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Germination of Ideas

Germination of Ideas

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A great source for seeds of ideas is the exchange of messages between the thoughtful minds of Harvey Lloyd and I. In a rather old message that stayed dormant in my mind is what Harvey wrote “I only direct you to the comments you are drawing. You "pierced a few through the heart". A writer could only hope for such an achievement”.

I found myself asking if ideas germinate in our minds or hearts or even in both of them. Does germination of ideas to produce “ideas Seedlings” require what good seeds need to germinate in farms? If our minds are compacted with ideas will these ideas compete as seeds compete for resources and space? Is it good to keep piling ideas in our limited mind space? How will these ideas germinate?

I found myself considering the “Paradox of Enrichment”. This means that sometimes increasing the food to a living body may actually lead to its extinction. Ideas are “food for thought” and hence I kept asking myself if such food may lead to depriving our minds rather than enriching them. The other paradox that popped up is the “Paradox of Plenty”. Countries with rich natural resources tend to be less progressed than countries who import them. Even countries with heavy rains tend to have less drinking water available than countries with less rainfall, but with more available drinking water. Is this the curse of plenty? Is there in analogy the “paradox of plenty of ideas”?

We are bombarded of new resources to generate plentiful ideas such as:

· From having many engaged followers

· From plentiful posts to read

· From plentiful free e-books to download

· From many free new tools to download

· From plentiful and continuing supplies of free Aps.

· From the exchange of messages and comments

· And the list expands and new resources of ideas keep emerging

Plentiful milk causes problem for breasts-feeding babies. Plentiful rain tends to have issues such as their dampening of the soils and the seeds tend to spoil because of bacterial growth.

The paradox is that having rich resource may lead to poverty. I call this “The Paradox of the free” as it may slave us.
Ali Anani

It is not enough to have rich free resources to cause rainy ideas in our minds. This could lead to the opposite and cause poverty of ideas. Seeds of ideas are living bodies and have therefore a limited longevity. Such ideas may age and lose their value. Like seeds of plants as they are affected by environmental and internal factors deciding the longevity of these seeds. Ideas in our minds are affected by the same factors. Allow ideas to germinate and try to provide them with a friendly mind so that they may germinate.

I return to the comment of Harvey that I mentioned earlier. I hope the many questions asked in this post would help you in piercing the hearts of these ideas so that they may germinate.


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Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #103

#123
Fay Vietmeier I love the way you mixed what Harvey Lloyd described the importance of soil and your thought here to produce a new type of seed. This is creativity

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #102

#122
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee And may it be ;~) That God grant favorable winds to carry the "seeds" to be an "Implanting of Hope" in "good soil" ... and the "new lands" become fruitful ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #101

#121
We need to spread great post dear Fay Vietmeier as the wind disperses seeds to new lands.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #100

#120
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Just as "feedback is honey" ... so is sharing ;~) very meaningful to the "bee called me" ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #99

I refer he readers to a post by Fay Vietmeier, in which she responded to this post. It is a very rich post to read and it shall engage your hearts and minds too. “The heart of the matter IS the matter of the heart” https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/the-heart-of-the-matter-is-the-matter-of-the-heart#c1

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #98

#118
Great analogy and the bat metaphor is explicit. You wrote that no top exists. Yes, because when we reach a top a new one emerges. I am saying that what we call the fitness peak is not the same as the terrain emerges new ones constantly. What is top today isn't tomorrow.

Harvey Lloyd

منذ 4 سنوات #97

#117
I remember in the school yard we used the bat with each person grabbing the bat just above the other until one could claim the top. This what decided who got to bat first. I see the idea thing as the same except the bat is infinite. Everyone is attempting to get to the top of something that no top exists. Lots of philosophy in the statement that supports the idea of the variations in confirmation bias leads to limiting beliefs that keeps the bat infinite.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #96

#116
:You have tapped into something here as we consider the quick cycles of media and their need for exponentially more ideas". This idea has ingenuity idea dear Harvey Lloyd, I want to add my thoughts. You rightly ended the line by mentioning need for exponentially more ideas" The "ideas rabbit", that comes to my mind. What happens following exponential growth> Going back to the logistic equation- rapid bifurcation of the ideas into two groups doubling to four and again doubling to eight and then soon we are on the edge of chaos. Either ideas rearrange into new structures or go chaotic. Is the society of ideas similar ti human societies? Deep thinking here

Harvey Lloyd

منذ 4 سنوات #95

Since my comments earlier, within this post, a new phenomena has arisen. In observing "ideas" birthing in my recent experiences a curious understanding of "owning and idea" has emerged. This brought me to the thought of what is the purpose and intent of an idea, again. Strangely from a different angle as we observe social media. An idea birthed and shared in social media has a life cycle. To the reader/listener the idea is assumed to be manifest within the giver. This is not necessarily so. Having observed ideas that sole purpose was to be authentic/unique, the idea had very low energy to continue once all social media value had been extracted. A new idea was needed to keep the feeding of the media at high levels. I also recognized, in real life, that ideas tend to shy away from fundamentals and pick the low hanging fruit. By this i mean only that portion of the idea that can grafted into a post is are considered. Lacking fundamentals the idea fades quickly. Keeping cycle times low also posits that outcomes will be low also. You have tapped into something here as we consider the quick cycles of media and their need for exponentially more ideas.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #94

