Ali Anani

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Where Is the Pearl?

Where Is the Pearl?

Where Is the Pearl

Ali Anani, PhO

I tested the waters of this post by writing a comment addressed to the spiritual power of @Fay Vietmeier. I knew in advance that Fay will be shocked by the comment because it negates her spiritual beliefs. I include parts of my comment to Fay.

Of particular interest to you is the reference I am going to make to “the backwards law”—it is the more somebody pursues a feeling such as anger, the angrier she/he becomes and the less satisfied she/he shall be all the time. The more a lady focuses on being spiritual, the less spiritual she becomes because what in essence she does is that she admits not having the spiritual power. The feeling of deprivation of this power inflames the drawback effect. This is a huge paradox- the more of something good we want, the less we have it.

My search later led me to a challenging reference in which the author wroteThe more you want to be spiritually enlightened the more self-centered and shallow you become in trying to get there”.

As expected, Fay responded “You may have ruffled my bee-wings a bit ... not used to that from you ;~) for I'm a most sensitive bee ;~)
Banter is what I enjoy ... "opening the oyster of conversation" ... hoping to find a "pearl". Later Fay wrote “... I won't swallow any "laws" that are not Truth or "rightly ordered ;~) putting "laws" or words on paper does not mean they are truth ;~)

I didn’t stir the waters; I created turbulence. This made me ponder deeper on the law. I remembered what I wrote on my profile “I am a man who knows the more I know, the lesser I know for I discover how much more I need to know”.

My daughter, Sara, told mean one day “dad, because I love you so much I stopped loving you”. This is in accordance with the drawbacks law. My daughter explained that loving me too much worried her because I travelled extensively those days and she wasn’t sure how well I was doing during those travels. A daughter who gets too close to her father ends up in losing her love for him.

Is this law always true and if not why? My immediate thoughts reminded me of our observation that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. How come that the rich is their search for wealth becomes wealthier? This is contradicting with the drawbacks law.

The desire for more positive 2
experience is itself a negative
experience; and, paradoxically,
the acceptance of one's
negative experience is itself a
positive experience.

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I say to me “spontaneous reactions are like spontaneous chemical reactions”. Spontaneous reactions happen when we increase the disorder of a reaction and reinforce it by releasing off energy “exothermic”. When we increase the heat of the reaction entropy shoots up and disorder happens on a wider scale. It is easy to break an orderly crystal into pieces, but it is hard to reassemble the crystal. This is life. Our spontaneous reactions are most likely to be disordered and we need to pause and think. We may need to use The Magnification Law by sitting in the rear to have a better and magnified picture of the situation. This is analogous to putting a lens in the back in a camera to have a non-blurred magnified photo.

The trouble with the laws sometimes is their spontaneity. They take the immediate effects and extend them to the future. For the short time span they may be correct; not for the long time spans. For example, if the rich get richer the poor get poorer then we create big and small voids in the concrete of the society. These inequalities of voids weaken the social structure. The poor will revolt at a certain tipping point and shake up the whole social web. The Arab Spring is just one example of what I mean. Another example is a heavy smoker enjoying the immediate joy of smoking, but forgetting the abrupt deterioration of his health in the future.

The lesson here is that spontaneity towards more greed by the rich resulted in the short run of the rich being richer. But this ends up in the long run making them poorer. By few having the majority increase the disorder of the society. The rich has to stop this spontaneity by caring for the poor. They have to do work to reverse the chaos. They have to put energy in the chaos (money) and donate; else the chaos of their greed will make them greedier. This calls for more chaos in the society and accelerates its disruptive power to become self-destroying. Greed calls for more greed.

How many people made fortune on the stock markets in the short run, but went bankrupt in the long run is amazing. These investors allowed greed with its chaos to control their lives. More greed invites for easy wins, but hard falls afterwards. This is a spontaneous reaction that is accompanied by increase in the social disorder. To reverse it the rich have to do work to restore order.

The richer we become using illegal practices, the poorer we get because we increase our entropy that devastates us and makes us poorer.
We need to be searching for the truth. The biggest truth in life is a spiritual one. I say this because of my own experiences.
When I know more to find out that I know less is a chaotic state. I need to do efforts to find the needle of truth in the increasing pile of the unknown and unknowable haystack.

Getting lost is easy; finding my way requires work on my part. The more I know and I learn the more I need to do more work to find the truth.

When you find it you find the truth isn’t the truth. It is different from what you found. The water isn’t water; it is a mirage.

Not finding the pearl of truth in the chaotic spread of the oysters is what keeps us learning. We keep pursuing a noble goal that eludes us.

The pearl isn’t the material pearl we find in the oyster. It is the pearls that we collect during the learning journey. It is the pearl of being modest of what we know and not bragging about it. It is the realization that no matter what we know there is something greater that we don’t know.
Ali Anani

The more we know, the less we know. Dropping efforts to continue the search for reality is spontaneous because it is chaos in operation.  It is the spiritual power with a higher and the one fact that above every scientist there is a supreme power that knows the truth. It is the power that helps us chooses to work harder and try harder without stopping.


