Innocent Observations
I was looking at images of spiral plants and trees. Suddenly, an observation sparked in front of my eyes. Upon comparing the images of a cauliflower and a spiral tree I observed a difference. The cauliflower grows within visible boundary, whereas the tree has no well-defined boundary. Is the restriction of space that motivates Roman Cauliflower to grow repeatedly in spiral packings?
Trees may grow straight up, spiral to the right or left or alternate between these options? On what basis the spiral tree takes its choice? Is it a forced choice, or a voluntarily one? Cauliflower has choices as well on how to grow, but to a lesser extent than a spiral tree. Is there a hidden purpose for doing this?
I played around with some possible pickings of cauliflower florets. I used this source to try different simulations on how cauliflower packs itself. I changed the turn between growing cells from 0.614 to 0.619. You may notice that these numbers are slight variation from 0.618 (Fibonacci ratio). The results are shown below.
Small variations in the rotation steps lead to hugely varying packing patterns. It is only the Golden Ratio of 0.618 that gives a perfectly packed seeds. You can see that lots of empty spaces are there if slight deviations from the Golden Ratio are allowed. What makes cauliflower observe the simple rule of sticking to 0.618? Is it the attention to the interest of the whole? The answer is yes, for this is a repeated arrangement across time and space. This leads me to the comment that Harvey Lloyd wrote on my previous buzz "...conclude that with or without purpose we will enter the realm of chaos. With purpose we will find what we are looking for, without purpose we will only find helplessness and remain within the chaos".
Harvey Lloyd
The cauliflower found their orderly purpose resulting in an orderly packing. How delicate it is then to "turn" purpose slightly and end up in chaos. Trees are different however as they experience different growing conditions. spiral trees are rare in deep forests and valleys, and are most common on windy ridges. Why then trees change their growth pattern. Spiral growth weakens the overall strength of the tree; however the trees can easier dump off snow this way. Another reason is the transportation of food from the roots to tree branches is easier in a spiral form. The trees sacrifice strength for a purpose. This purpose changes with change in the location of a spiral tree. I find these findings reinforcing the comment written by Ian Weinberg
"Not only is purpose fed from this engagement but it is often borne out of this engagement. Purpose without the courage to engage risks the development of purposelessness. Conversely, aimless engagement also risks the development of purposelessness. And so I would contend that there should be a flexible free-flow of purpose and engagement with 'risky' chaos, so that purpose remains robust".
Ian Weinberg
The spiral tree undergoes risk by losing its strength to allow for the healthy growth of the tree and its survival.
No cauliflower looks the same as other cauliflowers. No spiral tree is an exact copy of another spiral tree. They keep some authenticity, but not on the expense of purposefully serving the overall interests of the tree. Does authenticity have a scale? I mean do we need to think of establishing An Authenticity Scale? Authenticity and the interest may not be in conformity. In these cases the cauliflower and spiral trees tell us that we can stay authentic to a degree so that the general interest of the community may come first.
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Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #22
Sara Jacobovici
منذ 6 سنوات #21
Flattered Cyndi wilkins, for bringing this to my attention and for your added insight. Cyndi, for me, what yous say, "Simply because you can," is such a game changer and perfectly connected with the concept of intent. Who am I to tell someone what to do? All I ask is that we are thoughtful (conscious thought) and not engage reactively or impulsively. Our ability "to do" has to be within a framework of (as Dr. Ali suggests in his comment) responsibility.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #20
Cyndi wilkins o it. Some acts harm the prey and are of no benefit to the predator. Your example of stomping on an ant is an example. Other acts harm both parties. So, the degree of purposelessness aren't of the same scale. Of course, worse is doing an act that harms both parties. We pollute nature and harm the trees and waters, cros, animals, us and all living bodies. What kind of void actions these are!
Cyndi wilkins
منذ 6 سنوات #19
"Despite all the innate design and programming, humans seem to act within an intent. This is one of the dynamic factors that influence the relationship between us and the world we live in." I concur wholeheartedly with this statement Sara Jacobovici...As the landscape of our lives, including our interactions with other forms of life, is in fact a result of our 'focused' intent...So it would seem wise for us all to engage with ALL of nature...plant and animal life alike...with profound reverence and an attitude of equality among all forms of life...Our survival as a species depends on it..So never stomp on an ant...Simply because you can;-)
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #18
Your comment is sheer beauty and is an eye-opener. I love every line of it CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit. In particular "We invest more time in being more conscious of purpose than we do being conscious of our co-existence with nature" . This line opens our minds to the need to be in harmony with nature. Failing to do so will run us into purposelessness whether we are aware of it or not. Nature is a great mentor and to defy it is just wrong.
