tossing" of ideas. Surely, we can help each other to how we can most easily look to assuage loneliness or isolation whether in a forest or a desert. If this feeling is coupled with potential to grow then surely there is a room for each idea to get exposure for light to grow.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Dear Sara Jacobovici wrote a buzz in which she mentioned this buzz. As much as I am flattered by the words of Sara, equally I am absorbed by a quote she embeds in her buzz. A one minute buzz that shall keep you first stunned with its quality and then experience the movement of this quote in your body. A highly-recommended buzz for you to read and enjoy: There Is poetry in science": https://www.bebee.com/producer/@sara-jacobovici/there-is-poetry-in-science

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#65
I believe you hit a powerful idea dear Sara Jacobovici with this writing "in stillness lies potential and that the potential is released through movement, vibration, resonance". You remind me of potential energy and kinetic energy. The potential energy of ideas converting to kinetic energy in different forms of movement such as vibrations. Would the movement be orbiting, vibrating, resonating, swinging, zig-zagging or whatever is the conversion of potential energy. So, the pendulum is a great metaphor. I am sure there are other relevant metaphors. You see your idea is "moving" in my head.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#65
Yes, absolutely correct dear Sara Jacobovici as the Poet of Science, but then she responded by adding the word premier. SIlent ideas move in our heads with inspiration.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #52

#64
The idea that's brewing Ali Anani) as "the premier Poet of Science" Beautiful piece of work. Thanks for the share.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
Dear Sara Jacobovici- now that I have read the two links I wonder what ideas are brewing in your mind. I wrote a presentation on leaves acting as pendulums. May be would inspire you one one more offshoot idea: http://www.slideshare.net/hudali15/complexity-thoughts BTW- this is my most favorable presentation.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#61
I strongly invite readers to read the very thoughtful buzz of Sara Jacobovici shall find it extremely relevant to her comment. Thank you Sara for reminding me again of your great post.

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

4 years ago #49

#61
I'm sure we've all felt alone in a crowd and thank you for putting up a link to your buzz Sara Jacobovici, I just left a comment. Couldn't agree more about being dependent on others in the community. Social media can be very fullfilling at times and other times, yes a lonely feeling.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #48

#59
Thanks for tagging me on this important comment by Lisa Gallagher. This is definitely the paradox of human development; our need to be independent while being dependent on others and community. The challenges of social media is that it is a sensory step removed from our natural non-verbal language of engagement. Still, the "being lonely in a crowd" syndrome has existed in all times and communities. I would like to share a short Buzz I wrote on this topic. Thanks. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@sara-jacobovici/alone-to-create

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

4 years ago #47

#59
Your so right Ali Anani, it's healthy to be alone for short periods of time. I treasure those times when i feel peaceful and doing something just for me. It's healthy for relationships too. To not socialize for extended periods is unhealthy and can lead to more anxiety when you must. Thanks!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#57
Dear Lisa Gallagher is the "Mother of Paradoxes" I wonder if she would see this as a paradox. Thank you Lisa for your attentive comment

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
Thank you dear Sara Jacobovici- I shall read the links before responding soon.

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

4 years ago #44

I think many people feel lonely and some lonelier than others. I've learned to get choosier with those I associate with because it can be either conducive or destructive to our mental frame of mind depending on the interactions we have on Social Media. There's so much we can learn from each other, it's the way it's presented and/or the way others speak to us that can make all the difference in the world. A tree obviously has limbs that embrace the birds which sit upon them, we can all be those limbs and embrace each other. Nice article Ali Anani

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #43

#50
A connection between metaphors and science. I am looking at the expression or metaphor of a pendulum swinging, its origin and use and I came across this intriguing information (which you may already be aware of) http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pend.html, specifically resonant frequencies and excitation at resonance, http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/reson.html#resdef. Could this be a variation of the silent bubble waiting for agitation Ali Anani?