To continue ;earning is to make even more efforts to know with the realization that we shall not know.
Ali Anani
We need to put the lens of pride and brag in the rear to magnify our weaknesses and to realize that no matter how stronger we become; the weaker we become.
Ali Anani
It is the only unchangeable and lasting fact. God who created the universe threw the challenge on us to realize our need for his constant support. This is the anchor against our weaknesses.
Ali Anani

The only stable, invariant, supreme and lasting anchor is the spiritual anchor. All other anchors are good for short times, but then become inconstant, variant, unstable and weak.

String countries aren’t different. In trying to become stronger to dominate other nations a country becomes weaker, chaotic, and disorderly with natural spontaneity to more chaos. It shall degrade and vanish if not reinforced by the spiritual force to keep the pearl; else it shall disintegrate and vanish.

The only force that increases our strength and makes us stronger is the spiritual force. This is the force that overrides the drawbacks law.

The only real love that gets more the more we have it is the love of God. This is the lasting pearl in the oyster.
Ali Anani

Our weaknesses are revealed by the corona viruses. The virus is introducing chaos in our lives. It is amid this chaos that we should realize that in a universe where entropy directs the day, the presence of life with such organization and stability is amazing. It reveals to us our need to wake up for the realization of the power of spirituality so that we come out stronger than before; else we end up in more chaos and decay. If you be thankful I will give you more. This is God’s promise to us in these testing times.

I dedicate this post to @Fay Vietmeier for being my spiritual mentor, to CityVP Manjit for introducing me to the Law of Magnification and for Harvey Lloyd for being present whenever I needed him.


التعليقات

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #80

#86
Thank you, Lada.

Lada 🏡 Prkic

منذ 3 سنوات #79

#85
Ali, the "song" we talk about wouldn't even exist without "singers." This comment thread could continue endlessly, but I would like to end the discussion. My final comment is - to each their own. :-)

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #78

Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic True, but again is it the song or the singer? Yes, I shall not be commanded by others and if some people are bad singers I just walk away. People do this when they fail to persuade others and communicate, hopefully, what they know. In many cases they don't know or their faith is fractured inside and so they lean to the use of high voices. Terrible examples they are of asking others to believe in what they have a vague or questioned beliefs.

Lada 🏡 Prkic

منذ 3 سنوات #77

#77
We see many examples of proselytising in trying to convince others to join the Cristian faith on beBee. It's okay with me although I find it annoying. "Convincing" has been understood differently throughout the whole history, as seen many times (the inquisition, the crusades, not to mention further).

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #76

#82
Dear the spiritual well-spring Fay Vietmeier My comment on your post says a lot of why I find your post a great read. Again, I invite readers of this post to read yours . The link can be found in my comment #79

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #75

#79
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Thanks you my dear Professor for ascribing value to my words ... the outcome is a reaping of prayerful thought I so appreciate your bringing here to the attention of these wonderful contributing bees ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #74

#80
No question and I fully accept your comment dear Fay Vietmeier. Yes, God isn't a dictator. People van be.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #73

#77
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee My dear Professor you rightly say; "faith comes through convincing and not through forcing" Who wants to have “faith” in a divine dictator ... more importantly who wants to love anyone ... let alone a God who “forces” Himself on you ... that would be a PRISON Which is why the gift of free will is so vital ... even sacred to humanity ... Grace from a gracious God, who in Love sent his only begotten Son to save mankind Christ willingly came to “lay down his life” ... no one took it from Him I think that is vital to know ... for it was a willing sacrifice: “One for all” Sharing what is written in the Holy Scriptures: “Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God” 2 Corinthians 5

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #72

#78
I believe the quote here and the full explanations are discussed in what I believe is a MUST-Read post by you dear Fay Vietmeier I genuinely invite all readers to read the most recent post by Fay before even considering comments on this post. Are you suffering from "full-cup syndrome?" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/are-you-suffering-from-full-cup-syndrome

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #71

#76
Preston \ud83d\udc1d Vander Ven We are like-minded Preston ... I mentioned this earlier in response to one of his comments Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee “I need to do efforts to find the needle of truth in the increasing pile of the unknown and unknowable haystack” ~Ali … a SMILE from this former farm-girl who is reminded of a great treasure in a field … and a “pearl-seeker” “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.” The Parable of the Pearl of Great Price “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls, who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it.”

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #70

#75
#76 The Holy Book of Muslims, Quran, states firmly "there is no compulsion in religion". Faith comes through convincing and not through forcing

Lada 🏡 Prkic

منذ 3 سنوات #69

#71
It applies to those who choose to believe in the myth of physical resurrection. :)

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #68

#73
Bravo Fay Vietmeier Few words full of pearls of wisdom "at times even a lack of desire to understand ...". Closed minds cease to understand that it is a journey of search and only those with genuine desire to understand will continue the journey. You remind me of the product of desirability X ability gives performance level.If any of these two factors is zero the product is zero. You are spot on

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #67

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Not sure you saw this response: #54 I want to clarify this comment my dear Professor: in NO way is this meant to "capitalize fear" "scientists who revolutionized science, but were mocked" made me think how very often that people are ahead of their time ... even so FAR ahead that human thinking can't stretch to where they are." I meant to convey that there is a flawed human tendency to "mock" what they can't understand ... as in your example of the scientist who "revolutionized science" and my example of those who "mocked" Christ ... who spoke in a revolutionary way The issue is an inability ... at times even a lack of desire to understand ... to try to see something in a new light ... in a deeper way