CityVP Manjit
منذ 6 سنوات #17
Let us imagine that there is such a thing as a "next life". In this next life my life force comes back as a plant. Do I really want to be born with my head stuck in the ground and my genitals flopping outside to the wind? The natural purpose of a plant is devoid of being conscious that it was born in a fixed space and upside down and even if a plant was conscious of this predicament it has no need for Prozac. The relationship between that plant and nature however is much bigger than the relationship human beings have demonstrated by being conscious of purpose. How has being conscious of purpose changed the relationship between people and the planet? We invest more time in being more conscious of purpose than we do being conscious of our co-existence with nature. When our purpose ends up conflicting with nature we call it politics. Plants do engage in a fight for survival but in the context of nature. Plants exhibit an elegant purposelessness in being stuck upside down in the ground with their genitals exposed to bees - so it is I think that the yin-yang between purpose and purposelessness has its elegance. When the word "success" becomes a failure of imagination, we have at that point failed as conscious creatures - for we are then less conscious of nature than a life form that has a planted existence and flops and flows through wind, sun and rain.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #16
Your examples and explanations Tausif Mundrawala are illuminating and to the point. I always enjoy your comments because they have depth in them. Bravo
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #15
Yes, I concur with your point about the inherent bias Ian Weinberg. Whether this was intended or not I am not quite sure. May be the same applies to repelling materials or hydrophobic ones too. So, understanding this bias (or its opposite) and the environment may help us have authentic purposes accordingly. A lot to think about.
Ian Weinberg
منذ 6 سنوات #14
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #13
Time is the unknown is a lovely idea even though they could follow a Fibonacci-timeline. Can we separate time from space? In complex systems- we keep the entity of space and time as a unit. SO, the third dimension could be spacetime as well. I am just thinking loud. Yes, I concur with your last paragraph. It is very unlikely that we would start with the perfect ratio (0.618). Equally important is that we go in small steps for if we proceed with big ones we could easily over jump the identical ratio. It is a learning process through trial and error. What brings us closer to the desired outcome is your "Each force acting in unison now gives us the best opportunity for our start to match the desired finish. Even with this chaos offers us challenges that are unforeseen. However it is easier to meet the challenge as our team becomes a resource and sees the opposing force at the same time". We think we know, but as we know more we find how much more we need to know.
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #12
If i control the beginning or creation of purpose and i know the desired outcome .618. The only other element that is an unknown is time. Inside the human dynamic these three points are our points of interest, specifically within change management. Using time as the unknown becomes the leadership responsibility. Change management is the end/begin of the chaos pattern. Within change management our purpose must be known and generalized before we release the purpose into the chaos. This is not a perfection paradigm, but rather a gathering of all the known forces within your charge and applying them at the same rate/force. Each force acting in unison now gives us the best opportunity for our start to match the desired finish. Even with this chaos offers us challenges that are unforeseen. However it is easier to meet the challenge as our team becomes a resource and sees the opposing force at the same time. I don't foresee any start and projected finish as perfect. But we can start with our best effort in knowing the begin/end. I believe that our initial start is sometimes found to be inefficient. Within the time envelope we continue to learn about the projected finish and alter course. With this i would submit that we start with your .614 and through experience move towards .618 as the purpose develops.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #11
Thank you dear @debasish for your comment and sharing of this buzz. The questions yu raise are similar to mine. I am hoping to better my understanding in the hope of finding some clues to answering these questions. I believe the discussions already warming up shall guide us. I know my purpose- to improve my understanding of this topic. It is not only for my benefit; more it is for the benefit of us all.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #10
My first reaction to your wonderful comment CityVP \ud83d\udc1d Manjit is pausing at your writing "Human design is a very different thing to the golden ration forming naturally". Human bodies are products of the golden ratio. Why our thinking and actions aren't is an issue. We tend to control, and this way limit creativity and the possible emerging of new understandings, discoveries...I find your other line equally intriguing "That is human beings engaged in the design as a form of control and not nature". Therefore, I am getting more curious to read again from your comment "It is the system and environment that we live in that requires from us a sense of purpose, but purposelessness is a form of freedom and what emerges between purpose and purposelessness may be closer to the very order that comes with nature". The question for me now is if plants have a naturally-born purpose and humans don't. A lot to think about.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #9
Harvey Lloyd mentioned in her comment? Yu also wrote "Given our leadership positions we start or create a beginning. Our purpose is efficient direction/effort towards a given goal. Once we release the purpose into the system, as you released the number, choice, forces begin to act on the purpose". The question that comes to my mind- do we envisage the outcome? Like cauliflower arranges in a spiral was it aware of the outcome? Can humans be sure of the outcome in a complex world? Or, is it the trial and error that finds the optimal emerging outcome? In my humble opinion, we need to try hoping for the optimal "packing". So much to ponder on my friend.
CityVP Manjit
منذ 6 سنوات #8
Harvey Lloyd
منذ 6 سنوات #7
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #6
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #5
Thank you Sara Jacobovici and I truly look forward to reading your buzz.
Sara Jacobovici
منذ 6 سنوات #4
I always take your suggestions seriously Ali Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee. I hope to write on this as soon as possible. Thank you for your ongoing support and encouragement.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #3
Sara Jacobovici- your comment is subtle and crosses many boundaries. It has many deep layers of thinking. I wholeheartedly wish if you would write a buzz on the intent issue so that you may cover more ground on this hugely important comment. Your selection of the word intent has depth. You didn't write purpose, for example. I truly hope you expand on this idea.
Ali Anani
منذ 6 سنوات #2
Sara Jacobovici
منذ 6 سنوات #1