Creativity Sweet Zone

Creativity Sweet Zone

I was pondering on the most creative times. These are times that we suffer from the tensions of dealing with opposites. Are there best times for creativity? If so, when and why these times exist and what are their sweet zones or spots?

I reviewed some of the greatest creative ideas and why they were born while asleep. I thought of my own ideas and when they were born?

I even considered nature and the spring times when the rainy showers of April generate the May flowers. Creative ideas maybe the flowers of the showers of confused and scattered ideas that seem to have no resemblance to reality, but then proved they were the seed that allowed the crystals of new ideas to form. Who could think that while asleep Kekule found the inspiration that a benzene ring closed like a serpentine closes on itself as if biting its tail? Spring is the sweet zone between winter and summer.

Live the spring of creativity and flowering of ideas. Spring is the season with atmospheric energy and tension of unsettled weather conditions. What is the spring for generating creative ideas?

I find that the best creative times are those times that we you have two opposites close enough to bond, but not too far to be completely separated or too close to repel each other. The reason that great ideas come during sleep is that when the logical brain is still functioning at low level to allow for the conscious mind to function. This way it may be easier to swing from one brain to the other.

A second question jumps to mind. Why don’t we always generate ideas while asleep? One reason is that we go to bed while our logical brains are fatigued to think. We need it to be functional, but not dominating. This is possible if we retire to bed at these times and then we have the two brains- the logical and creative brain- bonding together. The tension of the opposites may be tuned to function without one brain dominating the other. This is the spring of creativity that is energetic enough to allow for new thinking structures to emerge. It is not the conscious mind or the unconscious mind. It is not that you asleep or awake. It is not that you are ideas-oriented or people-oriented. It is not that you are sure or doubtful about an idea. It is both in each case. It is the twinning of the opposites that forms emerging new ideas.

That we talk frequently about night dreaming and not about daydreaming may make sense. Daydreaming is the deliberate and conscious act of distracting self away from reality. The unconscious mind is idle. This is contrasting with night dreaming and the opportunity for the conscious and unconscious mind to work together. Maybe it is not even the swing from one brain to the other; more it is their fusion into a new brain that leads to new thinking.

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I was relieved to find these thoughts have firm support from recent research findings. Our brains do creative work well when you’re tired. These are the times when we have both brains close enough to work together.

The above-mentioned finding makes me question the value of creative sessions in organizations. Many fail because the logical minds of the participants are on alert and ready to criticize creative ideas because they seem to be illogical. The separation of the brains between members thinking logically and other thinking creatively deprive them from the opportunity of generating new ideas. I think that more thoughts should be given to the best times for these sessions to be held to have any real value. The spring hours of the day are short and we need such sessions to be held during those times.

The minds become blind if too tired, and tend to be critical if completely relaxed. We want times when the minds are in both situations. Call them the spring times of creativity.

Acknowledgement and dedication- I wrote this post following a comment by my notable friend Harvey LloydΒ to go to bed before falling completely sleepy so that new ideas may pop up in my mind. This post resulted from me experiencing his valuable suggestion. Thank you Harvey

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Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #57

Thank you my dear Professor and creativity mentor Orderly IDEAS flowing forth like a "well-spring" from my spirit Blessings upon your day & family Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

My spiritual mentor Fay Vietmeier- have a "sweet" day that is full of orderly creative ideas

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #55

#58
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee That is why your are the "Professor" "Is it compliment or complement? Yes, structure and reflection are integrals" From chaos ... order: And this is a great challenge: capturing all those thoughts & creative IDEAS and putting them in order Now that would be "SWEET" The "sweetness of times" ... I shall ponder that

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#57
I have the same issue dear Proma \ud83d\udc1d Nautiyal or I cannot recreate the same magic in written words that I had so vividly seen the night earlier".Maybe that is why it is called sweet zone because it is the sweetest of times. Yes, is my answer to your question. We need to have both brains interacting fast enough to create ideas that either mind may create alone. You write and you experience these sweet zones. It is frustrating when you have a sweet idea that turns bitter because we lost it when we wake up. This explains the need to write ideas as they occur to us. I use the mobile phone these days to record my ideas as they pop up. Time has its sweet zones my good friend..

