The Triads of Complexity

The Triads of Complexity

My last buzz on "We Plan and Destiny Laughs" drew lots of comments. One comment from the brilliant Milos Djukic drew my attention in which he wrote "Fear of chaos. It is our fear of uncertainty of each new day. The eternal struggle with transience of human life and permanent striving toward eternity. It is also, confirmation of our limitations, fear of disorder and reconciliation with the awareness of ignorance. It is also very important to design additional self-similar details (fractal patterns), through fruitful communication with like-minded people. In this way, we reshape the infinity of ignorance. This activity brings immense joy to every participant". Milos using of the word fear reminded me of the stock market and investors' behaviors. It is the triad fear, greed and the mindset of investors that create the repeating fractal patterns of the stock market. But again, Milos in his pioneering post on "The Secret Human Qualities That Truly Matter" that he mentioned another triad of curiosity, imagination and mindset that make the difference. Is it the lack of curiosity, imagination and the mindset of investors that lead to the complexity of the stock market? Fear shrinks curiosity and greed stifles imagination and it seems Milos provides an alternative explanation to the complexity of financial markets.

The fear of the unknown dries up the curiosity of what we can do can have. Curiosity combined with imagination allows creativity to grow as Benny Goodman said. Curiosity feedback to itself. We ask questions to fulfill our curiosity and as we ask them our curiosity goes up. Curiosity feeds imagination and their combination may offer creative solutions to people with the right mindset.

As much as curiosity is a crucial ingredient in the triad; still it offers other challenges. As we gather information to answer questions to satisfy our curiosity we enter into a non-linear, hump-backed curve of relationship. We might end up in decreasing curiosity rather than increasing it.

The Triads of Complexity

ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  Relationship between complexity of information and human curiosity- Ipsen (2002)

What we draw as a triangular triad is in fact more complex than we think. The hurricane of information that we are exposed to make it very difficult on where our position on the curiosity-information curve we are. This acts as a chaotic pendulum, which in turn affects our curiosity and imagination and would affect our mindsets. In the financial market we see people doing analysis on the movements of the stock markets only to abandon them and follow the crowds in buying or selling a stock. It is mindsets that say one thing and act in its opposite.

The Triads of Complexity

Just by rotating the spiral figure above we end up with its wavy pattern.

The Triads of Complexity

Are we responsible for turning our wavy patterns into hurricanes and find ourselves immersed in situations that we created for ourselves/ Will such phenomena increase because of the rapidity of the flow of information? In times of hurricanes logic mostly disappears.


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Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#35
Thank you so much dear CityVP Manjit. This comment of yours in its clarity serves as a great model of writing with "deep simplicity". I enjoyed this comment because it is eloquent; clear and yet provides incredible info such as the link you provide (which surely I am going to visit). I thank you for your kind words. I shall be honest to add that I wrote to few bees in private and showed them by example where I had difficulty in understanding them. I even did some editing. I am glad that I don't have to write any more to them because they improved a lot. In commenting, we should be honest and I only commented on those posts after editing and re-publishing. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain more my previous comment as well.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #23

#34
Dear Ali Anani absolutely ! I am 100% with you on this, which is why the assumption of understanding is such a phenomenal challenge. The process of packing complex ideas into simpler forms can be done but it is extremely challenging. The idea of a complex thinker going back to basics is expressed well in "sharpening the saw" which Steven Covey talked about, but to convey complex ideas to get the attention of a lay audience is a mighty challenge for science communicators. If anything in your buzzes you take complex ideas and bring them home to people. You are being unduly modest about your own gifts in taking complex ideas and presenting them to a larger audience. I can give you a great example of someone who has taken very complex thinking and packed them densely and this woman deals in triads, her name is Gillian http://bioss.com/gillian-stamp/the-tripod-of-work/ She has got her thinking honed to this degree with years of iterations and a depth of reading which I would say is simply phenomenal. Her brilliance will be immediate to you.

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
"...complex ideas and make them simple enough for the lay-person to understand". I have a problem with this. On some scientific fields I feel I know and on many others I feel I barely know anything. With the advancement of science- even my own field requires continuous monitoring. We need to simplify while keeping the integrity of the subject matter. I am sure with your depth many readers feel like laypersons even with their high qualifications. I am not ashamed to admit I am one.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #21

#31
That is the problem science communication is confronting now - how does one take high level abstractive reasoning or complex ideas and make them simple enough for the lay-person to understand. Even if a lay-person can understand that reasoning, the way we individually mentally process information is different from the most simplest form of understanding to people who can handle more. The mind here is the same as muscle some people can lift 50lb while others can lift 300lb, but putting 300lb understanding on a 50lb mind is cruel. Giving a 50lbs to a guy that wants to lift 300lbs, that guy isn't going to become your best friend anytime soon. That is why I like Mihaly's simple flow diagram - it expresses things in a way most people will understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjyzMh7DBKg

David Navarro Lรณpez

David Navarro Lรณpez

4 years ago #20

#30
I don't know if here the internet manners are the same than in other places, but writing all the time in capitals use to be synonymous to SHOUT. AND SHOUTING IS FAR AWAY FROM GOOD MANNERS. Only for your info.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #19