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #42

#52
That is fine Irene Hackett for the only league that exists here is a fine league of brothers and sisters with a spirit to blend the personal with the professional and thus create a relationship that is fit for the 21st Century. For me this is the only league that matters, all other leagues are a measure of the past or a form of competition which befits only ancient professional divisions.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #41

#46
I think you are way to modest David Navarro L\u00f3pez I have seen a depth of sensibility and an acuteness of awareness in just your English responses and like Ali Anani you can also respond in Spanish - it is a common trait of highly bright people to undervalue their actual contribution and likewise fools overvalue their contribution (using words like bullshit or other words of denigration in order to convey their opinion). Humility is a part of who David Navarro Lopez is, that much is clear to me, but there is no question that you possess a very bright light and there is nothing at all secondary or lesser about your own uniqueness.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

You agitated me with your comment. I feel I am a rising bubble dear Sara Jacobovici. I know from the "warmth" of your words that a new idea has just popped up in your head. Like corns, they "Bubble out their silence" when we heat roast them".

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #39

#48
"What we think is a silent bubble is in fact a bubble waiting for agitation." Priceless, Ali Anani!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Dears Sara Jacobovici- if you wish to witness silence in bubbles you may do so. Just empty a can of Seven-Up (being transparent) into a glass and wait till the bubbles cease. Add few granules of sand or rice to the glass and the silent bubbles shall start rising again. What we think is a silent bubble is in fact a bubble waiting for agitation.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
I read many buzzes by you dear David Navarro L\u00f3pez and your insights have always been exceptional.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

4 years ago #36

#42
#30 I thank you very much for the confidence put on me, although I am not at the level of joining such a huge talents like the one of @Milos Djukic, CityVP Manjit above others on "Scientific matters". Nevertheless, I will follow and try to give my humble and low-level opinion from a mechanical technician as usual. Please keep me on the loop.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#38
I am bewildered by our telepathy and your depth Irene Hackett/ Afterall, you are my "grand" sister. Grand in value, in meaning and in depth is surely what I mean. I read your message and it is so meaningful and touchy. Again, I am proud to say it publicly you are my sister even though we don't share the same father or mother.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#32
Phillip Louis D 'Amato- yes, the forest AND the tree and not necessarily the tree OR the forest

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#31
Beautifully said by you dear CityVP Manjit- "If these hubs or natural aggregation points then flow outwards and enrich us with broader ecosystem that is a spoke of each affinity, that itself is a marvelous pathway. Observe the kind of buzzes that people find relevant and you will soon see that relevancy is still tribal rather than a flow of affinity. Creating a hive is a decision". No need to add anything except my full support

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#30
My dear friend David Navarro L\u00f3pez- I suggested your name in one of my responses before I had read your comment. You know what ties both of us together. You are the one who once influenced me NOT to stop writing. I find your appreciation and kind words of immense value because they come from you. Thank You

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

4 years ago #31

#40
Thank you dear Ali Anani!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
Dear Milos Djukic. Go ahead with our total and unquestionable support.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#26
Peter van Doorn- I know the answer and I shall share it publicly. Yes, life here is spicy and is full of varieties.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#25
Thank you dear CityVP Manjit and I second your idea. In fact it is a great one.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#23
Sears Sara Sara Jacobovici- the value of a buzz is in the ideas and exchanges it creates. Therefore reading what Sara responded to Irene " I am so glad you brought up the question, "I wonder, in this "sensory reduced" state, if in fact our senses are not impacted in such a way that induces more sensory activity?" broke the silence of bubbles. I am now more impatiently awaiting the buzz of dear Sara

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#20
Dear Milos Djukic- my friend you summed it beautifully with your wisdom "Successful people are not always friendly, patient and calm, but great social people are". Yes, together we shall find a breakthrough

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
I have to start responding first with your comment dear Sara Jacobovici. I paused before responding to enjoy the silence between these love and musical comments.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #24

#27
I apologize ahead of time if I have shared this quote with you before Irene Hackett, but I just couldn't resist: "The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between.” ― Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #23

#28
Dear Milos Djukic to engage in that role, because she has a fundamental relation to science and research. As a non-scientist I am not a Christie Wilcox, but I learn from scientists, I learn from designers, from mathematicians, from artists etc etc - because are the true affinities. To sit on the edge and observe that natural affinity is a rather marvelous thing, but we get to embedded about our own views of what is social and what is beBee or what is sharing, that we miss the reality that we don't really go to science blogs, we don't visit a domain expert because social traffic moves to centers like beBee, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google Plus. If these hubs or natural aggregation points then flow outwards and enrich us with broader ecosystem that is a spoke of each affinity, that itself is a marvelous pathway. Observe the kind of buzzes that people find relevant and you will soon see that relevancy is still tribal rather than a flow of affinity. Creating a hive is a decision. The meaning of decision is to shut other possibilities out, a cutting off - I copied the meaning of Decision from dictionary.com 1425-75; late Middle English decisioun < Middle French < Latin dΔ“cΔ«siōn- (stem of dΔ“cΔ«siō) literally, a cutting off, equivalent to dΔ“cΔ«s(us) (past participle of dΔ“cΔ«dere; see decide) None of the conversations I have read in this buzz embrace this notion of cutting off, because we can be more carefree about a lack of limitation. Science communication is only an open source when it has specific affinity with its language and ways, and how that expertise and form then deals with the nature of media - then this is the construct underlying science communication.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