#114
This shall be the topic of my next post my dear Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #93

#113
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Now that last comment made this bee LAUGH Oh dear Professor ... please "disrupt my disorder" I shall fly to you and give you a bee-hug ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #92

#111
Just smiled again and I decided now that my next post shall be on how to disrupt disorder and chaos to order my dear Fay Vietmeier

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #91

#110
Dear Fay Vietmeier You made this bee called me waggle with smiles reading yours "(more comment on this in an upcoming posts ;~)

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #90

#108
Proma \ud83d\udc1d Nautiyal Oh you struck a chord ;~) Proma ! I too have admiration for the ability of our dear Professor to follow-through on producing a buzz once he gets a thought in his brain ;~) Praise is due ;~) from this bee to you ;~) Ali

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #89

#106
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee David Navarro L\u00f3pez First ... it is not a coincidence that you are visiting & commenting here David ... I hope all is well with you & your family Over the last couple days you came into my mind several times ;~) I appreciate your insights here You ask a great question: "if ideas germinate in our minds or hearts or even in both of them" and The question is what are these ideas good for? (more comment on this in an upcoming posts ;~) I like the twist on Shakespeare ~ Thanks to our dear Professor we are connected I'll share that to this be ... your wisdom often reminds me of Harvey Lloyd

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #88

#108
Thank you dear Proma \ud83d\udc1d Nautiyal for your re-sharing the post and for writing a concise comment that summarizes the post and gives it synopsis. may draw your attention to Part 2, which I published two hours ago. I do care for your feedback if you were to find the time to read, https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/germination-of-ideas

Proma Nautiyal

منذ 4 سنوات #87

I agree, Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I have often seen that too many ideas left unattended with the intention to attend them sometime in the future, only results in chaos. The best way to handle that applying the idea immediately and then sit back to see if any more come out of it. It could come to us through conversation, engagement, or even watching or hearing something along the same lines. As human beings we often procrastinate and then we forget. We then fret about the "oh so wonderful" idea we had come across. We hoard ideas and like you so rightly mentioned too much of anything could be an overkill. I really appreciate and find it inspiring that you write your buzzes as soon as you come up with a thought. This is an enriching thing to do. I really wish I could do the same. Sharing this insightful buzz in the LinkedIn beBee Buzz group.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #86

#106
Dear David Navarro L\u00f3pez- it is great to welcome a comment from you after a fairly longtime. I welcome you back and I hope to read a post written by you soon. Your comment is #106 and it is interesting that you even bring a thought that nobody else mentioned earlier. I draw the attention of Fay Vietmeier to your comment for if you are not connected that you become. You wrote that "The ones which percolate to our hearts, find there the needful energy to germinate. In my opinion, hearts are not meant to produce ideas, but feelings. Information supported by feelings allows our minds to produce ideas, or actions, which is basically the same". I must say that your comment encourages me to do soon a research on mind-heart relationship and what recent research findings such as neuroscience tell us. I tend to accept your thinking, but it is because of your comment I am interested in starting this research.

David Navarro López

منذ 4 سنوات #85

To your words "I found myself asking if ideas germinate in our minds or hearts or even in both of them", I would say: In our minds, we store the background for our ideas. The ones which percolate to our hearts, find there the needful energy to germinate. In my opinion, hearts are not meant to produce ideas, but feelings. Information supported by feelings allows our minds to produce ideas, or actions, which is basically the same. Knowing that it is important to take care of what comes into our minds, to avoid it coming to our hearts, and changing us in a way we don´t want to. "for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks" (Lk 6:45) says the most ancient of the books. To "suffer" an overflood of ideas should not be bad. The question is what are these ideas good for. Are these ideas enhancing us/our environment, or enslaving us? To be the owner of ourselves or slave of ourselves: that is the question (sorry, Shakespeare)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #84

#104
Dear Fay Vietmeier Your line "Something that merits “praise” is “praiseworthy” … such thoughts SHOULD fill our heads ;~)" makes me think of the Negativity Bias. When we read a post that we feel negative about it we hurry to make our criticism audible. We fail to praise where praise id due. To praise without reason is bad. But not to praise a good work is discouragement, the least to say. I say you are a spiritual well-spring. You are and you should be proud of it.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #83

#103
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee This is of value: "a sound & logical comment" (the thought occurs to me that such comments flow out of a sound & logical mind ;~) Again: this is important: "praise" should NOT be confused with flattery Something that merits “praise” is “praiseworthy” … such thoughts SHOULD fill our heads ;~) ”Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.” ~ Philippians 4 2) Thank you for making this bee “SMILE” … as you so often do … I very cool with your “Ambassador” qualities & sweet, engaging spirit ... just honest praise for the hours of quality “bee-banter” at the “Well-Spring” café called beBee … which you facilitate ;~) I’ll take 10,000 x 10,000 more 3) If I catch you in "flattery" ... I'll give a subtle bee-wink '~) and you do likewise ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #82

#101
No, I only means your sound and logical comment. There is no comment that you didn't respond to dear Fay Vietmeier

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #81

#100
Oh dear mentor Fay Vietmeier I enjoyed reading your comment and the buzz for a second mentioned in your comment about what your words say about you. I re-shared your post on the Executives and Directors Hive because I believe it is worthy. This is the truth devoid on any flattery. "MANY occasions I have NOT been in agreement with thoughts you set forth or statements you make (granted, marshmallow that I am, I find gentle ways to not agree ;~)- this line of your comment reminded me of a fellow who differed with me and started using harsh words in his replies. We have the right to differ, but not the right to become cynical of others. I do appreciate, as I have always done, our differences because they provide an opportunity for us to learn more than when we are in agreement. I do appreciate your not only thoughts here, but also that you practise what you say. I say it loudly you are a spiritual mentor.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #80

#100
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Which "sound comment" did I not respond to?

