Reverse Leadership

Reverse Leadership

A leader is the one who leads and therefore (s)he must be in the front. This is the familiar. Creativity is turning the familiar to unfamiliar. So, reverse leadership becomes leading from behind. This is unusual. Where is the creativity of this idea?

I published a SlideShare presentation titled Reverse Businesses, in which I showed by example many forms of reverse businesses in life and how these businesses became successful.

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What prompted me to write this buzz without any intentional planning is my reading today’s buzz by Claire L Cardwell. I commented on the buzz by writing β€œ@Claire L Cardwell- enjoyed reading your buzz immensely. I will just give a different comment. You wrote "I expect them to drive badly and would rather have them in front of me, where I can see if they cause an accident, rather than driving me off the road". Sometimes to be a leader you must be in the back. Is this paradoxical? May be, but you offer a great reason for doing it”.

Claire response encouraged me to delay my intended next buzz and publish this one first. She responded β€œ- I think a post on reverse leadership is a great idea - please tag me. Although you will have to check the Wolf Story - it could be a rather popular fabrication I saw on other social media channels”.

What are the advantages of reverse leadership, or leading from behind? First, a leader in the front has always to look back to see his/her followers. In contrast, leading from behind gives the leader the opportunity to scan followers without directly observing them and avoiding the Observant Effect, which may stress followers.

A second reason is that reverse businesses need reverse leaders. Conventional leaders shall lack the creativity and agility if they are leading from front.

A third reason is inspired from nature, which I discussed in my two previous buzzes. Fish, for example, travel in large numbers to avoid predators and dilute their chances of being selected individually. The fish try to occupy the center because it is the least risky position to be in. A leader who acts this way gives a message that (s)he looks for his/her own survival. This will discredit the leader. Like fish experience, when oxygen diminishes in the center, fish try to push a little away to water which still have dissolved oxygen while keeping the farthest possible from the periphery. The leader enters a survival battle. In turbulent times such as those we experience today; a great leader is the one who ventures and is daring to take accountability. A leader stays at the back to oversee the team and test the waters of work but shall only be at the front if new waters are to be tested.

A reverse leader is willing to reverse his/her front position and move to behind of the team. This allows for the team to self-organize, learn, adapt with agility.

Do you find the idea of reverse leaders sensible? Please share your views.


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#166
My pleasure

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#152
Thomas Looby I do thank you for your appreciation.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

1 year ago #133

#150
Lupita \ud83d\udc1d Reyes

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I thank you Claire L Cardwell for your re-sharing this post. I do appreciate it.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#147
Thanks for your appreciation Luke Visser Chappaqua

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #130

#145
@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Thank you Ali ... I am in process Whether in the workplace or in our homes, being a "good leader" or a "good shepherd" influences outcomes. Both in the home and the workplace this an essential quality to exercise as "more is caught than taught" ... We will be talking more ;~) God's rich wisdom & blessing upon your week. In His Light~Fay

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#144
I am glad you enjoyed reading the buzz dear Fay Vietmeier shall be happy for the mention in your comment.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #128

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Ali~ thanks for sharing your wise insights on leadership. The thought that came to me when reading is that Good Leaders are like Good Shepherds Wisdom is required in the role: Good Shepherds know when … where … and how to be in the front of their β€œflock” and when … where … & how to guide and (if need be) guard their β€œflock” from behind. I agree with your friend: @David Navarro LΓ³pez that TRUST is a vital aspect of leadership. Trust, when established over time and proven by action, confirms trustworthiness. In all relationships I trust those who are β€œtrustworthy” The most famous β€œGood Shepherd” was willing to β€œlay down his life for His sheep” … now that is a Shepherd I will follow … I have found him to be a great Guide & most trustworthy ;~)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#142
Great my friend. Tomorrow is a very busy day for me. I shall write and explain why on Saturday.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

1 year ago #126

#141
I have been abroad working, and two weeks on holiday in Spain. In the meantime, I have lost my VIP status here (Sh***t), But will come back to it, I have a couple of buzzes in the kitchen. More details by mail

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#140
My friend David where have you been? We need your brains. Your comment shows your constructive thinking and I add consequential thinking. One results leads to the other. You are a chain thinker because you see the chain as you see the forest and not only the tree. Great comment my friend.

David Navarro LΓ³pez

David Navarro LΓ³pez

1 year ago #124

For any Leader, Trust from the rest of the team is needed, as trust generates compromise, which generates quality, which generates excellence. Being a trustworthy person depends on the leader's integrity, that is, to be coherent, consistent and congruent. A leader who would not put him/her self in the "non-confort zone" would not be taken as a person with integrity, if "swimming at the center", rather than taken leadership, whether it is at the front or at the back lines. A leader who leads "from the back" is one which is allowing more creativity from the team. A nice piece of buzz, my friend

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#138
Thank you John Seckel for your appreciation and for commenting a rather old buzz that has a place in my heart.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#135
Thank you dear for your contribution. Most comments are in agreement with you though some commenters disputed the term reverse leadership. I completely agree with your comment.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#133
Thank you David Quan and I welcome you on board. Trust, but verify is a way out of this chasm. The question is to verify what? Not only ability, but also capacity to learn, to change, to adapt, to understand staff and their shadows to motivate them and become duly self-dependent.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #120

#131
Well thank you Ali that's actually a great compliment - will add it to 'the latest collection' which includes The Chaos Queen who ties knots in 'String Theory" Claire x

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#130
So you have another deep paradox, Claire "wicked sense of humour". I don't blame Mathew for what he requested from you. WE say opposites attract ( not always though), but in your paradoxes that is the hidden beauty. When we interact paradoxes something great emerges. This happens to be my buzz for publishing this afternoon. I wonder what Claire means. I shall not be surprised if it means the beautiful paradox.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #118

Part 2 So I thought to myself 'why not, we are trapped in a room with a load of star struck morons and Mr Superwanker of the millennium (both of them) 20th and 21st. Well let's just say it was worth the wait! Matthew certainly looked rather smug when the room magically cleared. Prof Hans Enysenck took one look at me and said that the whole lecture was about me! I was the classic reason for an immediate removal of my uterus. I looked at him and said Hans my boy, I will show you yours if you show me mine, first of all though I need you to hop into that Dentists Chair. I think that tooth infection has actually spread to your brain and it's too late for Tamoxyfen. Hold on I said, I think I've got some 'gold spot' and a breath mint in my bag to tide you over! He looked quite shocked and then burst out laughing. I think it's a very long time that he had his chain pulled and he got swung around like that. He looked at the white face of Prof Lader (Sir Malcom Lader) and laughed even harder. Say what you want about this Gentleman - he has a wicked sense of humour!