4 years ago #22

If a tree falls in a desert, compared to the sounds around it, it will make more rebound, but much less others will hear it. In the other hand, if a tree falls in a forest, there is more possiility to be heard, but as well, more background noise. If there is a storm on a forest, a fall of a tree will not be noticed. It would only if the rest of the forest is still. I have read from you Ali Anani real masterpieces of wisdom which had very few responses compared to the message given. The reasons could be as trivial as you can imagine, there is no logical on it. Is like fate. There are so many variables, that is impossible to predetermine what is going to happen. The main thing is that you are sharing wisdom in every post you share, not expecting anything, just because you are generous, and this should be enough. If somebody is listening, is one thing. If it responds publicly, is another. But the good you do with your posts, the reach you achieve, you'll never know. One thing is for sure. Like the Sun, the power emitted from your soul is going 360 degrees making grow a flower or helping a bird to dry its wings. But the sun doesn't care about it. It keeps shining. Keep on shining my friend.

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

4 years ago #21

#24
My pleasure dear Sara Jacobovici.

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

4 years ago #20

#25
It's an excellent idea dear CityVP Manjit ?) Best Regards, Milos

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #19

Dear Milos Djukic this is the kind of buzz I would typically most relate with you because apart from your interest in fractals, you are by far the biggest proponent for science communication. What I would like to see you doing is to approach Christie Wilcox or as Christie Wilcox describes herself "Nerdy Christie" http://christiewilcox.com/contact.html and in specific reference to her Wiki http://socialnetworkingforscientists.wikispaces.com see if you can work with her with your interest in science communication as to promoting science communication through beBee. As strange as I find it but I do not presently see a hive on Science Communication and the invitation then is to create that hive and then invite Christie Wilcox to be a co-manager of that hive, and more importantly begin to contribute articles to her Wiki on science communication topics of how beBee can be utilized and further developed for this primary purpose i.e. advocating and building a repository of information on the Wiki similiar to http://socialnetworkingforscientists.wikispaces.com/Facebook or http://socialnetworkingforscientists.wikispaces.com/Twitter or http://socialnetworkingforscientists.wikispaces.com/Google+Plus I think this would be a very good partnership and it is integral to what you already promote and absolutely believe in.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #18

#20
I agree wholeheartedly Milos Djukic and appreciate you including me in such fine company.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #17

#16
Irene Hackett, I am so glad you brought up the question, "I wonder, in this "sensory reduced" state, if in fact our senses are not impacted in such a way that induces more sensory activity?" I was thinking of that when you wrote in your earlier comment, "In silence I read these buzzes, and yet the 'sound' - oh the 'Sound of Silence" - 'left it seeds while I was still sleeping, the visions planted in my brain'" This statement can only come from someone who has experienced the self in relation to his or herself, others and his or her environment from a full sensory spectrum. You read ("see") and "hear" and associate with past experiences and then "imagine" (in the absence of external stimuli) the song, its images, associations and meaning. If you take someone who started their life in the "new world of devices", they have a reduced sensory experience and they can only associate and derive meaning from that; a more restricted repertoire. I am not judging or devaluing what is imagined or associated. I am just remarking on the differences and suggesting that the answer to your question is; it doesn't induce more sensory activity, the type of activity is dependent on what has been "sparked" by the individual experience.

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

4 years ago #16

#21
Absolutely dear Irene Hackett.