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#56
Is it compliment or complement? Yes, structure and reflection are integrals.

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

Proma 🐝 Nautiyal

1 year ago #52

Such a lovely buzz! I have often found myself wondering about the same. Some of my best story ideas pop up in form of vivid dreams but unfortunately I seem to lose them first thing in the morning, or I cannot recreate the same magic in written words that I had so vividly seen the night earlier. I also often find answers to questions, I ask to myself and the Divine, when I am sleeping. Your buzz sheds a lot of clarity as to why that might be happening. There's yet another time when creativity seems to peak, I guess it's in the shower. The mind is so relaxed, not worried about what to do or say next it getting things done right away, that the best story ideas and solutions pop in the mind during that time. Do you think this occurs because of the same sweet zone of tiredness giving way to relaxation? Would love to know your thoughts on the same. :)

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #51

#55
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee My dearest professor ... I consider that conformation and a reflection of how the mirrors in our minds compliment one another ("our" meaning you & I)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#54
Fay Vietmeier Even though I attended a wedding of a relative last night and came home late I couldn't still respond to your comment even if my eyes need "pruning" You wrote "GROWTH can be a continuous process". I smiled and opened my mouth in surprise. This is because I intend to write my next post on step-wise growth versus logarithmic growth(the main types of growth". So,my response shall be next week on this.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #49

#53
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee IDEAS do need pruning ... GROWTH can be a continuous process (I would like to believe) I imagine myself as a beautiful Bonsai ... the eye of the "Master-Gardner" looks ... sees the desired outcome and prunes The wise Bonsai ... submits to the pruning for it trusts the Masters prescient ability The Bonsai is lovingly and patiently shaped... until it becomes what the Master intended A masterpiece ;~)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#52
More fruits from you my dear friend Fay Vietmeier/Your pruning example is simply fantastic. I am sure that with pruning our ideas as we prune trees then more fruits shall fall on us.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #47

#51
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee A very good point that you make Ali Pruning is an art ... to optimize growth ... I was thinking about the "Master-Gardener" ... "The Vine and the Branches" John 15 β€œI am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. β€œI am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit...

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#50
Fay Vietmeier Your comment says that you are "The wonderful well-spring spirit". Lovely comment. I just want to add that pruning if done incorrectly may impair the growth of plants

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #45

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee CityVP Manjit Wonderful insight from the "best of bees" Totally agree that control & criticism confine creativity. β€œCreativity demands oxygen” … ALL that grows requires oxygen and LIGHT (this in the physical & the spiritual) β€œThe creativity was pruned and the roots were not” … I see this in a very different way PRUNING actually produces NEW growth (in the physical & especially in the spiritual) it is essential to optimize GROWTH Having deep roots will assure a strong foundation to build upon … and GROW in creativity & in life.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#48
III am extremely thankful to your thoughtful answer. I am going to sleep on it before responding. It needs full comprehension.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

1 year ago #43

Inferiority complex can include all other things beyond or well outside the realm of latent potential and capability. Just because someone has an inferiority complex does not mean that they have the capability to transcend their underachievement and become the person they should have been or were capable of becoming. Inferiority complex that creates a need for approval maybe more inclined to build a sand castle of trying to prove one's worth. If we are taught our social place or standing in society, we may have accepted our self as inferior in relationship to whoever we are following. Just because someone feels superior does not mean that they will be great leaders, if anything people may hold positions which are beyond their capability level. Take a smart kid with a not-so-smart but disciplinarian parent or at least a parent that has failed to see or does not have time to develop their child's skills. Here the child level sets to the level the parent has bound them to and in trusting their judgement, it is only when reality proves that we can do more, that we begin to identify with symptoms of an imposter syndrome. Being one's own worst enemy involves constantly focused on what we do wrong, maybe even be submerged by the tyranny of perfectionism, which involves wasting our energy on avoiding disappointment or castigation. That area of inferiority complex that touches or an be converted as creativity is relevant to creativity, but that does not mean that all areas of inferiority complex are related to our potential to grow or having the ability to be creative. It is a good question to think about this relationship with an inferiority complex.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#46
I enjoyed the Reverse Dunning-Kruger effect and your reasoning. I wonder how you would relate this to inferiority complex? I am keen to read your answer.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