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #117

Oh yes Ali, I actually insulted the eminent grey haired old man in front of the entire staff of the Royal Bethlam and Maudsley Hospital, Institute of Trick Cyclists, Kings College University, London. I had had to listen to yet another lecture about how hysterectomy was the best way of 'handling women who had a bad attitude'... He spent the entire lecture staring at me, so I spent the entire time smiling at him and occasionally licking my lips. I was sitting with the current main 'squeeze' competitor of the month - Matthew, who was a super hot really cool ideal of the Aryan Race. Anyway Blondie and I were late, spectacularly late. The only two seats available were right at the front. So we shrugged I proceeded to say very bad things in French as our reserved seats had been taken. We were trapped after the lecture as we could not even leave our seats as hoards of star struck fools surrounded the man so they could tell each other - he looked at me, guess what I touched his coat. Blah Blah apparently we were viewing the second coming of JC. I made a further sarcastic comment about that silly place in France - Lourdes. Matthew looked at me and said, will you kiss me, I have been asking you for over a month!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#121
Your paradoxes are perplexing with depth Claire L Cardwell "INTELLIGENT IDIOT".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#123
Lucky you Claire L Cardwell. There is nothing equal for me like taking a trip in nature.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #114

#103
My nick name on site is either - Oma (Aunt/Grandmother), Hellfire or the Queen of Chaos who deliberately ties knots in the string theory ...

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #113

#108
Phil Friedman - if he wanted any Chili seeds - they were in my handbag - which is a very fancy version of a kitbag or haversack. i also have lots of other seeds and small stones for my CATTI.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #112

#112
Phil Friedman as far as I am concerned - you never ever have to apologise for me, for any imagined slights (on my part) in the past, present or future! I dig your interesting comments on posts. Reminds me of the debates I held with Ben Mepham my Philosophy and Logic Professor at Nottingham University from 1987-1990. I quickly learnt to check the glint in his eye... A trap was about to be sprung... Would I fall into it or Spring that TRAP??

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #111

@AliAnandi - still the tag doesn't work.. I had an epic trip today through a forest near my home. A half an hour walk turned into a further 3 hour trek. I did however sit by BLACK POND and I observed the Chinese Mandarin Ducks Attitude to the badly behaved Male Drake Mallards disgusting behaviour. Very interesting. Watching the Chinese approach at work.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #110

#109
Rear Admiral Phil Friedman - do you really have a an issue of giving a 'lift' to the Official and Sole Commander of the Blue Ball Brigade... (I got that Title when I was 3 after practicing physics on a large Chesterfield sofa - fulcrum dynamics or some crap like that). I was n that weird place in Kensington, London with the 3 doors in a street with no numbers...

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #109

#111
Ali Anandi - I can only conclude that this chap is an Intelligent Idiot from the Eynsenck Personality Questionaire, I still have my copy, it's very funny! It's titled ARE YOU NUTS? BATSHIT CRAZY, HAVE THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE will automatically buy into your LIES AND DELUSIONS or simply an "INTELLIGENT IDIOT...

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #108

#112
Phil Friedman - that's why we enjoy your participation in these debates on BB and everywhere else. You love being in the 'thick of things'...

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #107

#112
Phil Friedman - Occasionally I issue my 'commands' in Mirror Writing - with lemon juice invisible writing or in ink that only works under a 'black light'.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #106

#115
YUP - Intense MICRO MANAGEMENT is sometimes part of the job... It's fucking boring - but hey if they won't listen the first 3 times then the shit will hit the fan...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#115
Thank you Preston \ud83d\udc1d Vander Ven- your comment is great as it inspires me with some ideas how to deal with chaos.

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #104

I inadvertently removed part I of my last remark. But my comment is shorter without it, so I am not inclined to reconstruct it. I just don’t want anyone to search for it. Cheers!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#112
I am reading the comments and still digesting them. I just want to say that I wasn't the one who coined Reverse Leadership. However; if I didn't believe in it I would have avoided using it. So, Phil I am just reading the comments before i respond. Thank you

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #102

Harvey, it is not difficult to string morphemes together in new and wonderous combinations, but it does not follow that what you are then writing or saying has any genuine meaning. I am not saying it doesn't or cannot; I am saying that it is necessary to explore whether the "new words" represent new or different concepts and, if so, what those are. . This consideration is separate and distinct (at a meta-level) from discussing different views of "leadership". But for the moment, let's consider that example since it's already raised its head. From my perspective, the term "leadership" (and its related terms such as "leader") has achieved the level of a popular label which (almost) everyone wants to stick on themselves. So genuine leaders being few and far between, the coaches of enhanced self-image have been working overtime to change the commonly operating meaning of "leadership" to include just about anyone and everyone in the herd -- or at least to enable all to aspire to leadership. . I find it interesting and meaningful that Simon Sinek, the contemporary Guru of leadership whom you mention, says things like, "Leaders are the ones who have the courage to go first, to put themselves at personal risk to open a path for others to follow...” but does not, as far as I have been able to determine, talk about leading from the middle or leading from the rear. Others do, of course. But unpacking these latter two terms results in descriptions more apropos of "inspiration (a Sinek pet term), influence, guidance, mentoring" and the like. So I see the terms "leading from the middle" and "leading from the rear" as being recently-coined aspiring popular labels that are meant to play on some of the common connotations of "leading" but really have little to do with that common understanding. (Cont… Pt. II)

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #101

@Harvey – Pt. II - To be clear, we can, at will, string together two or more words and "make" new words to write or speak. But the critical question is whether such new words elucidate anything meaningful or are additive in any significant respect or do they instead simply befuddle. For instance, is "leading from the rear" the equivalent of "reverse leadership"? If there is inspiration in the world, does that mean there is also "reverse inspiration"? I think we need to be careful not to delude ourselves that our β€œnew” concatenations of morphemes ipso facto have genuine meaning. . Right in this discussion, the assertion is made, for example, that reading is the reverse of writing -- which sounds catchy enough but is plain wrong if we take a moment to think about it. In a previous, admittedly facetious remark, I said the reverse of writing is erasing. To be more serious, I submit that an important truth is contained in answering the question, namely, that reading is the complement of writing and that writing which is not read is no better existentially than a blank page. . I apologize to Ali for disrupting this discussion of his post, if indeed I have. My only objective has been to plead a lesson from "The Wisdom of Chung King" (ca 650 AD), to wit, "Do not mistake obscurity for depth of thought, nor shallowness for clarity." And to try my hand at leading from the middle. Cheers! cc: Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#110
Harvey Lloyd- I enjoyed reading your comment and in particular "Sharing experiences with the nuanced understanding of others is a journey of learning. To single out from your experience a single aspect of the journey tends to miss the point". I recall testing a research paper by a student to qualify for graduation. In his research he distributed thirty samples and the student got one response. SO, I asked the student what would happen if the interviewee said no instead of yes. I then drew a dot on a paper and asked him to draw a straight line passing through the dot. He did. I then asked him why not this straight line, or this, or that? And then how do you know if it is a straight line, and not the center of a curve, for example? The student voluntarily said that he felt he didn't qualify for graduation and offered to repeat his search. I heard people say "I noticed once...) and then they drew many conclusions from once.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