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #66

#70
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee "God-please bless me with the faith of children." ~fem-v Child-like innocence is not jaded ... tainted with the life experience of an "old" person ( there are sweet, wise "old" people ... and hard, foolish "old" people) Some "old" people ...who by their life journey have regained a child-like quality that is beautiful ... able to believe ... able to receive ... this is called "wisdom" Perhaps that is why Jesus said you have to be like a "child"... At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18 & Mark 10 “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what is not true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” ~Soren Kierkegaard

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #65

#64
Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic I appreciate your words of insight here Lada ... Profoundly quotable ;~) "I am aware that for many people, even scientists, science is not their only means for accessing truth. When an event such as resurrection cannot be proved and explained by science’s methods, the only explanation left is a miracle as a demonstration of God’s power. And science cannot beat miracles.:)

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #64

#69
Fay Vietmeier You remind me of what one Khalifa (governor) quote "God- please bless me with faith of old people". What he meant is that old people believe without questioning and their minds aren't clouded with search for the truth. The faith of fact-searching people is clouded with doubts and their skies aren't as clear as those of older people. Sometimes,I deeply wish I have never studied science. To reach your stage of faith (and that of my father) means having peace in the mind and heart.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #63

#57
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I'm sure to be judged for saying this ... but I believe that "all Scripture is God-breathed" Words inspired by the Holy Spirit of God ... written through selected human vessels ... over time translated into all languages ... over time carried to all tribes & nations ... Divinely protected & preserved unto this day ... for our benefit Truth is Truth (not mine ... not any individuals human-thinking) Truth resonates Truth sets captives free The Source & Standard of Truth is Almighty God

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #62

Fay Vietmeier I expected this comment. This is the reason I tagged you. Awaiting your further thoughts.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #61

#56
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I did read "the pearl" ... like you I'm pondering ... this is not a necklace to wear ;~) my first response is that it distorts the meaning of what a pearl is ...

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #60

#64
Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic I am too glad I asked you the question that resulted in a great response from you. I take your point ". Blind and excessive faith is one of such things. I'm talking about religious faith based on a misguided understanding that may lead to extremism in destructive ways". You reminded me of my post in which warned against overflows of anything and including love. Excessive love leads to either trying to control the beloved one or becoming extra jealous. Either of them poisons the love. So, I 'm against excessive love no matter what for fear it has awful side effects. Ia m not defending and only stating a fact. No religion calls for the killing of children, of women or even bringing down a tree. The question here is who to blame- the paint or painter? It is unfortunate that the blind excessive love makes people justify acts that aren't acceptable and even abhorred. The blind love is conforming with what you stated in your second paragraph "To blindly believe in every word of the Bible, although it was written and re-written decades and centuries after Jesus lived is just unacceptable to me" Blind belief or blind love are both blind and make us blind to what we do what we should refrain from. You ended your comment by "I continue my discovery journey like you, but I am still in the search for that "pearl." :). We are on the same both for one good reason- we both don't know the truth with any certainty.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #59

#54
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I want to clarify this comment my dear Professor: in NO way is this meant to "capitalize fear" "scientists who revolutionized science, but were mocked" made me think how very often that people are ahead of their time ... even so FAR ahead that human thinking can't stretch to where they are." I meant to convey that there is a flawed human tendency to "mock" what they can't understand ... as in your example of the scientist who "revolutionized science" and my example of those who "mocked" Christ ... who spoke in a revolutionary way The issue is an inability ... at times even a lack of desire to understand ... to try to see something in a new light ... in a deeper way

Lada 🏡 Prkic

منذ 3 سنوات #58

#24
#25 First, I'm glad that my comment resulted in such an eloquent and thought-provoking response. Ali, we all are spiritual beings, and we all ask questions to which there's no answer - at least for now. :) In searching for the answers, many go to extremes. Too much of anything isn't good for both your body and mind. Blind and excessive faith is one of such things. I'm talking about religious faith based on a misguided understanding that may lead to extremism in destructive ways. The best example is the jihadi belief of ascending to heaven and enjoying the company of 72 virgins if they die as a martyr in a battle or suicide bombing. To blindly believe in every word of the Bible, although it was written and re-written decades and centuries after Jesus lived is just unacceptable to me. Not because I don't want to believe in a higher power but because the explanation of that power through religious texts contradicts my logic. Many questions (some of them you asked in your comment) are beyond explanations; beginning, expanding and the possible end of the universe, what happened after death. Human knowledge increases at an exponential rate. We know immeasurably much more than we did 2,000 years ago, but people still believe in dubious claims in holy texts. I am aware that for many people, even scientists, science is not their only means for accessing truth. When an event such as resurrection cannot be proved and explained by science’s methods, the only explanation left is a miracle as a demonstration of God’s power. And science cannot beat miracles. :) You said: "The more I know and I learn the more I need to do more work to find the truth. When you find it you find the truth isn’t the truth. Not finding the pearl of truth in the chaotic spread of the oysters is what keeps us learning." So, Ali, how you know that the Truth you believe in is the right truth. I continue my discovery journey like you, but I am still in the search for that "pearl." :)

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #57

Please tag me to your meal

David Navarro López

منذ 3 سنوات #56

#61
You are right. I have something "cooking in the kitchen" Hope I will finish it soon.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #55

#60
David Navarro L\u00f3pez Great to read your comment my dear David. I used law frequently because it is how it is reported in literature. If I quote Charles Law for gases then I have to stick to what it is described. Likewise; the drawbacks law is called so, and if I change it then I might be accused of being dishonest. Yes, I understand fully what you wrote "A law is intended to give form to general behavior. The Law of gravity, explains gravity, it does not make the gravity happen". Yes, there are one than one face to a law and how we interpret it depending on the situation we are in. "Tilting of laws" to serve one circumstance is practiced. Your examples are good enough to explain your thoughts. You wrote " Flowers blossoming means springtime is coming". I smell your flowers through your comment. I hope this means you shall be active soon and that we see the "spring of your good mind".