1 year ago #41

#42
& #44 Thank You. In terms of reverse creativity think about "inversion" as James Clear talks about it https://jamesclear.com/inversion Here we contemplate the destructive and from that sharpen our creative ability because we anticipate what could go wrong. I referenced the Dunning-Kruger effect in a response at LinkedIn but the reason I was thinking about it was because of this thread. With the Dunning-Kruger effect people have a tendency to overestimate their own ability and that explains people like Donald Trump who like to project that they are great thinkers when they are not i.e. "illusory superiority". It is the reverse of that effect which is interesting because we call that effect more popularly as '"Imposter Syndrome". I do not like the term "imposter syndrome" instead the reverse of Dunning-Kruger is the actual explanation - how many times have we seen highly capable people not believe in themselves or not recognize their own brilliance, so they assume they are merely average. Thus reverse creativity is a reverse Dunning-Kruger effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOLmD_WVY-E The issue of reverse creativity is not only the waste of skills that society could benefit from, but it is the loss of personal success as the reverse of Dunning-Kruger means we may be ceding our power to people less competent than us, or not taking opportunities we do not believe we are good enough for. The consequences of that is we never elect the best President, or very smart women cede their personal capital to men, when reverse creativity means both that talent goes wasted but society continues to reward the ignorant. It takes an act of creativity to awaken our own creativity and then break away our chains.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

1 year ago #40

#42
& #44 Thank You. In terms of reverse creativity think about "inversion" as James Clear talks about it https://jamesclear.com/inversion Here we contemplate the destructive and from that sharpen our creative ability because we anticipate what could go wrong. I referenced the Dunning-Kruger effect in a response at LinkedIn but the reason I was thinking about it was because of this thread. With the Dunning-Kruger effect people have a tendency to overestimate their own ability and that explains people like Donald Trump who like to project that they are great thinkers when they are not i.e. "illusory superiority". It is the reverse of that effect which is interesting because we call that effect more popularly as '"Imposter Syndrome". I do not like the term "imposter syndrome" instead the reverse of Dunning-Kruger is the actual explanation - how many times have we seen highly capable people not believe in themselves or not even recognizing their own brilliance so they assume they are merely average . So reverse creativity is reverse Dunning-Kruger effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOLmD_WVY-E The issue of reverse creativity is not only the waste of skills that society could benefit from, but it is the loss of personal success as the reverse of Dunning-Kruger means we may be ceding our power to people less competent than us, or not taking opportunities we do not believe we are good enough for, and the consequences of that is we never elect the best President, or very smart women cede the personal capital to men, when reverse creativity means both that talent goes wasted but society continues to rewards the ignorant. It takes an act of creativity to awaken our own creativity and then break away any chains.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#42
I am glad we share the same feelings.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#42
I am humbled by your comment dear Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic will feel the same.

Lada 🏑 Prkic

Lada 🏑 Prkic

1 year ago #37

#40
I just wanted to say that your comment is one of the best I've ever read on beBee.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#40
Your comment filled me with deep emotions. Your last paragraph summarizes your thoughts beautifully. It reminded me of plants that grow with aerial roots growing downwards with gravity. You also stretch the value of the idea of a sweet zone of creativity. Too much control versus hardly any control. WE need both so that no one would overwhelm and the sweet zone disappears. No control and we have confusion generating too many new ideas. Too much command and control and we end up with the sad situation you described "..., creativity does not branch out for oxygen, it digs deeper underground, we turn the tree of creativity upside down and those years are damaging because life is not best when it is buried like roots". We bury creativity. I love this idea. It is terrible, but to the point/ But creativity stays alive, but dormant and when conditions allow it awakens up. No wonder conservative societies have had very little contributions to creativity. Controlling social forces may become excessive and the sweet zone of creativity diminishes. Your comment expands the value of the tree as a metaphor for creativity and I think a new perspective is emerging. May I call this Reverse Creativity?

