The Cynefin of Stupidity

The Cynefin of Stupidity

Stupidity is an interesting topic. People interact in our modern times more than ever before. One stupid act may result in great disruption because of the interconnectedness and the resulting feedback effect. Stupid beliefs that become dominant even if enough proofs disprove them. Just start a rumor on social media about the death of a celebrity and how quickly this rumor spreads like fire without probing the truth of the rumor before acting. I call this phenomenon β€œRainy Social Clouds” because the turbid clouds produce rain that is like a mirage. Mirages are in the clouds and not on the grounds only.

Carlo M. Cipolla developed the β€œFive Laws of Stupidity”. A later report claims that 80% of People are Stupid -- And Don't Even Know It. This reminds me of the Pareto Rule (80%-20%), which is a power law in that few stupid people may cause huge harm to societies and the world beyond our thinking. Being so, I may conclude that stupidity has its Cynefin Framework. There are obvious stupidity acts. There are also some complicated stupidity acts, whose cause and effect must be analyzed. There are also some complex stupidity acts resulting from too many people interacting about a stupid act that could lead to chaos. I suggest the Stupidity Cynefin Framework as is shown below.

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Like volcanos are, some few stupidity acts may cause the major harm to humanity. As much as these acts may seem trivial, they need probing, sensing and responding to them. When we do so, we are accused of stupidly focusing on trivial issues. What a paradox this is. The global pollution problem with its destructive effect serves as a good example. There are people who still deny it. For them, it is stupid to focus on a problem that isn’t.

Systems that are complex are prone to sudden eruptions if they reach their tipping point. Here lies the danger of complex stupidity for it may lead to disruptive chaos. I give one example of a brand of cigarettes that used to sell like freshly roasted coffee. Competitors spread the rumor that this brand of cigarettes that takes away men’s fertility. Soon, this brand disappeared from the markets. People interacted to warn smoking this brand of cigarettes and thus reinforced it. You can imagine the complexity of our world with a rumor able to disrupt huge businesses. Indeed, our world is developing more unpredictability because of the complexity risks.

Interactions among humans may lead to messy interdependencies. Stupid acts like false news, false beliefs, stupid assumptions and stupid thoughts may spread like fire in a dry wood. And we keep saying that these acts are too stupid to pay attention to them.


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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#100
Thank you Roberto De la Cruz Utria and I am moved by your good words. If your time would allow you I hope you would enjoy my buzz of today. You are a genuine star. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/the-toxic-beauty-of-rising-stars

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#98
I am impatient to read your buzz dear Fay Vietmeier. I am overwhelmed by your appreciation and the spiritual journey I feel when I exchange comments with you, Fay.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #87

@AliAnani Roberto De la Cruz Utria Ali~as you sited: β€œFive Laws of Stupidity”... that 80% of People are Stupid -- And Don't Even Know It." ... this is unconscious incompetence (the lowest level of consciousness) they don't even know ... that they don't even know "we are prone to follow the majority regardless of why, or without inquiring or meditating enough before following the pack" this reflects a lack of wisdom and a low level of self awareness ... a sheep mindset that will "go with the flow" ... not reasoning consequences or the path ahead ...I am working on the "Cynefin of Wisdom" and it will be dedicated to you Ali ;~) ... the "best of bees"

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#96
Thank you Roberto De la Cruz Utria and I am so glad to read a comment by you because your comments enrich my mind. You inspire me with a new thought. You wrote "we are prone to follow the majority regardless of why...". Is it that individuals in a group are well-connected to the extent the whole group suffers from the rigidity gap? Is this the cause of our loss of authenticity? It is great to be connected, but it fires back if we are overly-connected. I am still 'digesting" this thought.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#94
Fay- from "heart-to-heart" I say you are authentic

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #84

@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Ali~ Blessings back ;~) "Authentic" ... lines up with "heart-to-heart"

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#91
Thanks Fay and I shall respond to them today. I am giving lectures all week daily till 3 P.m. So, I shall respond as soon as I may. Thank you Fay for being such an authentic person.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #82