David Navarro López

منذ 3 سنوات #54

Dear Ali, I have noticed the multiple references you make to "law", and in my opinion, a law is not intended to modify something or to twist the will of the most. A law is intended to give form to general behavior. The Law of gravity, explains gravity, it does not make the gravity happen. The law that allows women to vote, obeyed to a general claim of the society. So the law is intended to regulate and standardize a reality. Therefore, laws are always late compared to the showing of realities. Laws can as well be used to foresee something which for you is unknown, but not for many others. Flowers blossoming means springtime is coming. This is a law, caused by many factors, unknown for a child, who will take it as it is until he will understand all the processes implied on the blossoming. Laws, ultimately, are intended to be taken to their limits, or even to be broken. The ones who are able to twist or break a law, will become super heroes, or mega villains. To be one or the other, sadly enough, only depends on social acceptance. As a rough example, Hitler broke many laws, and initially was a hero. With time, he became a villain. Because he lost. Otherwise, all Europe would be talking German nowadays, and he would still be a hero. American cowboys are seen as heroes, because they won. But the etnical cleaning they did with the indians did not differ so much to what the germans did to the jews. But they are heroes. Laws of humanity were broken in both cases. Both had the same bible, on which there is a law saying "You should not kill" By the way, this law appeared much later than the assasination of Abel by his brother Cain

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #53

#58
Thank you dear Lada for caring to inform me. I hope that you stay safe and in good health.

Lada 🏡 Prkic

منذ 3 سنوات #52

#24
#25 Ali, I couldn't respond to your comments because I've been busy with my two construction projects for the last couple of days. In Croatia, construction sites are still active, and construction continues despite the coronavirus situation. Hoping to comment during Sunday.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #51

#50
Fay Vietmeier You are a "moving library of spiritual quotes?. I must admit that I can't catch up with all this spiritual quotes that you carry with you. ALl I say reading the quotes that it amazes me how close religions are on these issues.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #50

#49
Fay Vietmeier My dear- I hope that you read the post of CityVP Manjit on Pearls and what he wrote about spirits The pearl https://www.bebee.com/producer/@cityvp/the-pearl I look forward to reading your thoughts there.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #49

CityVP Manjit wrote a post in which he stated "Reference: Ali Anani Phd Buzz : WHERE IS THE PEARL? Readers of this post- I strongly recommend that you read this post. The Pearl https://www.bebee.com/producer/@cityvp/the-pearl

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #48

#53
Fay Vietmeier It is interesting that I am reading your comment just after reading the post that our good man CityVP Manjit wrote and stretched the value of this post. You wrote in your comment "even so FAR ahead that human thinking can't stretch to where they are. You capitalized fear in your comment. Interestingly, as per Manjit, fear is a wisdom only if. The Pearl https://www.bebee.com/producer/@cityvp/the-pearl I am commenting soon on this mind-stretching post/There are so many points to discuss and I am giving myself a "thinking pause" before I comment. Of particular interest to you in the post is its view of spiritual value.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #47

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee "Your comment: "scientists who revolutionized science, but were mocked" made me think how very often that people are ahead of their time ... even so FAR ahead that human thinking can't stretch to where they are. I think of Christ who was “mocked” … even hated by the religious establishment because he was rocking their boat … challenging THEIR twisting of Scripture and piling on of THEIR laws Their "confirmation BIAS" blinded them “He came to his own but his own knew him not” "I can give hundred of examples of scientific observation that we can't explain." ... how very HONEST

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #46

#31
Jerry Fletcher Jerry ~ I loved what you said about the "string of pearls" ... and true grit (a good movie) "True grit is the hallmark of a champion, one who strives always for the right. I choose to think that even though the grit at the heart of a pearl is an irritant a good thing comes of it. Each contact in our life is like a gem. Over a life time we collect those gems of contacts and string them together like a string of pearls. And so it goes." ... lovely ;~) ... I was not always a woman of faith ... it begins in a moment & is then a journey ... and as all journeys go: it's unique to the sojourner ... https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/the-synchronicity-of-serendipity-epiphany-coincidence Be well '~)

CityVP Manjit

منذ 3 سنوات #45

Here is my Paradox Wisdom to this buzz. THE PEARL https://www.bebee.com/producer/@cityvp/the-pearl

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #44

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee continued... “The world moves into increased entropy. So, how come the skies and stars don't fall upon us? What is this power that is greater than all this entropy to keep the world in order? Your question reminded me of this passage in Isaiah: “Lift up your eyes and look to the heavens: Who created all these? He who brings out the starry host one by one … and calls forth each of them by name. Because of his great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing.” Just imagine “He knows each star by name” … (there are more stars than grains of sand upon the earth) “There are 10 times more stars in the night sky than grains of sand in the world's deserts and beaches, scientists say. Astronomers have worked out that there are 70 thousand million million million - or seven followed by 22 zeros - stars visible from the Earth through telescope… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/1436902/More-stars-than-grains-of-sand.html By faith I believe what the Scriptures say: “The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” ~ Colossians 1 (in Him all things exist … all things consist)