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

1 year ago #35

#39
My own experiences are that as creativity was pruned, the roots were not. My experiences is that my own creativity developed in the hidden world of roots and so I did utilize creativity but to create my own world. My school reports mainly said "Manjit stares into space and does nothing, he is very lazy" - but it was not laziness, creative people can either withdraw into their own world or worse they shift their creativity to engage in maladjusted choices. That is why I am not surprised to find bright people caught by addiction or getting in trouble with the law. Thankfully I did not move into a darker world of either crime or dark rebellion, I simply tuned out the world that was harsh or destroying creative values. Creativity that goes underground is creativity that does not add value much needed value to society. Creative people denied creative space or experiences or education that enrich creativity, simply shift their creativity to maintain a different reality. Yet that different reality comes with costs where no one can see where the roots of creativity are going, and at the same time recognizing how much life there should be in the "tree of life". When people look at some people and say "they live in their own world", the world is not benefiting from that world - yet creative people are simply using their creativity in more wasteful rather than value creating ways. Think about the life of women in highly patriarchal societies - women who lived under these conditions found ways of being creative but lost out that which would have contributed so much to society. Creativity demands the oxygen where creativity branches out into the world, but in cases like mine or in the case of women and in the case of strict societies limiting people's freedoms, creativity does not branch out for oxygen, it digs deeper underground, we turn the tree of creativity upside down and those years are damaging because life is not best when it is buried like roots.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

One way to tell if somebody is creative is reading posts by him/her. I have always admired your creative writing CityVP Manjit. This is reflected in your writing ". If ever the damage is done in the pruning of the tree of creativity, it is emerging out of a cocooned and protected existence". The tree metaphor is indicative of your high potential of creativity. It is so unfortunate that your bringing up that kept you in the wrong zone and limited your creativity potential. To make things worse, your teacher who criticized your painting pruned your creativity tree again with harsh comments. One way to kill creativity is to logically criticize creative ideas. Creativity is fueled by imagination that don't follow logic for creativity is an emerging thinking that logical thinking fails to predict. The two should work together and fuse into something new. It is the fusion of distant thinking patterns and logic alone will fail to produce. We are excellent in killing the creativity sweet zone and make it a bitter one.

CityVP Manjit

CityVP Manjit

1 year ago #33

While I am strong in the reflective thinking areas I continue to be not so developed in deeper levels of critical thinking and have lots of room to recover lost creative thinking potential. It is only when I came across the most creative of people who work in creative agencies that I realized just how much my left brain absorbed a life that emanated in learning to fear and consequently bred to be one of defensive reactions and the need to control as a defensive reaction. That is the consequences of an extremely sheltered upbringing where I was taught that the world is principally a very dangerous place and the best strategy is to stay away from it. If ever the damage is done in the pruning of the tree of creativity, it is emerging out of a cocooned and protected existence. I was lucky that I found the white space of the Internet at the age of 37, and now 21 years later the journey continues to unlearn and extract out deep seated fears and naive views. It is difficult to imagine the person I would have been had the creative impulse not been pruned away, but I do know that there was a time when I was young where I can remember a year where I did begin to paint well, but in just one year a harsh teacher whose criticism's rained on me, shut the creative spark off by the age of 8. I remember just how fearful my first engagements on the Internet were in 1998, but the time alone with this tiny window and portal to the world began to grow back (very slowly) a small part of that creativity that had been pruned away. It is only this year that I have finally began reading books, but even that is not prolific but enough to stir dormant creative pathways. For sure I have creative aspects that I retained - but there is much that got lost over decades. It is in the presence of creative people that I am learning to revive that lost creativity.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Javier \ud83d\udc1d CR. There are few points that I would like to mention: - on the mobile phone I get the number of views 24.1K versus 33.7K on the laptop. Which one is correct? - I have no clue why this post increased over the last for days from 8K to 24K. Who are the readers? Is there a way to find out - The engagement rate on this post is far less than my less read posts. It would be nice to find out why. I wish you and your team on beBee a Very happy, joyful and profitable years. Congrats on your reaching the point of profitability. I wholeheartedly wish you more success. As a side note my newly-wed daughter spent part of her honeymoon in Madrid. I asked her if she could reach you while there, but apparently was too busy to do that.

