Order from Disorder

Order from Disorder

It amazes me that we can get free gifts from disorder. It amazes me more that we need to have a balance between order and disorder. In business, if a company is strictly controlled so that employees are "locked" in their positions they eventually lose their interest in doing the work. This situation aggravates more with time as employees become stressed and fail to find the keys to unlock themselves from the situations they fall in. Do we need to strike a balance between order and disorder? If we answer with yes then the question becomes how?
I wish to share my own experience with teaching a university course on statistics to elaborate more on this issue. The students were scared f this course because of what they heard from other students about the difficulty of statistics. Many students failed before and worried that passing this course would be challenging for them. They had lost their desirability to study statistics before even they attended any lecture. This time I decided to apply strict rules for attendance. No student was allowed in the class if s/h was late. However; I didn't start with lecturing, but in a simulation lab in which the students could play games of statistics to "see" the logic behind statistics. For two weeks the students were amused by the experimental fun and their initial fears of statistics washed away. It was at this point of time that I told them attendance wasn't compulsory. The students had the choice of deciding if the course was "for them". Not a single student was absent in subsequent classes.

The allowance of students to decide for themselves proved more productive than controlling them and bringing them to the class by order. They self-organized in study groups and often gave me feedback. Order was in place without forcing it.

We can force employees to go to work. But, wouldn't it be much more productive for their respective firms if to attend was their own option. In managing organizations we tend to use control to "align" employees. We use punishment as a way to enforce order such as issuing notices and penalizing employees for coming late. But if they do come late it means that they aren't very pleased to do what they do. This is a feedback that something is going wrong. The management hasn't made the work appealing enough for the employees to report on time to work.

These are cues that in the mid of strict control there is a need to allow for disorder from the system so that order emerges again.

We need to think about how to send organizations to a far from equilibrium states. One way of doing it is to allow for choices- lots of them. Having choices means having more states, more possibilities that actually may cause disorder. More choices may mean more entropy and free of movement after which the system may self-organize into butter structures. We need to experiment on this issue. It could fire back. Banks which have developed so many different choices of schemes for their customers have actually confused the customers and the cost of keeping these choices under control. Complexity for customers increased as well and customers lost their interest in listening to these offers. It is from this disorder that banks need to find order. They could have few basic offers from which other offer branch out. Trees do it and we can too. Branching of trees is self-controlled and we too need to do the same. The main branches are the main hubs of business. They are the self-organized groups from which other offers branch out. Each branch should have the freedom to decide what other activities to branch out to. Without trust and the free flow of information among groups this isn't possible. The use of banks as an example serves as a way to understand businesses that give multiple of choices for customers.

Balancing order and disorder is a challenging issue, but is worth the effort.


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#34
Debesh Choudhury- is there a hope of filling a punctured balloon with air? Students who have no desire are like this balloon. Believe me it works. As for sharing buzzes here on LI I am not sure that views conts up. When this buzz had here 600 views it had 1100 views on LI, If they add up then the number of views on beBee must have been more. But it is nice to get different comments from different platforms.

Debesh Choudhury

Debesh Choudhury

3 years ago #31

I got a good tips how to improve class attendance of the students .. from your reply (comment) it is also interesting to know that the shares of beBee buzz on LI gives more views

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#32
Yes, and your comment gets hold of the main idea if the buzz Lisa \ud83d\udc1d Gallagher. SOmetimes, we reorganize into better selves when exposed to high tensions. In my next buzz zI hope to write on away to write great stories. How the heros self-organize after reaching the peak of a tension they experience. This is their self-awakening.

Lisa Gallagher

Lisa Gallagher

3 years ago #29

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee, great information. This caught my eye, "More choices may mean more entropy and free of movement after which the system may self-organize into butter structures." I think you are very wise, because many times we do see systems organize into better structures. When people understand they can think for themselves without being chastised, the flow can be amazing. It also creates a better environment over all.