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #43

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee (part 1) My dear Professor … your questions reveal that you are indeed on a “discovery journey” … adventure awaits ;~) Who gives the soul? Man is created in Gods image … spirit beings with a soul in a body of flesh … “this treasure in a jar of clay” “Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness… (Genesis 1) 2) Who is the controller of our souls? I cannot say who “controls” our souls but I can tell you who restores our souls… “The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters, He restores my soul.” ~ Psalm 23

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #42

#46
Fay Vietmeier I forgot to mention that our inability to predict and therefore our destiny is beyond us is revealed in my post which I published few hours ago Do we need marketing plans? https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/do-we-need-marketing-plans The post shows that it is an almost impossible task to make predictions and the best we may dream of is making 80% correct predictions for three days after which our predictions fall apart rapidly the longer the prediction time span is.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #41

Fay Vietmeier I am happy that your shared your answers on two questions. The Corona Virus indeed has shown our limited ability to predict and testifies to the claim that we not only know little, but also we know less as we acquire more knowledge. This is an interesting fact my spiritual mentor for it keeps the journey interesting and alive. Imagine if we all knew the facts what would happen? Yes, as we get weaker we should realize that is a force greater than all the forces of humans combined.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #40

#24
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I do not have a scientific mind like you or Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic ... but appreciate what you say about “factors beyond our capabilities” … recent example being COVID-19 “predictions” were not even close to what was “projected” … MAGIFIED in error: reality has been 1/10 (thank God) what was “predicted” This post reflects your wide range of thought-capacity my Dear Professor … this is rich reflection … each question worthy of a book … I’ll answer 2 since I can do that without writing a book ;~) “But our inabilities to predict or control devastating events started to percolate in my mind. …What is this power? Almighty God, All-seeing, All-knowing, All-powerful, All-sufficient, Omnipotent & Omniscient …How does it act? …If people have different religions are they all on the same wavelength? Probably not ;~) …Why prophets were limited mostly to our region? SO many questions that to relieve me of any confirmation bias I might have. …How do I know I am correct? … “We are talking about a power that is beyond our imagination”… Yes, we are ;~)

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #39

#23
Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic Lada ~ I take as a compliment that you might have attributed this post being written by me ;~) Can agree that humor helps … “laughter IS good medicine for the soul” (I for one, need to laugh more … am such a serious person ;~) (from) “Redeem the Time” https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/redeem-the-time “Life IS fragile” … throughout human history this has been true: one never knows what event or situation might dramatically change an individual life … or a nation … or a planet. Given its global impact & unprecedented changing of lives … COVID-19 might be considered WWIII But war with an “invisible enemy” … makes clear our INABILITY to control what is uncontrollable Unexpectedly & universally … swift changes are thrust upon us … PRIORITIES are being reordered. In truth, times of uncertainty which pose great challenges … may also be brilliantly disguised opportunities to grow personally … and spiritually.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #38

#41
Dear Fay Vietmeier It is a post that is worthy for sharing. You put great effort in writing it. It is worthy of exposing to the attention of readers.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #37

#40
Fay Vietmeier You are right. In creasing the gap is much easier than filing or bridging it. Just publish a post that negates common and accepted knowledge and be ready for shooting at you. Instead of understanding why somebody thinks this way we try to silence her/him. WE stick to what we know. This isn't pride;it is arrogance.my mentor. We should realize that differing is variety and variety leads to creative ideas. WE need and should encourage different ideas.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #36

#39
Fay Vietmeier Your comment dear Fay reminds me of many scientists who revolutionized science, but were mocked upon. The father of polymers a German scientists when he first introduced new materials called polymers in 1949 he was described by a esteemed scientist as mad. In 1954 the scientist won the Nobel Prize. Stories llike this are many. Even scientists fall in the trap of the conformation bias. I can give hundred of examples of scientific observation that we can't explain. Like singing sand in the desert when the sand is pressed it generates music. till today, we have no explanation. And what fraction of science can one scientist know? Scientist in one field, but literate on many other field. Humility should reveal how little we know about this universe.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #35

#20
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Sweet THANKS for sharing "Redeem the Time" ... I hope the "pearl-seekers" make their way their and find a "pearl of insight"

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #34

#19
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee One of the benefits of growing up around growing things is that you catch principles before you even know what they are I like how you say this Professor: "differing disagreeably only increases the gaps and not bridge them... it is how we fill them or bridge them that matters." I am reminded that there might be MANY detours ... closed roads ... before a bridge actually gets crossed ;~)