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #79

#99
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I appreciate Lada’s honest observation & opinion (by my observation at times this IS true) However, there are rich contributions of thought – these are the “pearls” I seek ;~) I ignore the “fluff” I value Truth highly … I choose to name my business “Aletheia” (Greek for “Truth) My mantra is “seek Truth & speak Truth" I think Ali that you get "praise" (which should NOT be confused with flattery) because of your authentic & thoughtful form of "bee-banter" (my term) … On many occasions this bee has stated: these qualities make you are a great “Ambassador” On MANY occasions I have NOT been in agreement with thoughts you set forth or statements you make (granted, marshmallow that I am, I find gentle ways to not agree ;~) This lack of agreement is true for others bees as well (not all bees are not as "sweet" as you are when I am not agreeing with them ... sadly the response has been “bee-snubbing” … PRIDE is a bitter pill ;~) But the ability to disagree ... without being disagreeable reflects understanding or a desire for understanding (if more people in positions of leadership had this ability the world would have less divisiveness & vitriol) "Human speaking is an art” as I poetically set forth here: “What do your words say about you?” https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/what-do-your-words-say-about-you My hope is always that what I thoughtfully write … people will thoughtfully read & comment ;~) But then we all have experienced that some people are more “thoughtful” than others and this is life ;~) (I’m going to similarly comment @Lada)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #78

#98
Your explanatory comment merits sharing and publicizing dear namita sinha

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #77

namita sinha wrote a very thoughtful comment on LinkedIn that I thought it is worthy of sharing with readers here on beBee Yes, indeed the various paradoxes as listed in this post..,that of "enrichment", of "aplenty", "of the free"...,are increasingly becoming important to consider .. After all, "ideas" form the basis of creation and creativity..: ideas are the ones which once executed make lives better or worse..; ideas bring out talents ,performances and elevate some while pull down others in the popular view ! It's therefore imp to reflect whether an empty silent mind produces better ideas ,or the one constantly bombarded with a whole lot..; ignorance is better or information overload ; tranquility or chaos ..,calm or stress ,alone or in company..; happy or distress..--;and then the paradoxes..😊

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #76

#92
Dear Fay Vietmeier I have just noticed that I didn't reply to your sound comment. First, I thank you for your appreciated re-sharing of this post. I have just been exchanging comments with Lada \ud83c\udfe1 Prkic on her post: BeBee, a Hive for Praise https://www.bebee.com/producer/@lada-prkic/bebee-a-hive-for-praise In her comment #117 she wrote "You mentioned balanced comments/commenters, but what I see a lot are comments with excessive praise and flattery. Forgive me for saying so, but I see it in your comment streams too:. She ended her sound, but critical comment by saying "To paraphrase your words, my level of confidence in such comments is very low. :(" Overly dozes of anything including comments may fire back. I wrote on this. In one post I showed how excessive love leads eventually to obsession and jealousy and desire to control the beloved one and so love breaks up. But I must say here it is the intention that also counts.I trust your intentions dear Fay because you do read ALL comments and you give your sound comments accordingly. I recall that we differed when we had to. One example, is on your chaotic pile of DRAFTS and the need to have them organize. Praise without engagement is flattery and you are a good example of readers who comment mindfully.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #75

#93
Thank you for your support, agreeing and disagreeing and for providing great and relevant quotes Fay Vietmeier.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #74

#91
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I have shared this rich post in "Knowledge Lovers & beBee English I am honored that the "Master-Weaver" appointed our paths to cross

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #73

#91
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee The thought occurs to me Ali that few posts (at least in my short time on beBee) get the HIGH level of engagement that is found here ... and on so MANY of your posts Truly this reflects your Ambassador qualities ;~) this is why I have dubbed you the "best of bees" I think I mentioned in an earlier post that you are the reason I found my way to beBee I have found the communication with other "bees" to be authentic I share every post from beBee on LI but the response is minimal Vs beBee Javier \ud83d\udc1d CR I attribute that to genuine "bee-affection & bee-banter" In my bee-famous DRAFTS is "The Art of Being a Bee & The Fellowship of Bees" (started months ago - then I took another path & other paths ... one result was the post "Be a Blessing Bee") ... with some FOCUS Preston \ud83d\udc1d Vander Ven And ... with some (follow-through) on INTENTIONS Kevin Baker it will get it published ... it now in my "Top 5" I am held to account by the encouragement of a dearest Professor

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #72

#90
My humbling spiritual leader Fay Vietmeier As much as I appreciate your compliments I am equally fascinated by your engagement and actions by contributing several mind-blowing comments and replies. It is engagement like yours that help me find the good seeds to sow. Yes, your reference to Kevin Baker fantastic post is timely. Intentions with no action is procrastination. Yes, Lisa is a great thinker. Unfortunately, I failed to tempt her to join beBee and this explains why her name doesn't highlight.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #71