2 years ago #99

#109
I dont disagree with your analysis of the way we currently repackage ideas. I also think that when we go off script to explore new ideas, entering chaos, we lack words for the new exploration. Many new ideas or thoughts to the processes that exist in stone need separation and words are all we have to separate. Although your view from where you sit is accurate it does not mean accuracy from another's position. I sense you would agree that 16 year old you was on a steep learning curve to today. There are many on the spectrum of learning and experienceing. The process of learning the nuances of leadership is quite the curve. Articles on leadership run the gambit of these nuances. I dont think it plausible to shut each down over etymology concerns. Sharing experiences with the nuanced understanding of others is a journey of learning. To single out from your experience a single aspect of the journey tends to miss the point. Your point is a concern within academia where words mean specific things that will be tested and scored. In the real world we explore without these shackles of being scored. We can investigate through trial and error and through open discussion about the nuances of leadership, within the spectrum of wisdom. Your narrow focus of etymology removes this opportunity. I believe the audience here has this basic understanding of the concept. I also believe that you have much to contribute to the nuances of leadership. Yet you choose, out of many aspects of your wisdom. to neutralize the concept by introducing what I believe to be a straw man for something else. The advanced readers here (and even those just harnessing the nuances of leadership) could use your thoughts and experiences in their humble growth towards better leadership.

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #98

Harvey, my point is not about leadership or how we describe or analyze it. As far as I am concerned, you are (intellectually) free if you so choose to redefine "leadership" in a way that enables you to talk about "leading" from the middle or the rear. I personally would prefer to speak (more accurately) not about "leadership" in these cases, but more of influencing (or as Sinek would say, "inspiring") the progress and direction of a project, a group, or an organization, and being able, at times, to do so with more effect from a "middle or rear" perspective or position. . As I see it, there is little to be gained from disputing how to characterize such influence... unless you then try to draw more out of the characterization of such middle-position or read-end influence by attributing to it all the more common attributes of "leadership". Because what you are then playing on is, in fact, the usual meaning of the term, and not strictly attending to the implications of the re-made meaning. Cont... Pt. II

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #97

@Harvey - Pt. II - . For example, what would you think if you, I, and "George" were in a conversation after a heated meeting of about twenty participants... and I said, "Wow, raising that issue was like biting into a green chili pepper". Then looked over to see George on his hands and knees scouring the carpet under the meeting table. And asked, "What in the world are you doing George?" And he called up earnestly, "Looking for the dropped Chili seeds." . Metaphors, models, and meanings are intellectually tricky things to fiddle with on a casual basis, lest you end up with a redux of Germanic metaphysics. :-) And it pays (again, intellectually, IMO) to be careful when drawing conclusions based on the meanings of terms when those terms have not been well-established in common usage. And even then, I am frankly not one to be slavish to the catchy terms, such as "leading from the rear", that are coined by popular "thinkers". For in my experience, the perceived most direct path to literary lionhood is to coin such catchy and often oxymoronic terms. FWIW. Cheers!

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

2 years ago #96

Phil, Many of us have not gone on as many adventures as yourself, we are still learning to understand the componants of leadership. What a leader can learn from different perspectives of their cause and effect decisions is amazing. Media has picked up on this and made reality shows where the leaders go to the rear and understand the reality of their decisions. They go to the rear or reverse their view of things and see a different reality. It is very easy for leaders to get in the ivory tower and forget the law of unintended consequences. This would lead me to believe that the post was referring to humility in leadership by reverseing our view through the rear of the organization and gathering information. Does the choice i made at the front get to the rear the way i had expected? Or, do i assume that all is well at the rear and continue forward? What would we call this process within leadership where we do go to the rear and access the outomes? Maybe i made an assumption, but it is typically understood at this level of communication we all share the dictionary definition of Leadership. We also know, the bookstore has several lined walls about the topic. The reason for this is that the word covers a lot more than what Merrian-Webster can provide. Simon Sinek has a great video describing this concept. https://youtu.be/qp0HIF3SfI4

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Thank you Clau Valerio for sharing the buzz in a Spanish hive.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#104
Thank you Lads. The issue for me is that we understand the issue better. It is a learning journey. I appreciate this comment greatly.

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #93

#101
Ali, I read your presentation, and I understood what you meant when you write "reverse author" because you explained it. But when you say "reverse author" or "reverse reader" without any additional context, it doesn't mean flipping roles. People could think it's about the writer who writes in reverse order. The same is with "reverse reader." Just by adding the word "reverse" we can't always get a meaningful term. Some terms, especially coined words or phrases, required context to be understandable.

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #92

@Claire, I will try to clarify what I was saying previously -- not very well, I admit. There are numerous different ways to guide the operations and direction of an "enterprise". You can "guide" people from amidst them as a peer mentor or similar. Or you can "drive" or "push" the group along from the "rear" as a kind of prodder. But you cannot "lead" from the "middle" or from "behind" because the term "lead" has a common (and pregnant) meaning. And to distort that meaning is to confuse not only the thinking of others but your own thinking as well. Take, for instance, osmosis and reverse osmosis. They are not, in fact, the "reverse" of one another. Osmosis is the passage of water or other molecules through a semi-permeable membrane from one side with lower osmotic potential to the other side with higher osmotic potential. Reverse osmosis is also osmosis except that artificially introduced pressure on the side that normally has higher osmotic potential changes that side to have lower potential and thus drives the passage of molecules in a direction that is reversed to the normal. But it does not actually "reverse" osmosis as a process. My point is that you can fool yourself into thinking your examples are actually telling you something when they are not. I believe that you can see the excesses of this, for example, in unilaterally deciding that reading is the reverse of writing -- which it is clearly not. For the only reverse of writing is erasing. Just as the reverse of "building" is "wrecking". BTW, the architectural example is for you. :-) I agree that language has a life of its own and it is fluid and changes. But when we start to arbitrarily designate new meanings for words, then extrapolate conclusions based on those arbitrary new meanings, we pave the way for either intellectual KS (chaos) or BS (you can translate this latter for yourself). Cheers!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

SOmehow the idea of emulsions (droplets of a liquid suspended in another liquid) crossed my mind. For example, water droplets in oil are called regular emulsions. Oil droplets in water are called reverse emulsions. The role exchanged. Each type serves in certain conditions. Sometimes we may even have the two together and this is what we call this oil-in-water-in oil. Just by reversing the roles, we get new uses.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#100
I am reversing my role from an author to a reader Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic. I wonder if you had time to read the linked presentation on Reverse Businesses (link is in the body of this buzz).. The reverse of buyer to seller and seller to buyer is one example. It is only to describe the flip of roles. I hope I made myself understood.