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #33

#18
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee (my outdoor project is being rained upon) … I am happy to be able to turn my attention to conversation in “the pearl” … and you my dear Professor Your words are true: “The lasting scientific facts are to show our inabilities and therefore our need for the “lasting power” that control the uncontrollable for humans.” As I wrote in “Redeem the Time” https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/redeem-the-time … war with an “invisible enemy” … makes clear our INABILITY to control what is uncontrollable (Side note: there are many “invisible enemies”) Unexpectedly & universally … swift changes are thrust upon us … PRIORITIES are being reordered. “Illusion of control is arrogance … so goes human pride. Turning our hearts to GOD … this could “turn the tide” God is the Master Architect … and Sovereign Scientist His principles are perfect … universally applicable The principle of sowing & reaping can be applied to all “laws” (spontaneous … fast or slow … TIME is always a factor) The principle that “What a man sows … he reaps” … is FAIR In the spiritual realm: God gives grace. Grace is not “fair” … it is unmerited favor.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #32

Javier \ud83d\udc1d CR We are bombarded with irrelevant and repeating comments by @Fatima Rasheed. This is annoying and we have no way to delete them.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #31

#33
Thank you for the link and it is indeed helpful in understanding what is the foundation of USA advancement today. Like they know- disruption is far easier than building and so it goes dear Ned McDonnell

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #30

#31
Jerry Fletcher This is an interesting comment and has wealth of pearls of wisdom in it. Few months ago I would have never imagined myself writing a spiritual post. It was even in my far domain of interest. However; the coincidence of me exchanging great number of comments with the spiritual thinker Fay Vietmeier and combined with the corona issue I discovered how fragile humans can be. I am still in search of this issue. Like light that shines through darkness and order found in chaotic structures I view the grit in the pearls.They help us remember that in every grit-like situation there is a hidden order- the peal. The lustrous outer surface can be deceptive like a flower excreting sweet materials for insects only to trap them. Food for thought your comment is.

Jerry Fletcher

منذ 3 سنوات #29

Dr. Ali, I am not a spiritual man so this topic is, to me, one of only intellectual interest. It is difficult to find the varied arguments of real guidance. Then, too, I have for years used the analogy of the pearl as how people develop., rolling round the shells of their lives accretting bit by bit until we see only the lustrous outer surface. But as John Rylance points out that gem like outer surface is caused by grit. In my part of the world grit can nave either a negative or a positive connotation. True grit is the hallmark of a champion, one who strives always for the right. I choose to think that even though the grit at the heart of a pearl is an irritant a good thing comes of it. Each contact in our life is like a gem. Over a life time we collect those gems of contacts and string them together like a string of pearls. And so it goes.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #28

#29
Fay Vietmeier Thank you so much for caring to inform my my spiritual mentor. This is intended for I gave little attention to this topic before getting to know you. Glad you are busy a project. It is nice to distant self away from a topic even for few hours to be able to may be see the subject in other lens.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #27

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee There are many rich comments in this post I will answer tomorrow or later this evening ... have been sidetracked by an outside project ... just letting you know ;~) my dearest Professor

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #26

#26
Roberto De la Cruz Utria You can't imagine how your comment elevated my heart. First- you mentioned "The truth is that I believe that this law could only be valid under certain conditions and for a certain period of time". No question and I agree in full. This is why I gave the rich get richer and not poorer if they invest for the benefit of the society. This negates the Drawbacks Law in its heart. Your explanation is sound and reinforces what I claimed in the post. Your second point about the President and his excessive concern being "engaged in restoring world hegemony and supremacy to the USA". This is correct as it follows what I wrote about "The Extreme Effect" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/going-to-the-extreme-effect In this beBee post I wrote "I have noticed unfailingly that whenever go to the extreme we lose. There is always a dark side to extremes. You may love somebody to the extreme and then this beloved one turns out into an enemy" I could rename this post as "The Overflow Law". This is on perfect alignment with your explanation. Your comment my friend added huge value to the post.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #25

#23
Dear Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic Part 2 If we take all the organs of a human being and assemble them together why do we don't get a living human being? What is the soul? Who gives it and where does it go? How could we describe something that is intangible and we can't get hold of? You see I am on a discovery journey. Who is the controller of our souls? The world moves into increased entropy. So, how come the skies and stars don't fall upon us? What is this power that is greater than all this entropy to keep the world in order? I have so many questions that I fail to answer. To be spiritual isn't to ask these questions. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to elaborate. And I don't deny that humor helps, but is it strong enough? If you have answers you shall relax my mind.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #24

#23
Dear Lada, Part 1 I wanted to tag you to this post because I expected you to write a comment like this. I am preparing a post on why scientists and businesses fail to make predictions. Some factors are beyond our capabilities such as predicting the weather or invasion and disruption on a global scale as the corona virus we are facing now. Hurricanes, earthquakes and volcanoes are other examples. We shall never be able to predict them because of the dynamics of the complex systems that make a tiny error in prediction taking the forecast into unexpected trajectory. Other reasons include what Harvey Lloyd discussed in his post today in Confirmation Bias and free will and how they disturb our explanations of events. I am in no way a spiritual person close enough to Fay Vietmeier. But our inabilities to predict or control devastating events started to percolate in my mind. What is this power? How does act? If people have different religions are they all on the same wavelength? Why prophets were limited mostly to our region? SO many questions that to relieve me of any confirmation bias I might have. How do I know I am correct? We are talking about a power that is beyond our imagination.

Lada 🏡 Prkic

منذ 3 سنوات #23

Dear Ali, if I hadn't seen the name of the author of the post, I would have thought this post was written by Fay. :-) I hope you don't get me wrong ... a little humour doesn't hurt, especially these days. 😊 High severity pandemics occur throughout the whole human history and will continue to occur. I echo the comment of Ken Boddie: "Of course, we all have a new common worldwide challenge, but I, for one, am damned if I’m going to join in the echoes of pessimism and criticism of governments, leaders and mankind unless it’s to encourage us to laugh at our situation and relieve the tension. " Humour is the best medicine to help us get through and combat the "corona chaos."