#89
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Before I forget Ali ~ how fruitful is this post ;~) Rich "germination ;~) I shows that not only are you "the best of bees" but also a good "seed-sower" & farmer 2) Thank for sharing that very insight comment of @Lisa Morganweck 3) this added thought which tied in to a post by Kevin Baker on intentions … some intentions are not “decisions” because they are NOT acted upon (just as some thoughts are not acted upon) For example: She intended to splice all her hairs … but then she never ACTED on her intention (although one could reason she made a decision not to follow-thru on her “intention”)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #70

#87
Not again! My reply to your comment dear Fay Vietmeier just vanished. I said that I loved your reply. I need it for my next post which is still under preparation. My dear spiritual leader- A mi right to say that there is an intent in every action we take? Intent in observing 'Intent in Orienting Intent in Deciding Intent in Acting And whatever action we take.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #69

#87
Dear spiritual mentor Fay Vietmeier Thank you for your reply. I need it for my next post *still far from finished). So, I may see that in every action we take such as Observe and Orient intent is an integral part of it. Do you agree?

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #68

#85
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee My dear Professor ~ What a great question. In my bee-way of thinking “intent” needs to be in EACH: Observe-Orient-Decide-Act Intent: intention of purpose/ resolved or determined/earnest attention

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #67

@Lisa Morganweck made a superb comment on this post on LinkedIn that I decided to copy and paste it on beBee so that more readers will enjoy it. Love the analogy running through your article @Ali Anani, PhD - Focus & conscious balance are necessary to prevent “information overload” which then prevents growth of any kind as the “waters get muddied”. There certainly is a spoiling effect when there is too much of anything. Reminds me of this paradox of advice often handed out in the business world: sometimes you have to step way back and take a look at the bigger picture from 30k feet, yet, the devil is in the details and an elephant can only be eaten one bite at a time. I can also relate to these ideas of yours as an empathic soul. With so much sensory overload at times out in the world we have to step back (and away) at regular intervals to process what we have experienced. Otherwise there is so much coming at you at once (and on many different levels) there’s no time to process anything. It’s like sorting out and making sense of chaos. Experiences and ideas do need proper space and time to germinate in both our hearts and minds. Peace.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #66

#84
You remind me dear Preston \ud83d\udc1d Vander Ven of business loops that contain Action. One of them is the Action Loop consisting of Observe, Orient, Decide, Act is an example. The reason people fail with making use of data is the lack of action. SO, your comment is sound and I do appreciate it. This comment of yours invokes to both dears Harvey Lloyd below. Harvey mentioned intent and then Fay agreed with him. My question to both of them is how intent fits with the action loop mentioned here?

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #65

#82
I am more certain that you are BOTH more than I am sure of myself to be BOTH dear Fay Vietmeier

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #64

#81
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Well then we both ... are BOTH then ;~) "bee-dualism" This is us my dear Professor: "seemingly opposite or contrary forces ... actually may be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world ... how we give rise to each other as we interrelate to one another ;~) "Give rise" ... for you: Windmill of thought ... for me: inspirit /well-spring ... for both: "pearl-seekers"

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #63

#80
Dear Fay Vietmeier My dear Friend- you mentioned butterflies in your comment. You are affected by the Butterfly Effect, in which a small problem causes big delays. The problem with your computer may have deterred you from completing your drafts, but also it gave you more time to ponder on them. When I write a post I collect my thoughts and do my research. When I reach a tipping point that I have done enough and before losing interest because of ideas piling up I write my post. All writes have their tipping points, but it varies among writers. Good luck with your new laptop.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #62

#76
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I have my "top 5" posts that I've been deterred from focusing on ... for MONTHS I have had problems with my laptop that have eaten hours and days of time ... VERY distracting I ordered a new laptop but then must be without my old-troubled laptop to make the transition I have work for Aletheia that has been ignored & postponed because writing is my JOY I have poetry that is almost ready to post I spend prayerful time & pondering time when writing about subjects that are universal & important (well this bee thinks are universal & important) Hours & days fly away like butterflies ;~) If only I could "freeze time" ;~) My next post? I'll try to catch one of those butterflies & then let you know ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #61

#78
My spiritual mentor Fay Vietmeier You wrote at the end "Now I’m not sure if I’m “Yin” or “Yang”". You aren't either because you are BOTH. Why> Because you answered your question "yin and yang is a concept of dualism, describing how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world". Your mind and heart are connected. I don't care which is Yin or Yang. I know you are both. The comments on this post have taken me in various directions. Tonight , the direction of my next post emerged. One point I am going to raise is that if we inspect the strange attractor of complexity as originally discovered by Mandelbrot, looks like dark heart. I am questioning if we live in this complex world with dark hearts if we need to make each her/his light like marine species living in deep oceans. So many ideas are brewing in my mind, but I wanted to share this one with you because you produce your own light with your spirituality.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #60

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee For many years I have been saying: “God is the Master-Weaver” I have learned to be attentive My dearest Professor I have discovered this truth: "iron-sharpens-iron" You are "Iron" You like me ... seek "pearls" of understanding ... for understanding So "yes" ... "It is striking how our perceptions may meet even though they come from different directions." We are like this ALi ;~) … think I mentioned this thought on another post "Yin & Yang" In Ancient Chinese philosophy, yin and yang is a concept of dualism, describing how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world, and how they may give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. (Wikipedia) Now I’m not sure if I’m “Yin” or “Yang”

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #59

#73
Tausif Mundrawala I am a most "attentive bee" ... All the seeing ... we must see Reading with an open heart Discernment is a precious art ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #58

#75
When are you publishing your next post dear Fay Vietmeier?