#21
Dear Debasish you have actually stumbled upon a very important point between complexity and faculty, but not as deletion - because surmising why I might decide to delete this particular comment is akin to trying to read someone's mind. What we don't however do is connect complexity with faculty. Where we see people who do not applying this alignment, there can be contempt shown at everyday people and there can even be scorn at people whose faculty is at a higher level of complexity than them. Conversely, looking at what we are doing to people rather than how we are reacting. To project greater complexity than an individuals faculty is to create anxiety in them. To project lesser complexity than an individuals faculty is to create boredom in them. This means as we look at people and as people look at us we create these imbalances by ignoring this relationship. This is central to the flow theory that Mihaly Cziksentimalyi researched https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Boredom-Anxiety-Experiencing-Flow/dp/0787951404

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#26
Peter van Doorn- this is what I see Peter van Doorn 1 h ago ยท #19 This comment has been deleted I mentioned the issue to the attention of Javier beBee

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#24
Noo- I understand your concern and I appreciate greatly your telling me about the deletion dear debasish majumder

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

I noticed now that your comment No. 16 isn't deleted debasish majumder is. Dear brother- you know I don't dare to delete a comment of yours or any one.

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
Dear debasish majumder

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#19
Peter Peter van Doorn- you asked "I agree, gaining knowledge is quite useless as a goal. As a tool, it is only useful when you use it for the sake of others. That is hard to do, isn't it"? I love this question. When I think how our bodies have functional systems and how these systems talk to each other by sharing info I wonder why we don't realize that functionality and sharing make what we are. The mentality of silos is causing knowledge to be very precious and forget it can be more precious if shared. I have one choice- to agree with you

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
debasish majumder- I invite commenters to comment on you view that ""Fear", an abstract quality is nothing but a quality of a matter i guess". This is a daring view

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#14
When one makes the mistake of using the curiosity as an end instead of a tool, then frustration is going to appear, because it is impossible to anyone to learn everything. a mastermind you are David David Navarro L\u00f3pez. Yes, when we have collective intelligence we shall acquire knowledge faster. You reminded me of a quote that curiosity sparks knowledge and knowledge sparks creativity. Surely with imagination this is fostered. I think the way you describe beBee shall appeal to beBee Team

David Navarro Lรณpez

David Navarro Lรณpez

4 years ago #11

It is refreshing to read your lines, dear Ali Anani , for independently of our different cultures, we make ourselves the same primary questions. And this is the beauty of humanity. When the walls of prejudices, fears, and negativity fall apart, automatically arises that we are not so different, and we can talk about it freely, learning and confirming our own thoughts reciprocally. Curiosity is, for the good of the humankind, an inherent quality, which, without it, no progress or improvement could be achieved. When one makes the mistake of using the curiosity as an end instead of a tool, then frustration is going to appear, because it is impossible to anyone to learn everything. Knowledge can be used to expand our mind, but the limits of knowledge are bigger than the ones our own mind, because knowledge is the fruit of many humans altogether, and not vice-versa. We can for sure contribute to the enhancement of knowledge as individuals. The day humans will learn that common thinking like ants does, (or bees), is where the real power of knowledge/curiosity is, this day we will make a significant step on humankind progress. The media we have today is a wonderful tool for it. Let us see if we are going to take advantage of it in this sense. With all, I believe that emerging initiatives, like this one of beBee, gives us a hint on what could it be.

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Dear brother Anees Zaidi spotted one by writing earlier "Sounds like a fractal process to me @Anees Zaidi". Being fractal carries so many beautiful meanings to be mined.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #9

#7
Never ceases to amaze me Ali Anani! I must be doing something right.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #8

#6
Beautifully written Anees Zaidi.

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
Dear Anees Zaidi- you wrote Whatever I leave behind is self-similar of me. This comment is soo deep and your few words leave me bewildered with amazement. I shall explain later why.

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
Dear Milos Djukic. This comment shall resonate with Milos for long times and I dare say it.

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

SO, you answered me before I even finished my question dear Sara Sara Jacobovici. I am amazed about this synchronicity

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#3
I really would love to read Sara Jacobovici. It is flowing with passion, curiosity and I feel the urge o read Sara's comment on this segment of your comment "I would say first we form meanings as a result of our experiences, then based on those meanings we convert our lives into 'hurricanes' (good or bad) and out of enthusiasm / frustration we again start finding new meanings to our lives. And the story of life keeps moving". I am thinking in particular of your use enthusiasm/frustration swing. There is a strong reason for you saying this dear brother.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #3

#3
"... first we form meanings as a result of our experiences, then based on those meanings we convert our lives into 'hurricanes' (good or bad) and out of enthusiasm / frustration we again start finding new meanings to our lives. And the story of life keeps moving." Sounds like a fractal process to me Anees Zaidi.

Ali ๐Ÿ Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
There are few minds that when I see them commenting, sharing or contributing a buzz I get curious to find out more about their contributions. Dear Sara Jacobovici you stand out as one of those people. If this buzz generates one comment of this high level of yours then I shall be satisfied. Now, you fuel my curiosity with your writing "we form meaning as a result of our experiences, yet we are always in search of meaning". I am sure soon you shall satisfy my curiosity with a buzz. Great thinker you are.

Sara Jacobovici

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #1

Dear Ali Anani and a wonderful quote by Benny Goodman. It is this kind of range of inclusion and incorporation of diverse sources into your theoretical frameworks that contribute greatly to the quality of your work. My simple response to your Buzz, at this time, is to say that, from my perspective, meaning shapes and forms the triads and the fractals' patterns and designs. It's not just curiosity, it's what you are curious about. It's not just imagination, it is what you imagine. There is meaning to everything that surrounds us; meaning in everything that is created. Here's a new paradox (freshly inspired); we form meaning as a result of our experiences, yet we are always in search of meaning.

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