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #22

#21
Thank you Paul Walters

Paul Walters

منذ 3 سنوات #21

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Thought-provoking as always. Thank you.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #20

#17
Fay Vietmeier Thank you for your re-share of the post. I shred your post today to spread the time of its share to get exposed to as many "pearl=seekers" as possible.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #19

#16
Fay Vietmeier Your comment here and the quoted part of my post in your comment are consistent with what I said in my previous reply to you. “I need to do efforts to find the needle of truth in the increasing pile of the unknown and unknowable haystack” … a SMILE from this former farm girl who is reminded of a great treasure in a field … and a “pearl-seeker” “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.” I think I elaborated more in my comment and I see we agree here. I just want to add that we need to differ and create gaps or voids so that we are self-urged to fill them. Differing disagreeably only increases the gaps and not bridge them. The gaps are the same, but it is how we fill them or bridge them that matters. I am amazed by your broad coverage of relevant quotes dear Fay. The farmer in you i flourished in a fertile land.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #18

#15
Fay Vietmeier My initial response is that many “laws” conceived of man are not necessarily truth ... nor do they have spiritual application (which is where the Professor and I usually “differ” … but never disagreeably ;~). I must say I am always doubtful about scientific facts because they keep changing. Even Newton’s Law is doubtful now. There are few valid scientific facts for all times. For example, anything to do with the weather, earthquakes and volcanoes are and shall never be able to predict them correctly. The uncertainty of our prediction increases the longer time span we try to predict for the weather. Punishment and reward in rain, for example, by preventing natural disasters and controlling rainy days are beyond us. The lasting scientific facts are to show our inabilities and therefore our need for the “lasting power” that control the uncontrollable for humans. The above explains why I am in accordance with your following paragraph: The principle of sowing & reaping can be applied to all “laws” (spontaneous … fast or slow … TIME is always a factor) “God is not mocked” … “What a man sows … he reaps” Wise or foolish Greed or generosity Chaos or order

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #17

#1
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I forgot to mention ... I'm sharing this "pearl" ... with the that hope it reaches "pearl-seekers"

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #16

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee continued... “Greed is a spirit … that is never satisfied Like alcoholism: “one drink is too much … a thousand not enough” 4) This is lovely Ali … JOY for the journey are those collected “pearls” … humility knows “there is something Greater … we don’t know” It is when we forget what we think we know … that we begin to learn. “The pearl isn’t the material pearl we find in the oyster. It is the pearls that we collect during the learning journey. It is the pearl of being modest of what we know and not bragging about it. It is the realization that no matter what we know there is something greater that we don’t know.” ~ Ali Anani 5) “We need to be searching for the truth. The biggest truth in life is a spiritual one” … “It is the only unchangeable and lasting fact. God who created the universe threw the challenge on us to realize our need for his constant support. This is the anchor against our weaknesses.” ~ Ali Anani … “Amen & Amen” … my dearest Professor ;~) 100% agreement ;~) “I need to do efforts to find the needle of truth in the increasing pile of the unknown and unknowable haystack” … a SMILE from this former farm girl who is reminded of a great treasure in a field … and a “pearl-seeker” “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.” The Parable of the Pearl of Great Price “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls, who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it.” (Matthew 13)

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 3 سنوات #15

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee 4-15-20: It is with anticipation that I enter the “oyster” of this conversation ;~) in hopes of finding “pearls of insight” It is with much JOY that I respond ;~) My initial response is that many “laws” conceived of man are not necessarily truth ... nor do they have spiritual application (which is where the Professor and I usually “differ” … but never disagreeably ;~) … “the drawbacks law” and your daughter, Sara’s love … don’t get this (I’m sure Sara loves you ;~) “The rich get richer and the poor get poorer” … when spiritually applied this is truth (Great example Professor ‘~) 1) The principle of sowing & reaping can be applied to all “laws” (spontaneous … fast or slow … TIME is always a factor) “God is not mocked” … “What a man sows … he reaps” Wise or foolish Greed or generosity Chaos or order “Rich or poor” … God does not place value on things the way man does. A billionaire is as a poor man in God’s eyes … it is not our bank account it’s our heart (here lies your wealth … the treasure that you are & the treasure that God sees) 2) You said this elsewhere … packed with insight: “I need to step back and magnify the differences in thoughts to see them differently being magnified instead of distorted. You know when we focus on issue too closely the picture gets blurred and we come to conclusion from a blurred picture that could be deceptive.” This reminds me of holding a book up to your face and trying to read … you might catch a few words or sentence’s … but real meaning is lost or “distorted” That is why it is wise when something is bothering or troubling … challenging to us to step back. Perhaps even lay the matter aside until being able to thoughtfully consider the matter (part 1)

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #14

Few words that speak lots of wisdom. Love this no grit no pearl.