#90
Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Again, I am appreciative of your thoughtful comments (in this we are like-minded) I must say I think we are a minority ;~) I did read & respond (on the links) to the buzzes you shared below.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Fay Vietmeier #89 I know and I am just challenging your thoughts. One great way to generate great ideas is reverse thinking. I use this a lot. I wrote a presentation sometime ago titled "Reverse Businesses". https://www.slideshare.net/hudali15/reverse-businesses I wish your time would allow you to read it (exceeded 11 thousand views) One of my most read and commented buzzes is on Reverse Leadership https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/reverse-leadership Another buzz on reverse thinking that I wrote is Living upside down https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/the-symbiotic-relationship-between-opposites What I want to say is that I am finding you very creative and through my stupid suggestion you may generate creative ideas dear Fay.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #80

@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Ali~ To clarify... I said: "Wisdom is NOT stupid" NEVER ... even in paradox ... could stupidity be reasoned as wise ;~)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#87
Fay Vietmeier, Hi Fay, Please tag me when you post your buzz. I am sure it shall be cracking. You make me think of a paradox "wisdom is stupid". I am not negating you. I am just challenging your thoughts. Thank you for the way you classified stupidity and its levels. Quite interesting

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #78

@Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Ali~ The first thing that comes to my mind is that β€œstupidity” is not recognized … no one wants to be β€œstupid” … The lowest level of consciousness is unconsciousness incompetence: you don’t even know that you don’t even know … Unconsciousness incompetence lacks understanding & resides in darkness ... It is written in Scripture: β€œthat a man walking in the dark does not know where he is going” It is β€œstupid to focus on a problem that isn’t” Sadly people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. ~fem-v Wisdom seeks TRUTH Wisdom is required to: … Avoid β€œmessy inter-dependencies” … To recognize: β€œStupid acts like false news, false beliefs, stupid assumptions and stupid thoughts” β€œStupid is as stupid does” ~ Forest Gump By their fruits you will know them PS: You have inspired me to write: "Wisdom is not stupid" ... when I'm done I'll share it ;~)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#85
Exactly dear friend. This is what we mean by saying whatever we do to the environment it shall feedback in us.

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

1 year ago #76

#84
Absolutely my dear friend....Like it or not, we are all connected. Whatever harm we bring upon another we bring upon ourselves....It tears into the very fabric of our shared consciousness...Much like pouring venom into the veins of life itself...we all suffer the consequences...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#83
If we consider the ups and down of what we do then we may define the maximum stupidity by saying it is the one that gives you no advantage (o up) and all possible harms (100 down). The environmental issue is one example where harming the environment is only harming all parties (humans, animals, plants, resources) and yet there are people who still defend it!!! Thank you dear Cyndi wilkins for emphasizing this issue and for your sharing the buzz as well.

Cyndi wilkins

Cyndi wilkins

1 year ago #74

"The global pollution problem with its destructive effect serves as a good example. There are people who still deny it. For them, it is stupid to focus on a problem that isn’t." The denial of a problem such as global warming is just as destructive as the disruptive chaos of a rumor aimed at bringing down big business...Those in the C-suite begin to sweat as they are challenged to act...People are really beginning to 'turn up the heat' on this issue and our so-called leaders are really squirming with the concept of the inevitable changes that are sure to occur in the very near future..The stupidity of their ignorance has left us all at risk...Thank you for calling my attention to this buzz Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee...Certainly relevant to my interests at heart;-)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Thank you dear Clau Valerio for sharing the buzz. I hope you are doing great

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Cyndi wilkins- you wrote a comment on my choices post in which you stated that it was nice to post a new buzz after a while. Maybe this is because you didn't read this buzz, which I think is of direct relevance to your recent interests and publications.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#79
True, I may only add that when eventually they get found out, they may be blinded busy with their acting, that they have been found.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

LinkedIn has started a discussion on this buzz on the Social Capital Subgroup. http://bit.ly/2ZHShKK, The discussions so far are interesting and bring new perspectives. Thanks Jim Murray for your attention. I deleted the previous comment and I am grateful to you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#72
Jim, I just found that you need to click on this part of the URL and ignore the first part http://bit.ly/2ZHShKK,

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#72
Jim, I am not the one who shared it. She was Magdalena-Maria GROSU. So, the click takes you to the discussion and the page should carry the name of Magdalena, who briefed this post.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#72
Sometimes devices go stupid. I have just clicked the link and it works, Jim.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#71
Thank you Jim Murray. I still enjoy your company.