Bill Stankiewicz, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

#34
thx Ali, you just make me want to talk all night long!!! Keep up the outstanding efforts my friend

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#33
You ooze honey dear Bill. I thank you also for sharing the buzz.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#32
A great comment my friend Bill Stankiewicz, \ud83d\udc1d Brand Ambassador. In fact, it is your longest comment on any of my posts. You know that big cities are repelling young talents because of the rising cost of sustaining a quality life. That may be good for the unfortunate areas to attract talents and benefit from their presence. It is also good for the talents because they don't have financial and traffic burdens which free their minds to do what they are doing best.

Bill Stankiewicz, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

A SWEET BUZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill Stankiewicz, 🐝 Brand Ambassador

Ali, you produce such sweet honey of a post as always. As I digress let me share here on many folks are doing well here in Georgia by being creative: During the past decade, talent has become the most important driver of economic vibrancy. Regions such as Austin and Seattle are rock star metros thanks in part to their ability to provide employers with seemingly endless pools of smart young professionals. Having a growing pool of talent is especially important in an era when labor is scarce and more difficult to attract. The US unemployment rate remains near a historic low, and the proportion of Americans who move each year has fallen by approximately 50% over the past 40 years. In recent years, however, the success of several of the country’s most economically dynamic regions has been undermined by quality of life challenges. In San Francisco, the median sales price of a single-family home now tops $1 million. In one Metro Los Angeles county, 35% of residents commute more than two-hours round trip each day. In Boston, only 13% of residents have a commute that is less than 30 minutes. Soaring home prices and increased traffic congestion in these and other big population centers are pushing a growing number of highly educated workers out to more affordable locales.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Thank you Javier \ud83d\udc1d CR for for support by sharing this buzz.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#29
Fay Vietmeier- I enjoyed immensely reading your comment and how you experience the seasons. "Other times it’s a β€œT&T” (tossing & turning) night"- love this T&T phrase. Keep tossing and turning till that chaos turns to order. I said before that I consider self-organizing of chaotic thoughts is the reward we get for our patience and persistence (The P&P" factor. You shall be rewarded and get the harvest. That famous "DRAFT" is to have its harvest soon, I hope.

Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

1 year ago #24

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Hello my dear Professor … I’m just jumping into the conversation … (can’t see any comments before #19 -Harvey’s) I love the connection to seasons … and creativity Spring especially which represents planting & growth … oh course you’d expect that from this β€œwell-spring spirit” ;~) Fall … represents harvest … in many instances time may be a factor in creative reward: what you plant in one season may not flourish until another season Seasons present & require unique conditions as do some creative processes Personal note: I am "hard-pressed on many sides" ... experiencing a season of β€œchallenges” which deter creativity (IDEAS abound ... but order is lacking ;~) Which reminds you of something you said about putting order to chaos I need a RESTED mind … & peaceful, ordered environment to THINK & be creative … but when too much β€œpresses in”… I feel distracted & disorganized (some things related to my business must get done) When my head hits the pillow … sometimes I am fast asleep Other times it’s a β€œT&T” (tossing & turning) night I dreamed of a client last night who is hard to get follow-through from /help me …help him ;~) Tonight I’m going to dream about getting one of my famous β€œDRAFT” finished ;~) 2) the image you choose is beautiful ;~)

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#27
Thank you dear Tausif Mundrawala for your wishes

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#25
Thank you dear Tausif Mundrawala for your good sense and sharing the post. I forgot to tag you because I mentioned daydreaming in the post. Dream well and generate creative ideas. Be well