Bill Stankiewicz, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

Cool buzz

Javier 🐝 CR

Javier 🐝 CR

3 years ago #27

#28
thanks Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee for your information.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Javier \ud83d\udc1d beBee- just a quick note. This is the first time the number of comments and views of any of my buzzes that are less on beBee than the shared ones on LinkedIn. The average number of views on my buzzes on beBee was 2600 Now, over the last twenty buzzes the number is less than 2000. On the contrary, views on LI moved up from an average of about 400 to more than 1000 lately. I hope this trend is not experienced by other author bees. If yes, then it shall be interesting to find out why. Is it due to amy falling quality of buzzes? Is it because I am repeating myself? Whatever reason is, the trend may be worthy of your attention. On a personal level, I am so happy to get the feedback I am getting and even more than I deserve. However; you may find it of value to gauge this trend.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#26
as nuch as you keep me alive with your support dear

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

#25
you are a great bee Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee thank you for all you do for all of us. You keep the glue alive.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Because of your last buzz CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit, including a part on imagination I invite you to show a glimpse of your imaginative power here. Your buzz I am referring to may be reached through this link https://www.bebee.com/producer/@liesbeth-leysen/the-dragon-that-wanted-to-fly-to-australia

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#23
I am truly privileged by your comment CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. I thank you for sharing and placing the buzz in your hive Violet Hive. You brought order to the nuzz and your imagination with your powerful abstract thinking have found order in disorder. Your powerful mentioning of hives being a way of self-organizing is spot on. I expressed same and explained tis in my buzz " Fingerprint of Change" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/fingerprint-of-change I wrote in this buzz "The best theory is an applied theory. The conference achieved both through running two days of lectures on topics related to the activities of the workshops. This way the participants decided which workshop to attend depending on several factors such as their interests and their apprehension of the topic by the speakers. Thinking about it this is a self-organizing approach and inline with the modern theories of management. The participants dissolved themselves in the hives (workshops) of their interest. It also served as measure of the ability of lecturers to attract the bees (participants) to their hives. It is a pull mechanism and not a push one. This made the atmosphere of the conference attracting, inviting and highly engaging". I believe hives work on same principles.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

3 years ago #21

The learning hives I utilize here are created on the basis of order emanating from disorder. The very learning pathways I have created here were due to my exposure to self-organizing systems, which began with Stewart Kauffman's observation that "order is for free". That idea was then pursued by Margaret Wheatley. This is something that triggered a paradox wisdom based on imagination, from a very order based buzz by Harley King about practical application of imagination. The education system takes great efforts to order our imagination rather than allow the natural disorder of imagination to bring forth order from disorder. This is what allowed me to place Harley's buzz on Imagination in my White Hive but places this particular buzz on "Order from Disorder" in my Violet Hive. This buzz is also a practical application but one about complexity. When we read a paper on Complexity like this one http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/Papers/ELIS-complexity.pdf it is very helpful to find an orderly view, otherwise disorder simply leads to disorder. The more orderly a mind is the more the resulting thoughts lead to disorder and such orderly minds produce concrete thinking that has its place in basic managerial functions. Abstract thinking stems from having the ability to coexist in disorder but we need an abstract mind to obtain the order within the disorder. High levels of leadership require greater abstraction. We also have a problem because order and disorder is often confused with disorder as a medical description. If i suffer from a disorder that is not the same thing as what Kauffman described about self-organizing systems.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
Thank you . In chaotic systems we find the two order and disorder oscillating in layers. If management decides to apply to much control then it should expect that under certain rate of mistrust-building that soon the capacity of the organization to hold the negativity of over-controlling will only lead to chaos. You bring a hugely-important point which is we may generate disorder because of extended over-control.

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

Mohammed Abdul Jawad

3 years ago #19

Presumably without a distinctive corporate culture the whole work atmosphere will oscillate between order and disorder. And the controlling management team, with gimmicks and politics, will do nothing except more planning and less execution. What then? There's always a residue of corrupt system that derails everything.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#19
Great point and you remind me of the great comment that @Magdalena-Maria GROSU wrote o the this bizz shred on LI. She makes very strong points and again they are an enforcement to your comment Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris. Order is born out of disorder. In complexity science e have layers od order within the massive layers of chaos.