Jim Murray

Jim Murray

1 year ago #65

#70
Ali...you should repost this comment. The URL doesn't appear to work.

Jim Murray

Jim Murray

1 year ago #64

Short, sweet and to the point. My view of stupidity is much more primative and involves a lot of nouns and adjectives that are not normally used in polite company.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

LinkedIn has started a discussion on this buzz on the Social Capital Subgroup. http://bit.ly/1OkuC9U: http://bit.ly/2ZHShKK, The discussions so far are interesting and bring new perspectives.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#68
Rapid changes and free of publishing using fake names have resulted in people finding an easy way to breathe out their inner feelings without being caught. The spread of rumors, fake news and many other chaotic acts are the reflections of the sad reality reflected in your comment dear Proma \ud83d\udc1d Nautiyal. When people act on an increasing scale in such acts we know chaos is arriving fast.

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

1 year ago #61

There was a time when people would at least try to think of consequences of their words before they would speak out in front of a large crowd. That time is long gone ever since social media arrived. People are faceless (or photoshopped) names now, who couldn't care less about the implications of the words coming out of their minds and through their keyboards. Empathy is at an all time low and God knows the levels are going to dip even further. FOMO is like a fuel to this fire of ignorance and stupidity. I am glad you brought this up, sir.      

John Rylance

John Rylance

1 year ago #60

#66
Thanks Ali. 

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#65
Enjoy your trip to the Swiss Alps dear John Rylance as much as I enjoyed your quote and comment

John Rylance

John Rylance

1 year ago #58

Something to ponder on "Artifical Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" ANON I'm off to the Swiss Alps for a few days to consider this and other things while walking in the mountains. And so I go.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#62
Thank you for sharing the buzz Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#62
Great and very relevant quote dear Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador

β€œStupidity is the same as evil if you judge by the results.” ― Margaret Atwood, Surfacing

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#60
Well-said

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #53

#59
social media plus branding can equal good or bad. It is the intent that measures

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#58
Great points and the skills of tongues with their hidden toxicity even though they look beautiful and in fact a way to mislead people. Deception is their way in life.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #51

#57
I do agree in outside looking in. But make no mistake the people perpetrating the social fabric with their rhetoric are not stupid people. They are smart well beyond my capabilities. Information, skills and the tongue are all tools, just like a gun or a hammer. They can be used for great purposes and malevolent ones. I have seen the stupidest people in the world make social change well beyond their intellect. I have also witnessed the smartest people use their gifts to gain personal gratification without consequence to those who suffer through their thoughts. I believe that stupidity and intellect are mere conditions of status at any given moment that we use for good or evil.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
To this I agree "The narrative of both sides are power and financially driven". The issue compounds further when the power and financial strengths are in the hands of stupid people. There are people who got to power because of their financial strength and there are people who used power too secure financial strength. Their actions become focused on these strengths and become blind foolishly to other alternatives.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #49

#52
I believe that stupidity creates a narrative that never reaches the problem. In our country we have some deep seeded value issues that are not being created by stupid people. The narrative of both sides are power and financially driven. Each side develops their one hit fixes and brands them as the ultimate solution. We are currently dealing with many of these one hit solutions from the 30’s that were perfected in to a very high level of stupidity during the 60’s and 70’s. I believe if we consider what it takes to get the human mind to act in a malevolent way we can better understand that stupidity is not what we are witnessing. We are witnessing the erosion of a social order through power grabs by the aristocrats. Society is responding out of desperation to both sides.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#53
I read your sober comment again Gerald Hecht and I request you to expand it into a buzz. I truly hope you do.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#53
I must thank you twice dear Gerald Hecht: for your comment and for sharing this buzz in Science and Research Hive. It is very appropriate there. I liked your comment for you are the first one to highlight the mirage point, which I believe is a key point of the buzz. Not only highlighted it, but also added to it and you too enriched my thinking.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#51
Don't you consider malevolent evil as an extreme stupidity? I am just asking.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #45