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #57

#70
Kevin Baker The Irish, The Scots the Welsh, the Iroquois ... The roots of your warrior spirit ;~) "Life is kind to me" ... an honest & humble acknowledgment ;~) "I understand what I understood though right now what I understood is no longer of me to understand." ... This a pondering lass need ponder further ;~)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #56

#67
In my previous response to this comment I ended the comment by making a typo. I wrote "...the seeds of the exchange of comments have seen these deeds flourishing". I wrote deeds instead of seeds. But then a thought of a suggestion for you dear Fay Vietmeier- how .about" deeds and seeds" as a title?

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #55

Kevin Baker I forgot to ask if you found seeds here? https://www.bebee.com/producer/@fay-vietmeier-pennsylvania/moments-frozen-in-time

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #54

#67
I love it "Seeds of Thought" (has been added to my "bee-famous drafts" (I have one for poetry & one for posts ;~) I hope your seeds germinate soon my dear Fay Vietmeier. I look forward to reading both of them. I am so happy that the seeds of the exchange of comments have seen these deeds flourishing.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #53

#66
Your ability to expand on thoughts is striking dear Fay Vietmeier will love it.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #52

#65
It is very late night hours here, but I couldn't stop myself reading your very thoughtful comments dear Fay Vietmeier. Be careful that what you own ... does not own you- what a lovely quote this is! Yes, it fits very well with what I wrote. It is striking how our perceptions may meet even though they come from different directions. Deep and deserving comment of a post by you dear Fay.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #51

#55
Kevin Baker This lass is making her way ... farin well ;~) And you dear lad ... I hope you be swell ;~) Do you reveal Irish roots ? And yes: "Seeds have memory and memory have seeds" this will be used ;~) I love it "Seeds of Thought" (has been added to my "bee-famous drafts" (I have one for poetry & one for posts ;~)

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #50

#61
Tausif Mundrawala How very true & insightful Tausif "Sometimes due to the race of earning a livelihood, we tend to forget our true selves. Privileged are the ones who get to think and act upon it without worrying about the former" Just as "youth is wasted on the young" The though occurs to me that wealth is often wasted on the wealthy (too often the wealthy do not have eyes that see ... for example can just walk by a person begging ... some of the most "privileged" people lack generosity, kindness, creativity ... they are in many ways disconnected for the life around them) And yet there are some with wealth that live very godly lives (but they are a minority in the humble bees opinion ;~) It does feel like a "race" ... being inside a wheel that you can't stop churning One must have discernment to guard your mind & heart ... because the "prince of the world & the god of this age" ... is washing the world with lies ... greed reigns & is a THIEF ... the thief will take & take & take till you you have nothing left to give ... anxiety is produced in the process & peace robbed How one lives with or without wealth or resources is determined by many things (heart-attitude, mindset, character to name a few) Ultimately "Circumstances do not make a man ... they reveal him" I am praying for you my friend that God will appoint you path regarding where to invest yourself

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #49

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I wanted to say this thought is rich with wisdom: "The paradox is that having rich resource may lead to poverty. I call this “The Paradox of the free” as it may slave us." Reminded me of the admonition: Be careful that what you own ... does not own you.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #48

#63
Look forward to reading it dear Tausif Mundrawala

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #47

#61
I recommend that you pen a post on your interesting thought here dear Tausif Mundrawala. It is "Sometimes due to the race of earning a livelihood, we tend to forget our true selves".

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #46

#54
Dear Spiritual mentor Fay Vietmeier- while Goggling I ran across this reference that might interest you. The Dark Side of Being Light It discusses "Shadows are inevitable on the path of spiritual illumination" Here the link: https://upliftconnect.com/being-light/

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #45

#54
#55 Dears Fay Vietmeier- when we store ideas in our minds we are like plants storing sugar for the cold season. When ideas evoke suddenly they release the stored energy. Energy can't be lost and storing it in memory will be released and sometimes abruptly and the memory comes alive. Yes- I believe that when we consume energy in thinking of an idea sooner or later this energy shall be released.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #44

#53
These numbers are based on real findings in the field dear Fay Vietmeier. The 20/80 ratio is a fractal one meaning that of the first 20% good ideas there are 20% the better of the good ones. The best one are the 20% of the remaining 20% and it goes like this. This is scale-free fractal.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #43

#52
Dear Spiritual leader Fay Vietmeier First s first. You asked me " is this your IDEA Ali? Do you mean this literally?". No, it is MIT new research (2017). A previous comment by Kevin Baker made me think of self-glowing ideas. I then Googled and found the self-illuminating leaves idea. I have since then searched this topic extensively and actually absorbed most of my tie. I shall cover my findings in my next post.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #42