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #89

#98
Ali, I think that the term "reverse author" isn't quite well. Is there a "reverse reader?" :-) Perhaps we should stop reversing. :-)

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #88

#94
Phil, I need to read your comment several times before responding. There is a lot to ponder.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I received a message from a fellow bee why i am not responding to all comments as readers are used to. I am now practicing my role as "author from behind". You may call me "reverse author". The readers are the authors. I am just observing the stage and reading the comments. I am enjoying this role for now.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #86

In essence Phil Friedman - In my opinion the characteristics of a GOOD LEADER are flexibility, the ability to see THE BIG PICTURE, a handle on the stuff (legal admin etc. etc - which is quite boring)... To hires great people to handle all the small print - which he will study in detail and lets his people get on with it! TRUST. Oh yeah - and NOT TO LOOK DOWN ON HIS STAFF - no matter how menial because they are not sitting on the board.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #85

I have digressed horribly Phil Friedman... Very sorry! As far as I am concerned the essence of a good leader is to follow the model of Richard Branson's style of leadership. He basically sits in his eerie thinking of how to do yet another business opportunity, travelling the world and doing effective charitable work. He is constantly on the go and has several note books to jot down ideas as he thinks of them. I also love notebooks. OK so if that is 'leading from the rear' or 'reverse leadership' then that is that. He simply has an overview of pretty much everything be it marketing, legal stuff, some accounting and the staff he hires. He has an ethic of a) making sure his staff are valued for their contributions and is not afraid of saying - you are not a good sales man - but you are super organised. How about you try the accountancy department for a change? He DOES NOT MICROMANAGE in anyway. He has excellent key people working for him and basically has a circular way of managing the business. He makes a point of visiting EVERY branch in EVERY country at least once a year to cheer up the troops and let them know that they are very important to him. He is also not afraid to hang out in the middle or indeed park off on Nekker Island!

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #84

Phil Friedman - excellent points here. The thing is that a lot of people writing about 'leadership' or the 'Top 10 characteristics of being a Good Entrepreneur' have never ever been in that position. They also think that getting 'loans' and 'credit' right at the company launch is a good idea... I started my business with R1000 and a Pentium 3 computer. I have never applied for credit etc. (I don't even have an 'over-draft' facility). I live within my means. If that mean sushi for lunch and chocolate cake for breakfast in times of plenty - and only eating one small meal a day at other times then - so be it. However the last 3 years have been a complete distraction. A total of 9 legal battles in the last 3 years (fortunately nothing this year - fantastic). 3 hospitlisations in 2015, 2016 qne 2017 (that was over 3 weeks by the way) at the Crescent Rehabilitation Clinic - I admitted myself on ALL THREE OCCASSIONS - plus 3 deaths of treasured staff member and my main Mentor (he died in May last year; have been difficult. I still owe my lawyer R5,000 - that debt is about 2 years old. I have the means now of paying him back immediately - even though he wrote me a letter cancelling the debt. A debt is a debt.

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #83

#92
Look, Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic, you can, of course, create new words or give new meanings to established usage. For language is a living thing that changes and evolves. However, that is not my point -- which is that when you use language (observable) as a *model* for either a conceptual system (inferrable) or reality (again, inferrable only), and propose to explore the meanings of and inter-relationship of words as a means of learning things about the concepts and/or the reality involved, you need to be meticulous in using those words in the meanings that have grown up organically. To fail to do so is to give up any chance of to reaching beyond the model to an intuition of the conceptual net or the underlying reality. For example, if as an engineer you decide to change the established meanings of the terms of the mathematical models you use to design the structure of bridges, you risk having your bridge fall down. For the mathematical terms which have grown organically to be used are those which have proven successful and so imply what I call an "isomorphism" with underlying reality, whereas arbitrarily made up terms may very well not. And when they don't disaster ensues. In the case of purely intellectual pursuits, that disaster consists of self-delusion. IMO, anyway. Cheers!

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #82

#87
The Blind Leading the Blind Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic! Who was it who said "The One Eyed Man is the King in the world of the Blind?"

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #81

#72
Phil, I agree with you about the use of the term "reverse leadership" from the linguistic and logical point of view. But as we can see, this term is widely in use in the leadership terminology. There is even the new principle of leadership - leading from the middle which is considered as the future of being a leader. So, perhaps the terms are somewhat paradoxical, but explanations of such principles in leadership have sense. A leader can lead from the front, from the behind and from the middle. :-) Given the fact that I am not much interested in the leadership topic, I do not bother with such things. But sometimes, after searching the web, I have a feeling that everybody is obsessed with the leadership issue. Too many blogs are full of advice on how to lead, communicate, motivate and so on. People commented, and everybody has an opinion on leadership. What I would like to see is more articles on a follower's role in leadership, and I'm not thinking of passive and uncritical followers and Yes people. After all, can it be successful leadership without effective and appreciated followership?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#90
Thank you Jennifer Leach-Trask and I appreciate your feedback

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #79

Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic - I also find the 'Shepherd' analogy a bit blah. But when you think about it - you have sheepdogs and often riders on horses to co-ordinate. The 2018 International Sheep Dog Trials have been on the Telly here in old Blighty. Here is the link to the current Welsh Finalists. The average time it took one dog and his owner to get the sheep into the base was about 6 and a half minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZvgQDtgFBg There is also a longer video of the Irish guys doing their thing! It was not helped right at the beginning with another dog coming onto the field to help. Sheepdogs love herding sheep - I've even seen them herding ducks, chickens and groups of small children... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdrwm-8c354 This one was tricky, it was a herd of entire young rams - complete with horns and a seriously bad ass attitude. I can highly recommend sending this link to someone who is complaining about 'herd mentality' etc. etc.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#87
+Yes, and it is the singer and not the song

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #77

#86
I agree, but unfortunately far many don't study nature to extract wisdom. They are just blind followers.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#85
We study nature to extract lessons and wisdom. Humans aren't ants and yet we learned from ants how to redesign our plane journeys to hubs. Humans aren't bees, but we learnt from the engineering of hives a lot. We learnt from fish the conflict between being in the center and not having enough oxygen to breathe. We learnt from trees a lot about negative pressure. All I am saying we observe nature and then try to elucidate what is good for us dear Lada.