#39
This is where i sense that opinion and the observer get entangled. I dont see recent events as stupid but see malevolent evil. This is quite different than stupidity. When we change the words the solutions require changing. If we look at previous attempts of government to manipulate social structure we see 100% failures over time. Malevolence is a beast that can not be tamed easily. Certainly it can not be tamed through limiting materialism. Illegal materialism will always have its underground markets. Our constitution here is addressing issues that it was never written for, it always assumed folks want to be citizens. What happens when the systems begin to generate malevolent/nihilistic people? I lack answers and fully understand that portions of our constitution will have to be changed to accommodate the lost rights of malevolent people. My fear is always who will make the decision of what is malevolent?

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#36
You are a "deep human" and thinker dear Oswaldo Enrique Diaz Delgado

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
Dear Oswals- a lot tp ponder on. "Existence (OUR) a so-called essence of life in "Faith and Hope". The critical point is manifested from the other side of the tunnel called β€œDuties of conscience”, some human beings enclose themselves without extending the essence of human value, a correlation that leads us towards the development of wanting and being able to β€œLearn, Teach, Understand, to let the steps of shared teachings flow ”

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#34
Dear Oswaldo Enrique Diaz Delgado for your very kind words. We appreciate them and many thanks to you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
Your comments and examples added great value to the buzz. No wonder I miss you and your comments dear Lisa.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

1 year ago #40

#45
Absolutely - great example! Ya know there was a student in 1980something (I've written about it before) that created the first 'mimic' for Parkinson's disease: MPTP. The designer was trying to make MPPP and gave himself a sort of 'super-Parkinson's'. But, this enabled scientists to be able to induce PD in testing....so it goes. Stupidity is both ally and foe, as you wisely stated.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#43
As I mentioned in an earlier comment dear Lisa Vanderburg stupidity has different levels. What tops the stupidity levels is acting such that one harms self and others. There is no winners and many losers. Innocent stupidity has allowed for great discoveries. I read once that somebody decided to put the two lenses of his eye glasses on top of each other instead of next to each other. The result of this stupidity led to the discovery of the microscope. There are malicious stupid examples such as selling fake diamond as real one. You know the difference in prices. But at least the seller is a winner and all buyers are losers. Mass killing for no good reason benefits no one and this is chaos advancing.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

1 year ago #38

Harvey Lloyd didn't highlight in my previous comment. Hi Harvey!!

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

1 year ago #37

#42
Thank you, dear friend! I have a doozy to send you too! 'The chaos is when rising stupidity is the malicious one.' I don't remember if I told you my (now old!) theory of adolescent America, but she has reached newly-found maturity of sorts; warts, mistakes, stupidity, desire...all with that relentless fervor of a 'new country'. Give her a few good years and she'll sort herself out. BUT, young'uns die easy. Americans must LISTEN to their instinct; their conscience. That doesn't lie in even a majority of white (or any) supremacist-value. America has to dig deeper than that. My concern [IMHO - NOT anyone here!] is that 'low-level' start and the culpability imagined -> guilt -> denial -> aquiescence -> altered belief. Back to your buzz: as @Harvey Lloyd said, stupidity has some value: 'Some times for good reason.' It is relevant, necessary & beneficial to reasoning and learning. It's also essential to further learning as Harvey examples. The 'obvious acts' of stupidity...those both can be used to swing on or off the rope. Great trying to think again - bit like a rowing boat along the QE3, but hey.....