#51
Harvey Lloyd- this is a supreme comment and I shall elaborate on in in my next post. Just to play the devil's role as you wrote " Meaning the seed in us that bears the fruit must be planted in others. So we must concern ourselves with their soil and will the seed grow?" How about growing in the leaves and I mean using the leaves as soil? Then we become part of their leaves as we are now part if others' leaves. Interesting! You opened new possibilities for me. The intent mentioned in your delightful comment has also broadened the scope of my next post. Again, I shall highlight what I mean in my next post.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #41

Kevin Baker Learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else. ~ Leonardo DiVinci Yes: "seeds do have memory" MUCH could be said about that ;~) Lovely thought ... worthy of expanding ... perhaps a poem ;~) "As to human thoughts , all energy of any kind from any source organic can spark an intention. a rock can spark a book, a rain drop can produce a series, standing barefoot on the earth can bring the yearning to be understood with life long reach"

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #40

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee 4) "self-glowing" (for trees - GREAT ;~) for people: would seem to lack humility ;~) ... "let someone else praise you and not your own lips" (Proverb) I love the IDEA of "genuine intent" And "out of more than one hundred thousand fungi species only about eighty are self-glowing. Ideas that glow may have the same ratio" This made me think of the "80-20" rule" and the principle that "cream always rises" There is a sure connection between: "the heart is the soil" and IDEAS

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #39

#33
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I had to read several times 1) By injecting a solution of nano-particles (very fine particles) of a naturally glowing chemical such as those found in jellyfish into the veins of the trees these leaves become self-glowing. This way we may have a natural street lights with their glowing leaves acting as street lights. This IS a revolutionary idea ... is this your IDEA Ali? Do you mean this literally? 2) Tausif Mundrawala ... the thought that came to mind is that "necessity is the mother of invention" ... resources do matter but do not allow the lack of them to halt your creative ability ... I firmly believe in tenacity, perseverance & the fiery resolve of the human spirit (and by faith the God can make a way where there does not seem to be a way) and "yes" Tausif I think many things hide within ... even "hiding from themselves" 3) @Harvey Lloyd ... I appreciate what you said "with IDEAS also go intentions" @KevinBaker would appreciate that "the opportunity to find treasure" ... Priceless !! You too are a "pearl-finder" to allow consideration of new new idea ... and then reconsider (here is wisdom) You are a wise man ... and a "brilliant bee" ;~) (part 1)

Harvey Lloyd

منذ 4 سنوات #38

Having a great idea is the first step, The second step is always getting others to join. Meaning the seed in us that bears the fruit must be planted in others. So we must concern ourselves with their soil and will the seed grow? One of the greatest concerns in idea implementation is when we think everyone has our same soil. I call this projecting, a little twist on the original meaning. A seed in me will look for the right fertilizers and sunlight for the seed to grow because i have a vested interest in the outcome. If i project my engineered soil onto the others i will create a fundamental divisiveness unless i plant, fertilize the seed in others. Even then the soil may never become fruitful. You are onto some great thinking as always.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #37

#49
Thanks dear Tausif Mundrawala and I hope you would like it

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #36

#47
To see dear Tausif Mundrawala how close our thinking is then I request you to read my previous post "Hardening Hearts" https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ali-anani/hardening-hearts You shall find yourself why I endorse your comment, which fits on that post as well.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #35

I must thank you dear Tausif Mundrawala for your caring to re-share the post.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #34

#42
Great and again I am addressing this great comment in my next post. Sometimes, we kill a great idea by not showing the good intention behind it, or fail to highlight their potential.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #33

#43
I have been wondering why I haven't seen any activity by you dear Tausif Mundrawala. I am glad to read your comment and see you engaged again. Like I wrote in my response to Harvey Lloyd comment #40 there are millions of ideas,but how many of them are self-glowing to attract attention? I am searching on how to make ideas attractive to have better responses and so that the worthiest ones gets due attention. You are spot on with your analysis why having limited resources can be a bless for some nations. As for people who fear to expose their ideas is it better to keep them in darkness? A question that has no answer in my mind now.

Harvey Lloyd

منذ 4 سنوات #32

#41
Given the context i would say that we have the chance to make an idea glow in our presentation. What others perceive as intent within your presentation will make it glow in their minds or create resistance to glowing. Ideas originate through generalizing unrelated topics into a new thought, that grows into an idea. But can the idea show an intent of service, sustainability and value generation into the listener/reader?

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #31

#40
It was a message from you dear Harvey Lloyd that kept brewing in my mind that sparked the idea of this post. As much as I appreciate your good words towards me, I am equally mentally-challenged by your comment. I paused while reading "I know in my leading, teaching or minimal writing, getting someone to pause and consider a question, i may have introduced or sparked, is the mark it was worth the discussion. Doesn't mean they will answer the same way i would. But they did consider a question they had not considered". What you stated is challenging and I shall address in my next post. I was reading while searching for examples to present in the next post that out of more than one hundred thousand fungi species only about eighty are self-glowing. Ideas that glow may have the same ratio. I am just guessing, but this is consistent with your writing that ideas are abound and I wonder how many of them glow with genuine intent. Are there self-glowing ideas? This is the question that is currently challenging my mind in writing the next post.