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #75

#73
#75 Dear Ali, in the article you mentioned, Mandela equated leading from behind with shepherding. I am not particularly fond of that word because it reminds me of a flock of sheep, although many people behave like that. By the way, a flock of sheep is a good model for the human behaviour in general, as shown in many cases. But why do people want to be guided like sheep? The flock or herd mentality is excellently explained in this article, https://psychcentral.com/news/2008/02/15/herd-mentality-explained/1922.html If there is leading from behind and from the front, I wonder if there is leading from the middle. And yes, there is. :-) To me, the best quote about leadership is one attributed to Lao Tze: A leader is best when people barely know he exists...

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #74

Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic - whilst we are at it, let's not forget the strongest gear in a car. Reverse Gear. You can go as fast as 50mph (about 80kph) in reverse for a short periods without doing irreparable damage to your car. V. handy when a Rhino Bull is charging towards you at high speed. The handbrake J-Turn I did about 150 metres (+/- 300ft) up a sand road, was also quite impressive (if I do say myself - I think it was mainly due to the great curve of sand that was kicked up into the air). That was in 1999/2000 - I did have to replace the clutch in 2014 and have the gear box reconditioned in 2015. The car had done nearly 250,000 kilometres at for my first clutch change!

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #73

#79
Stephan - I find that simply not having a 'smart fone' that is connected 24/7 to anything and limiting my SM time to a few hours a day on a laptop or desktop works wonders for my productivity. A very big chunk of my time during the day is allocated to going to building sites, kicking up a fuss, driving around and having intense conversations with my clients - a delicate 'smart phone' with a short battery life simply does not work. Plus the constant beeping (just set to email notifications is totally distracting and I would probably destroy that phone...). I have 3 Nokias - one is about 20 years old, the other is about 10 years old and another is a 7 year old 'spare'. Their battery life is over a week with light usage for receiving calls and sending sms's (texts) and about 4 days with heavy usage. I am STILL using the original batteries that were supplied with the phones. I have friends who can order an uber for me and I have a superb GPS system in my car - an atlas, a map book and just for a treat an old copy of an ordinance survey map! GPS makes you stupid and you do not concentrate on where you are going - so if it fails, you are lost and by lost - I do not mean lost somewhere and you have to drive around a wee bit, I am talking lost in the SA sense. Lost by going into 'no go' areas - I spent a bit of time in Yeoville just before a riot was about to start about a week after I arrived in Joburg. A very smartly dressed gentleman approached me and said "I would turn your car around and drive in the opposite direction - right now!" 'It really isn't safe for any unaccompanied women to be here". I said I am Lost, he said 'You will be LOST if you don't go that way as fast as you can.' Yup 120kph driving through a 'zone' with fridges and washing machines etc. etc. being thrown out of the flats above me was quite exciting.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#81
This is a vivid and living comment Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #71

#76
That's a small pack - a splinter group or part of a series of advance scouting parties. The big pack that follows is the seriously impressive organisation I've been banging on about Pascal Derrien - to be honest my info has come from watching Wildlife Docs, chatting to people who have semi tame wolves (those guys are huge!) and also watching other collaborations - like Lion Prides for example. All of them working together, young, old, experienced, male, female in harmony. The main job of the Alpha Male is to provide security and stability - like a good ship's captain etc. etc. What I also found fascinating was after a lot of conversations (actually I was mainly listening to the stories, I do love a good story!) with experienced commanders in the military forces - like the Sappers, SAS, Signals etc. etc. is how they also found that organising themselves along similar lines worked very well. Women and Children had a different role, strategic planning, communications and being saboteurs as their main job. Oh yes the kiddies were listened to. Indulged a wee bit and tucked back into bed - 'out of the mouths of babes' was a constant refrain.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#79
To the contrary I shall activate FB notifications on my mobile stephan metral \ud83d\udc1d Innovative Brand Ambassador

stephan metral 🐝 Innovative Brand Ambassador

#61
HahaHa FB is really optional, but as I cover 16000 viewers weekly, the article and its owner deserved exposure. If by adventure mind and daring you get Facebook Light on your smartphone, just deactivate notifications in the settings so you won't be bothered by all these popping messages. It is only about giving facebooker the opportunity to have thoughts for the mind, which is rare in these hard times. Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

There are great comment of this buzz on its sharing on LinkedIn. If your time would allow the readers to read them they shall find them thought-provoking: https://bit.ly/2Ipwu2s

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#76
This is a great comment Pascal Derrien mentioned the same example, but forgot the citations. Could you please provide the link to this article? Thank you

Pascal Derrien

Pascal Derrien

2 years ago #66

Read an article this week on wolves travelling as a pack. The strongest at the front as you may expect but not all of them, the weakest, cubs etc in the middle with one two strong guys while the rearguard is composed of very strong individuals maybe not so much in terms of numbers but experience :-)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#74
Amazing, because while you posting this comment dear Lada, I was writing a message to thank you for your explanatory comment. Coincidence again is working. I posted my previous comment #73 to remove any doubt that the concept of leadership from behind is emerging and that I have tried to give a scientific reasoning for its applicability.

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #64

#71
Yes, Ali. I was just referring to the term "reverse" in reverse engineering or back engineering, which is dealing with some sort of deconstruction and detailed examination of the product or process, to creating something similar. My comment is actually an extended answer to your question about the reversing in accounting. The term "reverse" is used in many different concepts; such as reverse marketing, reverse logistics, reverse leadership ...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Dear readers. I have just read this post published in the esteemed Harvard Business Reviews. Leading from Behind - Harvard Business Review https://hbr.org/2010/05/leading-from-behind May 5, 2010 - For now and into coming decade or so, the most effective leaders will lead from behind, not from the front β€” a phrase I’ve borrowed from none other than Nelson Mandela. In his autobiography, Mandela equated a great leader with a shepherd: β€œHe stays behind the flock, letting. The post says "... the most effective leaders will lead from behind, not from the front".