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#21
This is why our societies are becoming chaotic. We think we know. In fact, what we know is very little. We proud ourselves of what we know without humbling them with what we don't know. We know as long as we think we don't know.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#20
Your comment and combined with the previous comments by Jerry Fletcher #13 #10 and my responses to Jerry will be a great source for a creative post. Those ideas of yours both are treasure not to be highlighted.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#18
I wake up with a correction dear Harvey Lloyd. I have just edited the post and added the last paragraph, in which I mention you and your valuable suggestion. Yes, what we observe and what may have elapsed our observation might be the talk between the two brains before falling in deep sleep. You are spot on. That you generate new questions means you open a new round for the talking brains to sleep on and see what emerges,

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #18

#19
On a side note. I listened to a scientist who is highly published and has a keen career in the public, discuss that nothing if really something. In an attempt to not deal with the true casualties current science is displaying in origins and destinations. Amazingly he has very large cheerleading squad who thinks the same way he does. Science both hard and social has lost all credibility within its public domain. Some have even ventured to state that science is becoming the new religion. Requiring more faith than any religion humans have experienced.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #17

#19
If we conclude that the levels are degrees of openness within active listening, then i say yes there are different levels. We have all been accustomed to team members who begin to defend their area of expertise when new ideas come before them. EIther through fears of failure or stress on resources. This reduces their ability to present their skills and begins to shutdown the rest of the group as new ideas must now deal with fears first. After 30 minutes all minds have become logical, taping the creative side would be easier with a tree.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#16
It is surprising that same people who reject your thoughts are the same people who create new ideas using the same thoughts you offer in your comment Harvey Lloyd. Yes, I recall your comment on "This was the reason for my comment concerning the last fifteen minutes. It is during this time we can prayerfully condition our mind to respond to the two halves discussion". Unfortunately, I lost track of its reference.I concur fully and again based on my experience I say it is a big yes. This is why I highlighted the idea that we need to be sleepy to allow for imagination and also slightly awake so that the two brains may talk to each other. Enough to talk, but not long enough for the logical mind to start criticizing. Are there different levels of activities for our conscious acts?

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #15

#17
Our senses throughout the day take in more than we can manage during real time. A lot is going on in conversations and meetings. We can open ourselves to the process by identifying various positions, word choice and body language. ANother area is to consider what you didn't see and maybe should have. Aligning these thoughts in outline form and attempting to draw wisdom from the details not understood at the time, we can sleep on the new findings. Hopefully waking to some new queries of the points. I know i wake up with better questions more than solutions.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#15
You are an originator thinker dear Harvey Lloyd. Yes, when the two brains "meet" and talk to each other things emerge without any prior planning. Is it their chemical bonding? Is it there fusion? Whatever it is, what counts is the emerging ideas that broaden our perspectives. Avert good point your raise is that we need long-enough sleeping time to keep the two brains conversing. I don't want to repeat my own stories. I can well remember that the breakthrough in my PhD research came in a dream. What is equally important to have a way to record your dream for in the morning they disappear faster than they emerged.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #13

This was the reason for my comment concerning the last fifteen minutes. It is during this time we can prayerfully condition our mind to respond to the two halves discussion. If we go to bed with logical processes the images of reconciliation will be difficult to recognise. If we go to bed with sugar plums dancing in our head then we will live in an imaginary world that will not compute with tomorrows logic. The idea is thoughts of wisdom, understanding and openness to the the thoughts and images that may come our way in slumber. Caution though the scientific worldview feels this is total voodoo. Yet we live in a world where marketing has used the images of reconciliation to help us make purchasing decisions.