Harvey Lloyd

منذ 4 سنوات #30

Ideas do tend to abound in such a media immersed environment. But with ideas also go intentions. When i read ideas i generally look to the intent of the writer. Is the intent searching, self aggrandizing, or serving to name a few large categories. I am drawn to your posts as you offer the opportunity to find treasure along your own journey. Specifically around the natural vs human chemistry. Attempting to be a better human by understanding the natural processes. Sometimes your intellect is soaring above my synaptic capabilities but you always seem to draw the question out of the individual. The questions are great questions for each to seek answers. I know in my leading, teaching or minimal writing, getting someone to pause and consider a question, i may have introduced or sparked, is the mark it was worth the discussion. Doesn't mean they will answer the same way i would. But they did consider a question they had not considered. Your search for wisdom is a challenging one and i enjoy the paths you lay out that make me ask different questions.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #29

#38
Thank you dear Debasish Majumder for commenting and generous re-sharing of the post. Yes, and I enjoyed your perception re-birthing ideas versus burying them alive.

Debasish Majumder

منذ 4 سنوات #28

lovely insight sir Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee! germination as well germicide both are potentially emerge in accordance to the available circumstances. one may help to thrive with new ideas, while other simply help to bury ideas! however interesting buzz indeed sir! enjoyed read and shared. thank you for the buzz.

John Rylance

منذ 4 سنوات #27

#24
I have always seen the Parable as reflecting what it's like to teach, with the children's minds as the soil for my seeds of knowledge. 

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #26

I thank you dear Mohammed Abdul Jawad for your appreciated re-sharing of this post.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #25

#32
Well, just post to writing this post my new idea for writing a post generated from using leaves as soil and self-igniting charcoal to produce self-illuminating leaves.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #24

#31
Your ideas are revolutionary Kevin Baker

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #23

#30
The Heart is the soil. Now, I have another idea my dear super-spiritual Fay Vietmeier. It is on a creative idea that involves using a different kind of soil by expanding the use of tree and plants leaves as soil as well. I don't know what to call this creativity tool. And I have found an example. By injecting a solution of nanoparticles v(very fine particles) of a naturally glowing chemical such as those found in jellyfish into the veins of the trees these leaves become self-glowing. This way we may have a natural street lights with their glowing leaves acting as street lights. This is a revolutionary idea and I am writing a post to describe it. I am happy that our thoughts are in synchronicity even though we didn't plan it or do it for purpose.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #22

#28
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee 1-20-20: Ali~ Truly my dear Professor … you are the “Pearl-finder” “The heart is the soil” …Our hearts are the soil and it is up to us to fill this soil with thorns, rocks, parasitic plants or with "self-illuminating plants” ~ Ali 2) and "Yes" “Something for nothing is fraught with pitfalls & hidden intentions … “search for the hidden ways we pay” From the tiny: … “sign up for a free chance to win” (whatever) … give your contact info & therefore permission to be continually contacted for whatever (intention) In the middle: … theft by one means increased cost to all To the greater: … government “programs that create entitlement, reliance on “programs” and a new form of slavery … in exchange for: Maintain political power 3) True Ali: knowledge (or information) devoid of (Truth) or wisdom … may have hidden bad effects. Case in point: our education system has changed greatly in recent decades because there was a shift in values away from honoring God’s precepts & seeking truth … the result was toward seeking outcomes ... a decline in reason & critical thinking (the Institutions want to be gods & you are to be followers of whatever they preach to you (truth be damned)

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #21

#27
Thank you and I am sure Angelina Souren

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #20

#21
Reading your comment again dear mentor Fay Vietmeier swaps my mind in unthinkable ways. I find lot of -ideas exchange" boiling in my mind. I may at this haste highlight few of them: 1) Just as all “change” is NOT good … NOT all ideas are “good” (and therefore should not be allowed or encouraged to germinate) … discernment is required ;~)- I agree with you in full my friend. I am smiling because the word change reminded me of what I started this reply with about ex-change. Yes, not all seeds are good and so not all ideas seeds are good as well. No question asked. 2) We live in a world where the concept of “free” has great allure- this was exactly my point in referring to free e-books and downloads. Free of pitfalls and hidden intentions- this is not possible in reality for nobody does anything for nothing. We see the nothing cost, but need to search for the hidden things that we pay. 3) We live in an “age of information” … but “information” should never be confused with Truth or Wisdom- in fact, such knowledge devoid of wisdom and effect may have hidden bad effects. Wii surely add more later on.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #19

#22
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee I forgot to mention that the image is beautiful ... & magical @ AngelinaSouren I see the possibilities of the plant in it's unfolding "born & borne" ... the wind "yes" to strengthen ... water & Light to nurture growth and "good soil"

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #18

#24
Just fantastic comment dear Fay Vietmeier to alert him to your comment. I loved so much your thought When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart". Our hearts are the soil and it is up to us to fill this soil with thorns, rocks, parasitic plants or with "self-illuminating plants". I love your mind dear Fay and truly you are a spiritual mentor. Now, I have a new idea for my next post. You ignite my mind and imagination with the parables story. Complex systems as we are and plants are follow simple rules that the outcome is complex. We need good soil, energy, nutrients, water, humidity and fertilizers so that the plants may grow healthily. They component interact and affect each other in unpredictable ways. Not to have a good soil is a sure cause of seeds giving poor and unhealthy plants. SO much to consider in your Part 2 comment my spiritual mentor.