Milos Djukic

Milos Djukic

4 years ago #15

#6
#10 #9 Dear friends Irene Hackett. Beauty should be sought more in the people, rather than in products.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#18
Thank you Harvey Lloyd and I do appreciate your thoughts. I wrote a buzz recently in which I said to love is to grow less. A tall tree grows less so that its siblings may get light.I have no differences with you. Yes, light is energy and is a source for photosynthesis. But light alone shall not do it. Water is needed. Yes, I am seeking the light of truth and your comment is of great help.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #13

The metaphor of the forest to describe the social media platform is a good one Ali Anani. I would add though, the forest is not competitive with its surrounding trees but seeks the sun as its sole purpose. Seeking the energy that it provides. When we look at individual members of the forest they see light and grow towards the opening, foreshadowing the other trees seeking the same hole in the canopy. The metaphor I see here is that the tree does it naturally with no role or goal to shadow the other trees. A sapling among its aged brethren seeks only the sun. If the sapling saw its larger cousins as competitive it would wither and die. The sapling has but one goal, find the light. Social media saplings or trees should find their light and grow. Individual perfection is found within the seeking of light not within the other trees. If we become so focused on the trees around us then we cant seek the light. This is not to say that we should not help other trees but our focus must always be within the seeking of light.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
Dear Irene Hackett will respond. Sara shall acknowledge the depth of your comment and she will speed up the writing of her buzz.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #11

#13
Your metaphor is a wonderfully insightful and inspirational gift Ali Anani! Thank you.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#10
Dear Irene Hackett- I wrote in my last response to you " ideas coming out from your hear". Sorry as I meant head and not hear

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#12
Your comment isn't addressed to me dear Sara Jacobovici and yet I couldn't stop expressing my appreciation of your comment. Your writing "But, now, I am beginning to see this not so much as a paradox but as a state of being; the social media state of being is a non-physical, sensory reduced state. How we move through or in and out of these states demands a strong core/ego and (to give you a teaser about my soon to be posted Buzz) the ability to integrate. Thanks Irene for being a part of this community" moves mountains. While greatly anticipating your forthcoming buzz an idea crossed my mind. In ice and liquid water the molecules have physical attraction. They are close to each other. In water vapor the same molecules are far away and independent of each other. May be this would help as a metaphor for social media and sensory reduced state. I am just guessing what your buzz shall be about.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #8

#5
#6 Dear Irene Hackett, I can definitely "relate" to your comments. Any tool or device can be used to its potential and enhance communication and the "sharing" of ideas and experiences. Like behaviours, we can actually elevate ourselves through our choices and actions. And, yes, social media is a community and in this way we search for a place "to land". I have landed on beBee and have found the good fortune to engage with individuals such as yourself. One of the things that I have become conscious of in my new environment is the difference between paradoxes and different states of being. It is a paradox that we can have "many friends" on social media but do not engage with others in "real life". But, now, I am beginning to see this not so much as a paradox but as a state of being; the social media state of being is a non-physical, sensory reduced state. How we move through or in and out of these states demands a strong core/ego and (to give you a teaser about my soon to be posted Buzz) the ability to integrate. Thanks Irene for being a part of this community.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#10
Dear sister Irene Hackett- I see the seeds blossoming and flowery ideas coming out from your hear. In silence, they grow, imagine, develop and soon the sound of silence shall be audible.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
Dearest sister Irene Hackett to read your comment and I highlight his name to bring your comment to his attention. What captured my attention completely is your writing " A successful community tends to the needs of all and the bigger the community gets, the more 'smaller groups' will be formed within, which will be 'self similar' in its ability to nurture healthy growth of the community at large - Fractals are beautiful and are forever!". I wonder who is the Scientific Poet dear Irene

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
Dear Irene Hackett to read your comment. In fact I invite the whole beBee team to read it. I refrained from mentioning beBee by name because as the author of the buzz I didn't want to sound advertising beBee. But you said what I kept in my chest. Yes, beBee is the place to be. I have spent years on other platforms, but only here I got to know people of your quality. I think Javier would find your comment very relevant in describing what beBee is all about.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #4

Ali Anani's "sound" words are worth listening to.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Thank you dear Sara Jacobovici. It is because you are honorable that people honor you. You made a big and positive differences and you stand out.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #2

Dear Ali Anani's words, "don't lament on falling sound please sir." Your "sound" words ring out true and clear. Your insight and teaching vibrates across cyberspace. You write, "it is turning this loneliness to help others that shall make the difference." You are making a difference Dr. Ali.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I hear your sound loudly and I appreciate your soundness dear debasish majumder

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