John Rylance

منذ 3 سنوات #13

You have to get rid of the knarled shell and slithery flesh to reach the pearl. Summed up as no grit no pearl.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #12

#9
Thank you dear Debasish Majumder I agree with you. Humans behave irrationally many times and only after causing huge damage they wake up to the evil of what they did. We have brains to think, but once they the brains are polluted with greed, fear, envy and the like they function. with chaos. I appreciate your bringing these issues to the light.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #11

#8
You present a lovely explanation f the negative statement of my daughter that is positive in its intention. I really like your reasoning. I am happy we share the same experience with our daughters.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #10

#6
Thank you Harvey Lloyd for your well-composed comment. I need to emphasize first that the quote "My search later led me to a challenging reference in which the author wrote “The more you want to be spiritually enlightened the more self-centered and shallow you become in trying to get there”. It is by the author in blue link that I quoted. My post concluded this quote is far from real when it comes to spiritual faith. I completely honor your view. I have no right to give myself the choice to do research and explore possibilities that I deny others with the same. We are all discovering and searching with wonderment, imagination and reasoning. We mayn't arrive at the same conclusion. We even my end up in opposite directions. This is great because truth isn't owned by any one. It is a perpetual search for the truth. You put this in the right perspective " I can not judge another’s choice as I am only standing on the sidewalk outside. If a query comes my way, I can only show the map I used to answer these prying questions of Origin, meaning, morality and destiny" Being “spiritual” is the process of finding ones on path while dealing with origin, meaning, morality and destiny. The pearl is different for each. This is what I meant by we are on a journey and the pearls we collect may differ for each one of us. Even for me a pearl today may not be a pearl tomorrow. This is a continuous process and the pearl is knowing what we thought a pearl yesterday isn't the real pearl I am searching for. As long as we continue with our discovery journey we shall collect more pearls and drop many. This is self-renewing. I admire your mind my friend.

Debasish Majumder

منذ 3 سنوات #9

I guess, entropy gives us an understanding of atrophy too! apart from human being, no other creature dare to think and even design a jig which may go against nature. rest all creatures hardly bother about the natural catastrophe we human are confronting. we act against nature, not caring nature will surely follow its due course bringing topsy turvy to the available fabric. I hardly can envisage the God's role in this available scenario! at the same time my belief is that by virtue of nature's design we may develop our immune system and finally can emerge as victorious. however, wonderful insight sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! enjoyed read immensely and shared. thank you for the buzz sir.

Harvey Lloyd

منذ 3 سنوات #8

My daughter, Sara, told mean one day “dad, because I love you so much I stopped loving you”. I have read this comment before in some of your previous posts. If i might be a little forward here, i would suggest that she stopped loving the ownership of you and began to love the heart of the man. She most likely became aware that you are a part of her existence and that existence stretches beyond the physical (Health, well-being and traveling). We went through a similar experience with one of our daughters we had to let the physical/material aspects go. Only then could we begin to truly love our daughter. In a way that served her and not us.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #7

I strongly encourage the readers to read also the well-thought post of Fay Vietmeier because it integrates so well with this post ... Redeem the Time ... https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/redeem-the-time

Harvey Lloyd

منذ 3 سنوات #6

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee You have asked the ultimate question. On the surface it could be viewed as antagonistic, but knowing you and your exploring nature, i would suggest not. But i would like to take a stab at the comment with the same exploring nature. “The more you want to be spiritually enlightened the more self-centered and shallow you become in trying to get there” Your comment represents a paradigm that “spiritual” is in the seeking of the same pearl. Should I stand on the sidewalk and listen, watch and experience the house in front of me, should I measure this by the pearls I see as spiritual? Or, do I see the home as individual and needing specific pearls only they can create/find? Being “spiritual” is the process of finding ones on path while dealing with origin, meaning, morality and destiny. The pearl is different for each. But the real question is the map that you use to find your custom designed pearl. Each of us is unique when we realize that answering the above paradigms (Origin…Destiny) we must choose ourselves. I can not judge another’s choice as I am only standing on the sidewalk outside. If a query comes my way, I can only show the map I used to answer these prying questions of Origin, meaning, morality and destiny. Whatever spiritual path one takes it is the question of the four paradigms they seek. Should you seek to dig deeper; Why are these four areas something we would seek? Where did this nagging aspect of the human come from? Why is it that those who seek self-serving destinies only, always fail at peace and joy? If money and status is the destiny then it is merely a process. But if peace and joy, outside of materiel things is your path... Then you will wrestle with the four areas mentioned.

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #5

#4
I agree with you fully. My personal experience in getting more than hundred comments for many of my posts signals the engagement we find on beBee and nowhere else. I thank you for your continued support my friend. This is energizing.

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

منذ 3 سنوات #4

#3
It's perhaps next to impossible to find people who we can agree with 100%. However, this platform enables constructive communication among us, something that alleviates the problem to a great extent. I, for one, am grateful for that. As for that post that tested your nerves, I'm glad you transmuted that impression into this article :-)

Ali Anani

منذ 3 سنوات #3

#2
This post tested my nerves. SO, your timely comment dear Zacharias \ud83d\udc1d Voulgaris is a reward and I am extremely thankful for it and for your reshare of the post in such an elegant manner.

Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris

منذ 3 سنوات #2

You know when you go to an ice cream shop and try out various flavors until at one point you have this moment of bliss because you've found the one that aligned perfectly to your taste? Well, that's what this post did for me! I hope it does the same for you too...

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منذ 3 سنوات #1

Fay Vietmeier- you are mentioned in this post in the given order

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