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#41
As much as the news are saddening, at least a bright one is reading a comment by you again after a long time my dear Lisa Vanderburg. Innocent and malicious stupidity- I like your classification. The chaos is when rising stupidity is the malicious one. Such acts start on a low level, but then spread alarmingly. I shall be sending some photos for you by e-mail soon. I hope your husband condition is improving.

Lisa Vanderburg L

Lisa Vanderburg

1 year ago #35

Fascinating buzz & comments Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! As a person of fairly consistant stupidity, I agree with Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic comment of #39, but not the one about the penguins; they got picked up by Uber for the ark :) #40 The issue skirting 'round us all is that blasted POTUS & his 'stupidity'. Is it intentional, facile, malevolent? At the risk of going off-point, methinks of Volksgemeinschaft or "people's community" which meant to break down elitism & unify the [German] people and later, was used by the Nazis as a propoganda drive. The recent shootings in the US are greatly worrying as so very few seem to want to 'rile' Trump by taking him to task. Or worse, he is untouchable (even with a pic provided by one shooter with weapons spelling out his damn name). It is very reminiscent of the beginnings of Nazism. There is innocent stupidy, and then there's malicious stupidity.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#39
Just now and in less than 34 hours Chicago has witnessed a shooting event in a park. The total number of people killed or injured has exceeded in the shootings 35 victims and more than 40 people injured. Sad, horrible and coincides with your comment Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

1 year ago #33

#28
Harvey, I am not sure about the statement that stupidity is just an observed behaviour relative to the observer position. Stupidity is the underestimated power that, unfortunately, runs today's world, which is more than evident. For example, how we can call the persistent rejection of gun control despite so many mass shootings anything other than the most dangerous kind of stupidity? As I said in my previous comment, in each of us lurks stupidity. It varies in severity of the consequences of stupid actions.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#37
Great suggestion. My initial thoughts is that the blue shape in the image is called disorder. It is the place where other classifications don't fit in the four domains. Again, my initial thought is that your comment explains the function of this domain.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #31

#33
For your consideration i would posit that foolishness may deserve a spot in your diagram. Separating foolishness, knowing the right thing to do and having the skill to do it, but choose poorly anyway. From Stupidity where one is venturing into the unknown with courage and little knowledge/skill. Might make for some reasonable thought in how it would fit.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#32
Your comment and the previous one are a great way to understand self-awareness. I believe now that self-awareness has many levels or what we call fitness peaks. The more we "only extract wisdom from a spirit of teaching", the higher our fitness peak shall be.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #29

#31
I do lose my humility when engaged in my own stupidity. This is usually triggered by those who would wish to identify my stupidities without offering their own wisdom. Judgement. If i have established that i am willing to risk my embarrassment within stupidity then my only request is to accept my courage and guide my stupidity towards your wisdom. I am ready to hear. Unfortunately, in todays climate, i am finding that folks have more opinion than wisdom. They offer up false narratives to β€œcombat” my stupidity. I used to engage with this group. Today i merely walk away. One can not extract wisdom from an ideal. We can only extract wisdom from a spirit of teaching.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#29
This new comment reinforces your great thoughts on this topic. The ending line of your comment is simply a wisdom that we all need to adhere to.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#28
Harvey Lloyd- hats off to you for writing such a great comment. Sometimes, we miss a single fact that we are increasingly moving towards complexity. This trend makes us more like a child trying to walk. We are all"children" to new trends, new challenges, new experiences, new technologies and new emergence that show up unexpectedly. It is the foolish act that we tend to ignore this. With the advancement of new technologies and the myriad of societal, behavioral and other changes who is well-informed? What we know today might be invalid tomorrow. We are all learners by trail and error. Not only this, but also the way we learn is changing fast. This is an endless journey that requires humility on our part. It is forgetting this guiding principle that is among the most stupid acts we tend to do.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #26