Phil Friedman

Phil Friedman

2 years ago #62

#70
Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic, I believe your intellectual instincts here are excellent. There is an entire genre of philosophy, born at Oxford University but widely followed, that is based on the view β€œ... philosophical problems as rooted in misunderstandings philosophers develop by forgetting what words actually mean in a language, and taking them in abstraction and out of context.....” (https://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_ordinary_language.html#History). The problem here, IMO, is that there is an attempt to β€œunpack” or explore how the direction of intellectual and other forms of development are sometines guided by forces that atre not at or in the forefront of our awareness β€” but the attempt proceeds by way of forcing a distorted meaning onto the term β€œleadership”. In fact (of actual linguistic usage), you can steer or guide or drive from the rear but you cannot β€œlead” from the rear because the essence of the meaning of β€œlead” is to be at the head of the β€œline”. It is, therefore, a misstep to force a distirted meaning onto the term β€œleadership” then seek to elucidate a concept of β€œreverse leadership”. For to do so has you drawing conclusions based on a false premise, namely, that β€œreverse leadership” has independent meaning in the first place as a concept (which it dies not). IMO, if one is going to pursue philosophical exploration by means of conceptual analysis, one needs to scrupulously avoid circulaty, that is, assuming in the premises part or all of that which one is concluding. And if one chooses to use language as an isomorphic model of our conceptual system (for the purpose of exploring that system), one needs to assure that one is not distorting the actual meanings of the term or terms involved. Cheers!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#70
Thank you Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic. However; doing engineers serves a purpose as reverse leadership does. They make us see things differently. You remind me of the Golden Circle. The core is why followed by how in the middle and what on the periphery. Most literature calls for working from the core to the periphery (start from why). In reverse thinking (and engineers are) we start from what towards why. This change of direction may reveal new insights.

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

2 years ago #60

The term "reverse", when applied to engineers or engineering, have a different meaning than in reverse leadership. It is a learning tool, a process or a skill by which we understand something manufactured by extracting information and knowledge from it or simply put, going backwards in the developing process.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Chris \ud83d\udc1d Guest- I am trying to extend the scope of this buzz and I need your help. Do you terms like reverse accounting? Is the concept of reversing used in accounting? Thank you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#66
Agreed

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#65
I understand you much better now my friend. Moving in a circle, but with constant radius, or a growing one? Why not oscillating around a center line? I could envisage other shapes. SO much to think about. In my next buzz I shall show another case in which two opposites may move in a triangular shape. Simple ideas, which find no simple answers and so intrigue the mind.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

2 years ago #56

Context informs the leadership position especially in more adaptive and challenging environments.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
Oh- I have just realized that you responded to the comment of Roberto De la Cruz Utria

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#55
The comment of Clau Valerio is having a bad cold and she will explain her thoughts as soon as she feels better.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#54
Roberto De la Cruz Utria- a leader shouldn't do what others can do for him/her. This is when delegation is healthy and frees the leaders' time to do other important work. I second your thoughts and I feel comfortable with them.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#53
Thank you stephan metral \ud83d\udc1d Innovative Brand Ambassador and a n encouraging comment from you is a source of great motivation. I shall try to look up your FB page because I don't have an FB account.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#52
Dear Clau Valerio- take my advice please and expand your comment into a dedicated buzz. It is subtle, offers ideas and is worthy of building on. I salute you for you have a thoughtful and inquisitive mind. I hope you would accept my advice. Please let me know. If not, then I shall expand on my response.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#51
Yes, I don't dispute your thoughts my dear Debasish Majumder. But, was it enough to be a front leader always? Nature tells us that great leaders voluntarily lead from behind to observe and watch from distance. I am not saying that a great leader isn't a front leader. I am saying (s)he is both front and behind leader and the swinging between the two.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#49
My dear Edward Lewellen- you thoughts are rational and make sense. I wish if your time would allow you to read my presentation. Just click on the image in the body of the buzz. I suggest this because your "full circle" though may be extensible to other area. May be you are opening a new approach in our thinking. I shall then talk again.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #48

#41
Nice to hear - a Ph slighty above 7 is always good!

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #47

#36
Jerry Fletcher - the premise is as far as I understand it is that a good leader checks things out from a strategic distance. He lets everyone do their jobs etc. and checks in on them and gives them encouragement. However when needed he circles around and takes a stance at the front, together with his alpha boys - the strongest young males and females then protect the rest of the pack. Good leadership is about cooperation and standing together when it counts.

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Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

2 years ago #45

#25
thank you for the tagging sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! thank you very much for enrich us with your wisdom unlike the reverse osmosis you explained i guess.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#48
I only published this buzz few hours ago and so you aren't late Jerry. You are welcome anytime. You have a great point here in that we need a mix of leaders of both at the front and behind leaders. This is a viable way because not many leaders can make the switch as needed. We discussed the control and command leadership on the shared buzz on LI. Comments are in agreement with yours.

Jerry Fletcher

Jerry Fletcher

2 years ago #43

Dr. Ali, Sorry to come late to this discussion. There are a number of great points here particularly those which hover around the command & Control model adapted to the new world by having leaders exchange places with followers. Because I'm an old military guy I understand the C&C model and the general being in the rear. But I'm also very cognizant of the role of junior officers and non-coms who lead at the tip of the sword. All organizations have people in both roles. All organizations require leaders out in front and in the rear. And so it goes

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

The idea of reverse brain is receiving attention on the shared copy of this buzz on LinkedIn. Because dear Clau Valerio is interested in medicine may have her thoughts on this issue.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#45
I strongly agree with you Roberto De la Cruz Utria as I said in my previous comment

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#43
A t least we need both of leadership styles Roberto De la Cruz Utria, though the tilt should be towards leadership from behind. I enjoyed your reasoning and it makes a great contribution to the discussion. I fully agree with motivation is far greater for teams lead from behind.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#40
Thank you for the link Claire (what does your name mean by the way?) and I shall visit Amazon later today.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
Oh Claire this sounds very interesting because almost at the age of 12 I realized my love for chemistry. I wanted to explore and dive in the unknown. I used to hate biology, but later realized its importance and started to read more of biology. I believe purpose serves a lot in deciding what we like to study. I tested the acidity of your comment and it is mildly alkaline with no sour taste.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #37

#28
Thanks for the link Ali! I think you will enjoy this book - I read it years ago and it's fantastic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Banyan_Tree_and_Other_Stories it's by a chap called RK Narayan and his writing is superb. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._K._Narayan Time to visit Amazon again I think!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#37
@Bill King- this is a fantastic comment and that situational leadership may serve us best if the leader is at the front and in other conditions behind. It is a stunning example and I am sure both Claire L Cardwell will engage and amuse its depth and meaning. Honestly, your comment is plain, simple, deep and it is my turn to get my wheels spinning. A profound comment with deep meaning it is.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #35

#31
Ali Anani - the problem with thinking with our reverse brain (or hind brain) - (I was taught this at Nottingham, and Kings) is that it is primarily concerned with the survival bits - breathing, eating etc. etc. Whilst it's vitally important and we can not do without normal physiological functions - it's the cerebral cortex that is the fun bit when it comes to philosophical debates. However a form of 'marriage' intrigues me.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #34

#30
Ali - now it's getting interesting - the fun I had testing the ph of various different tinctures, acids, alkalis (sp) and water samples in my chemistry lab at school 1000 years ago. Titration and seeing copper sulphate dissolve in water was fantastic. Unfortunately organic chemistry (as opposed to the 'real chemisty') was totally beyond me - I was a disappointment to my Dad (who studied a double - Organic Chemistry and Physics - he put himself through University after being forced to leave school and get a job when he was about 12. I was a dab hand at HPLC though but that was about 500 years ago. Took me a long time to master it, but master it I did. Extracting caffeine from saliva samples was messy at best.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
I am pondering on this idea and I thank you for inviting Ian Weinberg

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #32

#31
Ali Anandi - a Reverse Brain? Wow - that sounds fascinating ! Ian Weinberg - what do our brain surgeon and neuro whizz kid think?