Harvey Lloyd

Harvey Lloyd

1 year ago #12

The two hemispheres of the brain are strange enough alone, when combined it is a chemical nightmare in understanding what is going on. How you broached the issues is from a consciousness perspective. Meaning that consciousness is separate from the synapse and other materials we call the brain. This is a perspective that is losing popularity within the darwinian science set. They are cleving to the material world view where only cause and effect that can be explained is accepted. Yet here we are. The interesting points are the sleep part. During sleep the two sides reconcile. If we evade this reconciliation long enough sleep deprivation becomes acute. So the larger question is what goes on during this several hours of brain reconciliation? My reading thus far state that the right and left brain show each other their stuff. The left with language and the right with images and large picture views. The right brain is hard to decipher as it hasn't any language but has images and thoughts/themes. The availability to these two halves discussion when we return to reality is the difficult issue. The ability to let go of logic long enough to reconcile the imagery with the current thoughts is rewarding.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#13
+Jerry- absolutely, and I fully concur with your comment. Many managers are trapped in the poverty gap of habitual thinking and either ideas fall in this trap or they are false in their opinion. Or, may be it is a poverty gap of conservative thinking that stands against new ideas. This is how the ball bounces, just to emulate yours and this how it goes.

Jerry Fletcher

Jerry Fletcher

1 year ago #10

#11
Dr. Ali, You reinforce my observation that one of the myths of management is that more minds make for more and better ideas. That seems to be the fall back for managers that have little or no creativity and less faith in the ability of their staff. And they wonder why it doesn't work! And so it goes.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Fay Vietmeier- being the creative well-spring spirit you may find this post interesting to you. This is because I described spring as the sweet zone between winter and summer.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#10
Dear Jerry, I thank you for your detailed and well-outlined comment. I liked in particular your writing "That's why creative problems are generally left with small teams, usually fewer than four". I fully agree because they may not create group influence in such small numbers. That organizations separate the generation of ideas from the subsequent logical evaluation is commendable. What happens is that in many organizations a large group participates in generating ideas with some members tilted towards logical thinking and they aim at shooting ideas prematurely. The discovered of polymers when addressed a scientific gathering to present his ideas and novel findings was described as a crazy researcher by a notable chemist. The discoverer (Staudinger) won the Noble Prize in chemistry five years later. This is how it goes.

Jerry Fletcher

Jerry Fletcher

1 year ago #7

Dr. Ali, Working in ad agencies and direct marketing and PR allowed me to work with people that got paid for their creativity on a daily basis. Even in organizations that do that kind of work it becomes obvious that some people aren't but rather look for the problems in any suggestion. That's why creative problems are generally left with small teams, usually fewer than four. They have the ability to generate a volume of ideas before shifting to a logical approach for evaluation and, even then, the trust their guts. You can train folks to be more creative (Synectics) but even then you must have a facilitator to keep folks on track and be wary of the little comments that can throw a participant in to a tailspin. James Webb Young, a Hall of Fame Advertising executive wrote a booklet called "A Technique for Producing Ideas" first published in 1940. It is still valid. And still available on Amazon. And so it goes.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#8
Who wants it to be like that; (EQUAL OR DIFFERENT) That is aware that life is a seed that we must sow. It is a wonderful event, in its similarity we can call it spring, it honors and merits the origin of water, life, love, peace, faith, hopes. Then they refer changes to cite different routes (DIFFERENT LIVES). Good thoughts to add to the spring times and its flowery season Oswaldo Enrique Diaz Delgado

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#6
well thought comment Adel Elshiekh. I don't dispute for a second what you wrote "I thought creative born into minds once the person stay alone and think on even on the routine habitat actions". One definition of creativity is to turn the familiar into familiar and the unfamiliar to familiar. Spot on you are.

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#4
Dear Oswaldo Enrique Diaz Delgado- you wrote that to remember that a word, a gesture, a hug are infinitely necessary for the soul. Well-said

Pascal Derrien

Pascal Derrien

1 year ago #3

#2
no quite the opposite just assessing them from different angles a bit like a kaleidoscopic juggling πŸ€”

Ali 🐝 Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

#1
I wonder how exhausted your mind is while cycling. Do you find yourself judging the ideas right away>

Pascal Derrien

Pascal Derrien

1 year ago #1

I am more a daydreamer ideas come up while running or cycling πŸ€”

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