In my youth i played at golf. At is the operative word. Never a game i mastered. Our group was leaving the clubhouse to enjoy the back nine holes. I teed up my ball and noticed two older gentlemen sitting on the bench next to the tee-box. One gentlemen stated, watch, he is going to slice the ball. Referring to me of course. Yes it was my nemesis in the game. I was stupid in how to correct this problem. Mad of course from the gentlemen’s comment, i not so humbly asked him of his knowledge of the game and would he be willing to share his wisdom. No that is not the way i stated it. Surprisingly he stood up walked over and said i would be glad to. I landed the ball 5 feet from the cup on a par three. A par three that i usually played my second shot from the trees. Stupidity is always looking for wisdom. Unfortunately pride and other ego level emotions keep us from asking/accepting.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #25

#25
#26 Stupidity is an observed behavior and is relative to the observers position. If i were to stand inside a meeting with NASA engineers they would observe stupidities. If NASA engineers would stand with me in building a home i would observe the same effect. When we observe an infant attempting to walk we do not observe stupidities but recognize the challenges of learning something for the first time. The complexities of the task. For some reason we lose the ability observe this same phenomena in adults. Some times for good reason. Arrogance and lack of humility when attempting a new task establishes an observer to see attempts as stupid. The complexities of task is there just like the infant learning to walk. But what is lacking in the adult is the reflection of humility. In leadership, difficult as it is, we must look past this lack of humility and recognize, not stupidity, but rather the complexity of task. We also should see the courage the individual is displaying in even attempting something new. Failure in the first trials is immanent. I would rather appear stupid in task while i learn than become the fool that does not risk failure. When i am called stupid i realize i am in the right place.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

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Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#25
Dear Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic named named the exploration and it involves probing, sensing and then responding. We become stupid when we try to outsmart complexity and trying to find cause and effect relationship that doesn't exist. So, I may so stupidity is an emerging property. You really grasped the essence of the buzz.

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

1 year ago #22

Stupidity is, indeed, an interesting subject. You pointed out one issue that I found important not only related to the topic but in general. In dealing with complex issues, no matter how trivial seeming probing is mandatory. We often learn more from failure than success and even from making the same mistakes because complex systems have no repeating relationship between cause and effect. About stupidity, I often ask myself why smart people make stupid things or believe in things John Rylance mentioned in his comment. The answer is that all of us fall into both 80/20 categories. Noah's Ark is an excellent example.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#22
I bit you are an excellent presenter John Rylance. You are a great teller of funny stories that keep the listener and reader interested.

John Rylance

John Rylance

1 year ago #20

 If you are ever feel stupid, just remember there are people who believe two penguins walked all the way from Antarctica to the Middle East to get on an Ark.  ANON.  As was said each week at the end of a regular sketch on the Rowan and Martin Laugh In "Interesting but STUPID"

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#20
Great feedback and quote Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris. Maybe the most intelligent are the stupid people who know they are!!!

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

According to a famous scientist who was somewhat less stupid than most of us, there are 2 things that are infinite in the universe: space and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the former... Yes, the scientist was Albert Einstein and I may be savaging this quote of his but the message is intact.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Cyndi wilkins- i have reasons to think this buzz interests you

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
You are right dear Jerry Fletcher in your analysis. If complexity follows a power law, as justified in the buzz, its effect may become very complex because of the feedback effect. Power Law follows a long-tail distribution and not a normal curve distribution. This means that rare events (noisy effects) could channel their effect back to the peak of the distribution and complexity reaches its tipping point. This leads to disruption. This is in conformity with what you wrote they are so sensitive to initial conditions and the butterfly effect. You are very right.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#15
CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit- thank you for your comprehensive comment and for the link. My humble value-added addition to the stupidity is linking the dynamics of stupidity with the cynefin framework. This visualization makes it easier to understand such dynamics. I read the your linked article and I found that I could summarize it on a cynefin framework. This is pleasing for me. That we may apply the Pareto Rule to stupidity shows it follows a power law and hence is extensible to this framework. The movement within the framework from one domain to another such as from the obvious domain to the chaotic domain is indeed possible and your contribution here is valuable. I wrote a presentation on Stupidity Spawns Creativity https://www.slideshare.net/hudali15/stupidity-spawns-creativity In this presentation I gave example of creative products that became marketable and were developed from what seemed initially a stupid idea. Yes, as you mentioned, stupidity has an economic value.