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #31

#29
You are so right Harvey Lloyd - it's very hard to see those people as anything but the bad guys. I remember meeting a NF bloke on a train station (we were in Loughborough and on the way to London, I was about 18 or 19 at the time). I looked at him, he was very unhappy, his fingers were bitten down to the quick and he was shaking. I actually felt pity for him. I was too scared to actually speak to him. The thing is racism is learnt, so can be unlearnt (a new word!) - I think that one of the best ways of teaching these people (what ever colour or creed they are) that we are all human beings is to get them to work in refugee camps for a minimum of a year, observe the suffering for themselves and see how many of these guys actually buy into their various supremist (sp) views. How many of them will enjoy watching the suffering of little children - how many of them will not think seriously about what is going on, when they have to console and feed a crying child, tend to the wounds of their parents etc. etc.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

My dear friend Edward Lewellen- being a brainy man with focus on human brains what do you think of "reverse brain". I know of reverse brain drain, but I wonder if reverse brain drain is rather limiting because it focuses only on the negative aspects of reversing our brains.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#29
What appears on the surface is different sometimes from what goes inside. Water surface doesn't behave with its surface tension like the rest of the body water. More, the surface of water is directly connected to its environment and hence has different challenges than the body water. The body of water man have depth and the deeper we go it may then behave different at its various levels. Take ocean water and the challenges of darkness and lack of light among the challenges they face as just one example. Moreover; what dissolves in the body of water, do we form emulsions of ideas or suspension of ideas? Or, do they dissolve? To resolve conflicts by dissolving them may be the way to go. These are the ideas that your comment inflated my mind with Harvey Lloyd will come up with. I am just curious.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

2 years ago #28

#24
On the political side of things i get the points made between Claire L Cardwell, but here is excel to thought experienment of getting above the fish tank or reverse leadership. The various groups driving the political extremism we are seeing have points to make. What are the points? Above the fish tank we can find these major points of discussion. In the fish tank we can only resonate with their solutions and how they might affect our experience. So we set up defensive positions. If we wish to lead we only have one recourse. We have to define the points and agree that the points are valued. Methods of meeting the points is a tough discussion but one that can happen if we can secure the points first, and not discuss behaviour. I am a conservative. But my liberal counter parts make a good argument that within conservative politics, opportunity and not outcome is important, many get left behind. This is a valid point. How we address the point is what we need cool minds to attend. But we cant have cool minds if each side decides to play identity politics and determine the other just needs to go.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#19
Claire L Cardwell- you kindled my interest and I have just read this interesting article- 10 things you need to know about banyan trees https://underthebanyan.blog/2016/.../10-things-you-need-to-know-about-banyan-trees... It iis an amazing tree and it has inspired me with two ideas. I shall share them soon. keep bursting my mind

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#26
Thank you Lisa Laporte

Lisa Laporte

Lisa Laporte

2 years ago #25

Fantastic article!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#24
Dear Debasish Majumder

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #23

#10
@Debasish (can't tag you either...oops - must check and see if you are 'on my list!' Your comment is very true, DT's stance on anyone who is not a white, protestant male is rather 10th Century. However it's catching - the Labour Party in the UK has joined in. Let's bash the Jews (not to be confused with the radical Zionists), all the Muslims (Its the Shiites (sp?) who are the radicalised arm not the Sunnis or the Suffis who are the peace loving people). Let's allow 'white supremacist' idiots to accuse black people (or anyone with a semi permanent suntan) of some made up crap. Let's kill off anyone who is an independent thinker, who works hard and becomes a success through dogged determination and flippin' hard work... It's not easy to become a Doctor, Lawyer or Accountant - irrespective of where you come from or what moral guidelines you follow. It's certainly very difficult to become a successful business leader - it requires creative thinking every day. The question is will we allow the 'born again' Stalins, Mussolinis and Hitlers to have their way and keep silent. Silence is Complicity, it's a tacit agreement with people who follow the 'divide and rule' policy. .

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

2 years ago #22

#20
Just for clarity here i would say my version of metaphysical is that β€œme in self awareness”. My fears, prides and other metaphysical properties that i might apply to my view from above the fish tank. I need to use caution in bringing those biases associated with those properties. One of my fearful biases is that i dont like rocking the boat, and if you are you had better be able to say that roacking it is worthy of the end game you pronounce. So i judge change harshly from above the fish tank. I cant let this bias blind me to the fact that the risk of staying the same may be greater than the change would cause. So metaphysical is a property that we all drag in front of the view whether behind above or in the fish tank. Just know you bring this with you and you can identify when that bias is bending you. Then you can ask someone who doesnt have skin in the game to compare your bend against.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Bill King- I have no doubt you shall have great comments if you read the comments here. I hope your time would allow.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#19
You sprayed few water drops on my skin Claire L Cardwell because every comment you write stirs a new idea in my head. You too are creating a troubled mind for me with the flow of ideas. I wish I were the Banyan tree! A small notice- I noticed more than once you typed mu surname Anandi and not Anani. May be this is why my name doesn't get highlighted. The paradox here is that by you "dimming" my mind you glow it.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #19

#12
Harvey Lloyd - I really love the way you bring the metaphysical (quantum dynamics I guess?) into the business world. No Man is an Island. We are all affected by the company we keep and the thoughts we conceive.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #18

#15
@AliAnandi - I love Banyan Trees! I read a piece about the benefits of actually hugging a tree, and think I will definitely give it a try in the next couple of days - no Banyan trees in Surrey alas! Perhaps Kew Gardens can oblige.... Osmosis is also very cool - however a wee bit of moisture at the top is required to draw the liquid up, whether it's in a tree or with coloured water in a lab. It's like the law of attraction or some sort of 'water magnetism' is required.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
There has been so much written about employee disengagement and why it happens and causes of it. With all honest, you provide a very thrilling explanation for disengagement and effective communication. Again, you arouse my interest in completing my next buzz. Between opposites and how to turn them into assets and not liabilities there are different approaches. Now, you open my mind to a fresh example. Leading from behind or from the front? We need a balance between them. This is why I am trying to answer in my next buzz. You also remind me of a post that I wrote few years ago on a platform that discontinued (docstoc). My post on creativity questioned the idea of thinking out of the box and if it is enough. I drew a conclusion in the post that it would be best to think on the edge of the box. Now, I may change the word box to fish tank and this becomes your example here. You do bring great points to the table my friend.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