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #17

#23
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #16

Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee 4) We had the exact same thought & insight @JohnRylance The “Parable of the sower” which is also the “Parable of the four soils” Then he (Jesus) told them many things in parables, saying: “A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. Whoever has ears, let them hear.” “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.” Matthew 13 (verses: 1-9 & 18-23) In conclusion: “Be good soil”

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #15

#21
Dear Fay Vietmeier- with all honesty I am moved by your comment because writing of this post filled me with joy that I have never felt before writing almost one thousand posts and presentations (apart from few e-books). That this post made you feel the way you described is again a new source of energetic joy for me. There are so many great points in your Part 1 Comment. It is a very special comment. I shall explain more when I read Part 2 of yours.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #14

#17
Hi Jerry- I have just started searching for self-glowing plants. Only in 2017 MIT researchers found “Plants can self-repair, they have their own energy, and they are already adapted to the outdoor environment,” http://news.mit.edu/2017/engineers-create-nanobionic-plants-that-glow-1213 I believe an igniting idea is born and borne (maybe by the wind).

Fay Vietmeier

منذ 4 سنوات #13

#15
Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee In my time on beBee … in the human-opinion of this humble bee: This is one of your richest post yet my dearest Professor ;~) I say this because it touches on vital organs & vital issues /elaboration of this is germinating in my bee-famous drafts” Special honor to @HarveyLloyd for comment that germinated & grew So many IDEAS springs to mind ;~) “seeds of ideas are living bodies” 1) Just as all “change” is NOT good … NOT all ideas are “good” (and therefore should not be allowed or encouraged to germinate) … discernment is required ;~) Here is Wisdom: “guard your heart … guard your mind” 2) We live in a world where the concept of “free” has great allure … people who LACK awareness ... lack right-thinking have no concept that anything of value comes at a price and is never “free” … such a mindset robs reason & lacks common sense ... ultimately ROBS the one who has such a mindset … This is also like a “Lottery mindset”… instant gratification … instant wealth this is LAZY delusion 3) We live in an “age of information” … but “information” should never be confused with Truth or Wisdom 4) continued...

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #12

#17
Dear Jerry Fletcher mentioned in his comment #16 . Maybe I should search for a modified metaphor of self-glowing plants. Surely, this is a great modification of ideas as seeds of plants. Maybe your idea ignites with mine to generate a new direction. I am deeply pondering on your comment.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #11

#16
But can seeds grow without the other sources than energy Kevin Baker? Surely, energy is vital, but it needs to activate what it takes so that seeds may germinate.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #10

#15
If always possible John Rylance. Seeds may be transported by wind, animal fur, water and other ways to germinate in locations we never thought of. Yes,location is hugely important whenever we may have control over it.

Jerry Fletcher

منذ 4 سنوات #9

Dr. Ali, I came to Savvy's post first and her observations led me to consider how like an ember an idea can be. For me, ideas are not like plants. They are the gift of Prometheus. They can become the roaring blaze of a rocket bound for the other side of space or a simple firework provided for amusement. But each is fiery. That power of being, at once, desired and dangerous is what compels our interest from the tiniest glow to the largest inferno. And so it goes

John Rylance

منذ 4 سنوات #8

I have just been reading Savvy's post and reiterate we need to be wary where we sprinkle our seeds and plant our seedlings as per the Parable of the Sower of seeds.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #7

#9
I do hope that dear Fay Vietmeier and compare their thoughts with this post. I mention Lisa V. for another reason. She is drowned by many DRAFTS of posts and I do hope this post shall not add more ideas for the famous pile of drafts.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #6

#9
I do hope that dear Fay Vietmeier and compare their thoughts with this post. I mention Lisa V. for another reason. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhe is drowned by many DRAFTS of posts and I do hope this post shall not add more ideas for the famous pile of drafts.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #5

#5
Dear Oswaldo Enrique Diaz Delgado A third idea that may interest the readers is your saying that We will be vigilant of the process that dignifies the most beautiful understanding that exists and will exist forever "A pillar over other pillars (DOUBLY, TRIPLE-MIND AND IN ASCENSE SHOULD BE AN INFINITY IF"

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #4

#4
Ideas need to be sown in adjacent minds because they are vital as nutrients. A gem of an idea dear Oswaldo Enrique Diaz Delgado A second thought I like in your comment is where seeds germinate. "Dr. in his simple explanation is made seed within others to have different sources of motivation, at the same time they are cultivated for the vital process, to germinate in several places at the same time, examples; It germinates in the heart (Feelings), it germinates in the mind (Thoughts), it germinates in the soul (Spiritual, Intellectual, Professional Connections)".

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #3

I have just responded to your great poem my gem friend Savvy Raj. I shared your poem in two hives in appreciation of its surmounting beauty. I love your mind and heart.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #2

#2
Angelina Souren- uoi are correct and balance is the missing magical word. We tend to see the surplus as great, but not if we ponder on it. Yes, I chose the image because it "germinates" the concept of the post. I thank you for stopping and commenting.

Ali Anani

منذ 4 سنوات #1

Harvey Lloyd- you are mentioned in this post

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