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

That's very deep! Indeed, order tends to come by organically if it is not forced on people. Lots of start-ups have realized that which is why they tend to avoid the conventional 9-5 approach to work.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#17
Thank you dear Debasish Majumder. I am truly humbled by your kind words and sharing of the buzz. Thank you

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

3 years ago #15

there should not be an iota of doubt that you are an hard core teacher who is master of initiating disorder to a platform to organize it into an order of your choice, which reflects you are phenomenal too sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! you are perhaps by all means an academia. wonderful post sir. enjoyed read and shared. thank you very much for such lovely insightful share.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#13
Absolutely correct dear Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador "how they can toot their own horn rather than seek the needs of the consumer". Feedback must come from customers and their feedback should focus all efforts to organize works. I am 100% in accordance with your comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#12
You are absolutely correct my dear Sara Jacobovici and I fully agree with you "I would encourage a sense of self-organization at that initial stage of engagement". I mentioned in the buzz that timing of balancing is of crucial issue. What you say that we need more order in the interview processes and I fully agree. We need to think when in these cases. Your comment in fact adds support to my idea on timing. As for choices for me they mean offering different solutions, possibilities and paths. When we give this freedom it means that entropy increases and it is from this entropy that order out of nowhere emerges. Too many choices lead to complexity because there shall be less focus on any choice. Choices are a step to discovery of an optimal choice, but if there are too many choices they lead to complexity. Bankers realized that this complexity and are trying now to limit the number of their offerings. I thank you for sharing your splendid layers of thinking.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Brilliant comment yours is dear . Giving choices means offering more directions. Bees and ants know this very well. They explore many options for locations and food sources. Then they select one after which all bees and ants abide by. You have done the same and sharing your experience adds real value to the buzz. Thank you and I love your "try anything approach". I need to explore this great experience in a buzz soon.

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

Excellent strategy, Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. Organizations get carried away with competition thus leaving the consumer confused. They seem more interested in how they can toot their own horn rather than seek the needs of the consumer. Having options is first and foremost in my opinion but present them in an organized manner and give me the opportunity to make my own decisions. I find it interesting that trees seem to know what to do.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

3 years ago #10

The dynamic energy of your buzz grew as I read it and then went on to read your readers' comments Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. A buzz full of rich layers from which to grow that tree of a successful enterprise Dr. Ali. Two things come up for me. One, would be to ask to look at the difference of the school and work environment. What you did was exceptionally insightful so as to engage the students with a course they feared would result in a negative experience. But in the work environment, your argument may highlight the importance of a good entry process; from the interview, orientation to the support and follow up. It never makes sense to me how a company can hire individuals who then engage in unprofessional behavior. Don't they try to be hired? Why do they then "act out"? I would encourage a sense of self-organization at that initial stage of engagement. The second would be to differentiate between choices and complexity. If things, whether products, services, or work expectations, are clear and consistent, then choices become the potential you outline. In reference to your comment in #4, I look forward to the buzz you will write "on self-organization in nature and how they reach this state with spontaneity".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Nice sharing and I am thankful to you my friend

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
Thank you dear and you write a lot about nature and so your comment fall naturally upon me.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
There are a lot to be done and I would love to hear more about your work Brian McKenzie

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

an article that needs you attention! let your awareness grow on the main topic.

Liesbeth Leysen, MSc. beBee Global Brand Ambassador

Love the link with nature. Trees are so inspiring and your article is wonderful, thank you Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#2
Thank you my friend Lisa Vanderburg. Your use of the word spontaneous reflects your deep understanding of the topic. We call self-organization in the context of social studies spontaneous order. Always, soul-enriching to read your comments.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
We try to reach balance, but natural systems have their own way of doing it Pascal Derrien. May be I need to write a buzz on self-organization in nature and how they reach this state with spontaneity

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

3 years ago #2

What a brilliant strategy you applied there Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! Play is by its nature spontaneous, so requires some boundaries even in disorganized structure but it is the best 'rules of engagement' for your students! Nicely played, my friend!

Pascal Derrien

Pascal Derrien

3 years ago #1

Maybe there is no balance and it 's an illusion of a quest, I was thinking (yes it sometimes happen :-) ) is it not replacing one order with a different one so maybe order longevity is the key ? :-)

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