You may be interested in reading the great buzz by Claire L Cardwell, which prompted me to publish this buzz. It is worthy your reading time. The link is: https://www.bebee.com/producer/@claire-cardwell/things-that-make-me-go-nuts

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

2 years ago #15

#13
You raise the very interesting priorities in engagement. The above or behind concept is where we mold our communication priorities. If we enter this metaphysical space with to much of the forward bias then we will see that which confirms the bias and communicate the bias. If we enter as objectively as we can, willing to accept whatever we find, then we can communicate weaknesses and strengths about the whole of what we find. What we see when we reverse or climb above the fish bowl will set the stage of communication priorities and delivery styles. Ultimately impacting the group we speak to. Great thoughts. Our view from the metaphysical perspectives seem to set the stage of engagement for the rest of the priorities.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#13
Thank you dear Claire L Cardwell for sharing this wonderful comment. I love to learn from nature and my buzzes focus mostly on this issue and its potentials. You remind me of negative pressure (I prefer now to call it reverse pressure) that allows trees to pump up water from underground to the top of high trees. Without this reversal act trees would die. You also remind me of another example from nature. This is aerial roots that grow downwards, exactly the reverse of what normal roots do. Your comment is brewing in my mind and shall do for a considerable time.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#12
Harvey Lloyd and your apt elaboration on it. What mesmerized me the most is your writing "Raise the Leaders head up just enough to see the effect of their causal solutions". You wonder why and I till you that I published this buzz before my planned next one. You shall see when I publish that your writing here is exactly what I plan to elaborate and explain why. Not only we allow leaders to observe and ponder better, but also this approach raises them to a higher level. I applaud you for writing this comment.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #12

Reverse leadership and good communication is key. Retaining your matriarchs and patriarchs - in an influential position right next to the leaders (mentors) and having your alpha females (the ones that are not currently pregnant or nursing puppies at the front (behind the young studs) to give balance and a dual perspective. The more I think of this wolf analogy I really hope it's true! I really love this business model - diversity is key to success - as a business and as a country. Diversity of culture, creed and orientation is also vitally important. I never realised that the alpha fish took in less oxygen - thus making himself vulnerable to attack - fascinating what we can learn from nature and the way that animals look out for each other - even different species - like the dolphin rescuing the dog - I know that the shots of the shark have been dubbed in... but this sort of thing does actually happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I4PZTvAY9U Dolphins also have been reported to rescue tired or injured tired humans (this happened to a friend of mine - honest).

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

2 years ago #11

I believe the concept could be framed as its difficult to see what is really going on if you are always out front. I would say that sometimes we need nievity to keep the drama from invading creativity. There is a balance for sure. As Debasish Majumder stated within the fish bowl we cant see anything but the actions of others. When we rise above the fish bowl we can now see purpose within the actions. I believe this is what β€œbehind” or Reverse leadership is attempting to do. Raise the Leaders head up just enough to see the effect of their causal solutions. Each of these concepts though are metaphysical. Meaning this engages all of who we are internally and externally. We have to be prepared for what we may find in the reverse leadership or above the fish bowl view. If we bring the forward/above expectations to the view then we will always be disappointed and seek change. The metaphysical journey of seeing from behind or above is to take real time analysis of facts and think about what we have seen and experienced......without the bias of forward/above. Difficult to do but is the only way the new view might shed new potential with in the fish bowl.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#10
In the image of the buzz I refer to reverse osmosis. It has been used to desalinate salty water dear Debasish Majumder. That some people use it creatively for ill-doings is a different story. I can smell from your comment the scent of a new poem. I am almost certain. Thank you for commenting, expanding the discussion and sharing the buzz.

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

2 years ago #9

in society, we observe how corruption whether in business or in any form, act like reverse osmosis and surprisingly it the leader who are largely benefited by using common people as bait and win election or even in business emerge as a leader by exploiting this reverse osmosis, i guess. it evident prevalent society we are living and the leaders too are inept yet enjoy huge fanfare! i exactly cannot understand how reverse osmosis in society benefit a leader? i wonder, whether it may really result any good to an available society which is largely driven by fanaticism and religious bigotry where only few can yield dividends? however, intriguing buzz indeed sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! enjoyed read and shared. thank you for the buzz sir.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#7
This is a great comment dear Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris. You highlight several great points. One point is the complexity of businesses today. The leader must allow for opportunities to emerge, for creative thinking to float and for realizing that the C+C (command and control) model is ineffective today. This leads to your second important point that leaders shouldn't do what others can do for them. Your historical analysis and examples are spot on. I salute you.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
Thank you dear Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I agree with you and your linked buzz is a gem. Yes, when birds fly in a V_shape the leading bird eventually moves to the back and another bird assumes the "front seat". I like what you said that for a leader to be a genuine one (s)he has to also be a follower. These two roles are inseparable.

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

That's a very intriguing idea which is also encountered in a more closely related entity, namely the honeybee. The queen bee leads the swarm from a place of safety since it is too important to be in the front lines where it can be killed by predators. Same goes with the king piece in chess. Also, in the Roman times, the general leading a military campaign would do so from the back, to ensure a better perspective and his surviving the battle so that he can offer his services in future campaigns. The idea of the leader being in the front lines, although stemming from a place of bravery, is suboptimal if not entirely ineffective in more complex scenarios. Perhaps in the times of ancient Greece it would make sense, but leaders like (who were basically demigods in the eyes of their people and their foes) are rarely found nowadays, while a position like this in a project wouldn't make much sense in a modern situation. For example, in a tech start-up you could perhaps have the CEO being in the front line along with the devs but would that really add value? Wouldn't this person be more effective talking to potential investors or clients, instead of doing something that other members of the company could do equally well? So, perhaps the idea of the leader being in the front lines, albeit it inspiring, is not the more practical way to allocate such a valuable resource.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
Thank you Claire L Cardwell and your comment counts heavily.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#2
Thank you Claire L Cardwell to your comment and I am sure Javier being a "reverse leader" shall attune to your complaint.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #3

Excellent article @Alianandi - nope tag still not working - Federico \ud83d\udc1d \u00c1lvarez San Mart\u00edn - also not getting my notifications on my posts, replies to comments I have made and notifications that certain people I am following whose posts I consider important to read - either on beBee or via email.

Claire L Cardwell

Claire L Cardwell

2 years ago #2

@AliAnani - I am one of your contacts on beBee - I knew I was and I have just subscribed to your blog and I still can't tag you - thanks for the tag - will have a read!

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Claire L Cardwell- you are mentioned in this buzz. Thank you for the inspiration

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