Jerry Fletcher

Jerry Fletcher

1 year ago #14

Dr. Ali, I must admit I had no idea what the word Cynefin meant. It is interesting to me that the root of the word is Welsh. That in and of itself suggests the layered complexity of the concept. I have not had time to study I it in depth but I recognize the descriptors for each of the four conditions and the relevant steps required to handle them from first hand experience. If I understand what you are getting at, stupidity is the same response by the observer regardless of what condition presents itself. In my view, it is the singular ingredient (the butterfly) in Catastrophe theory that drives the unexpected shift to the next condition moving a situation from simple to chaotic or Complex or, Lord help us, Disorder. If the originators of this way to classify and cope with problems were correct, It seems to me that inappropriate reactions (stupidity) would move us clockwise around the circle, even if we had to extract ourselves from disorder. Will the stupid recover from their actions? No. Can we convince them to take different actions? Probably not. We should do what my Grandad used to say, "Get 'er done and leave the fools behind!" And so it goes.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

1 year ago #13

I like Mark Pagel's view that stupidity is to culture what mutation is to biology. His piece about "Infinite Stupidity" in Edge is very interesting https://www.edge.org/conversation/infinite-stupidity-edge-conversation-with-mark-pagel Without stupidity we don't make markets. If we were rational about our consumption choices we would quickly see that there is no logical reason to buy the kind of things we buy that help to make markets. Then there is the whole world of economists with their belief in rational behaviour. Any economics that does not study the role of stupidity in making markets is an economic theory that is complex stupidity. Look at how we treat the value of women as economic analysis and we know those economists who trust in a rational universe espouse really stupid theories. The Invisible Hand is an idea perpetuated by Adam Smith. Maybe the genius in the idea is us accepting his premise and not having a population out there who can refute this theory for the simple reason the invisible hand may actually be stupidity itself :-) https://newrepublic.com/article/133904/moms-invisible-hand That stupidity has an economic benefit is easier to prove than proving that Adam Smith was right about the "Invisible Hand".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#13
I am deeply grateful to you Joel Anderson.

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

1 year ago #11

#12
I am just glad I had a break in the action and truly enjoyed your post and insights herein.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#11
Thank you Joel Anderson and I am glad that the post triggered such a good action from you.

Joel Anderson

Joel Anderson

1 year ago #9

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee You piqued my interest and since I had a few minutes in-between the disorder I went and listened to the introduction to the Cynefin Frameork: http://cognitive-edge.com/videos/cynefin-framework-introduction/ Interesting indeed.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#5
Dear Oswaldo- yes, as you highlighted, Stupidity can be reflected in the face of those who without verifying the truth spread a message, a fact that is far from logic

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#7
There is difference between knowledge and info for the latter maybe based on false assumptions. David Snowden in the cyenfin framework elaborated how to deal with each domain whether simple all the way to chaos. Thank you dear Debasish Majumder for your unstoppable support.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
I hope you have both Lyon Brave. Smart you are, and I hope richness shall be your partner.

Debasish Majumder

Debasish Majumder

1 year ago #5

empirical knowledge sometimes lead to peril. logic may occasionally take backseat nowadays, resulting to chaos in the available society. lovely insight sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! enjoyed read and shared. thank you for the buzz sir.

Lyon Brave L

Lyon Brave

1 year ago #4

Nothing worse than being broke and stupid because you only have hope if you are rich or smart. -LAB

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
Amigo Oswaldo Enrique Diaz Delgado- this is my wish in publishing this buzz. "Lucky and different to feel life with other lives. In your own positive nature the best gift to connect and find a different sense to live fully".

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
from a dummy bee:))) Pascal- I thank you for sharing the buzz

Pascal Derrien

Pascal Derrien

1 year ago #1

that's a smart one …

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